Weed Nerd'n In Europe & Beyond!

Hey Guys,

I thought I'd make a little thread for all us European weed nerds out here.

Im based in UK and on my adventures trying to source all the bits for the SS, I found loads of Europeans struggling with what base soils best, where they can buy the amendments etc.

So I thought we could combine all our knowledge and keep it in one place instead of lots of threads!

So if you have any tips for anything TGA/Weed Nerd related just post them in here!

Sub also mentioned the other day that TGA Bagged SS will be hitting Europe, but when is anyone's guess as the demand in the states is big enough alone!
So till then, lets pull our resources together.

and please let's keep this friendly, there's too much shit on this site as there is, were all meant to be working together towards the greater good, so lets just get along!

Ok, so my first thing I will mention is this;

If your struggling to find super soil ingredients there is one company that I believe will deliver worldwide and sell everything for the SS and more, apart from the soil and worm castings!
its called www kelp4less com , now their based in the states so its gonna cost on the postage, I ordered a few things which will last me a couple of years I reckon for 54 bucks all in. I asked for shipping quotes to the UK, they quoted me for upto 4 pounds $19.99 and upto 20 pounds in weight $64.99, which iDon't think is bad. I know for the $65 shipping option, I could order everything for my amended SS list for a good few years! Just email them, they are really helpful!

Ok, so in the UK the only thing that is hard to find is Azomite as its mined in the states, but the site above sells it and its on eBay too, though shipping costs like 5 times the actual azomite does .
Blood meal was the next hardest, but just google 'dried blood' or 'blood fertiliser uk' and a couple shops sell it,I found dried blood on eBay!
Everything else is easy to find with google or on eBay!


Ok, I also noticed some people couldn't find Sucanat. In the UK it's called Rapadura.

Sucanat, Rapadura or raw cane sugar is all the same, it's just the first process in making sugar with nothing removed.


Last thing today is my quest for the perfect base soil as we can't get roots organic in the UK.

For my first batch Im using H&G Bat Special to make my Super soil, I don't cut it with a light mix as its a light mix anyway, but has the guano to assisting flowering.
I use Plagron Growmix for seedlings/clones and vegging till I pot up into my final pots. Plagron say it has 3 weeks of nutrients geared towards vegetive growth, as I pot up with SS a week or two before flowering its perfect.
it comes in two versions, with or without perlite, I can't find the one with so I add about 15% perlite and also 15% EWC.

thats it for now, if u have any tips, plz post!

I'll add a few pics later of my grows with these base soils and also when SS is used, plz feel free to post here too guys!

Weed Nerd UK

I'm from the land of cheese, not the one with Amsterdam nor the one with the chocolate but the one with the wine

About kelp4less i'm planning to order pretty mcuh everything from those guys, except for the batguano (bought guano kalong) and the blood meal, i've made my calculus i come down to about 160 euros included shipping for up to 9 batch (25 batch for humic acid but 4.5 for azomite) with my dosage wich is pretty fair.

Good initiative, let see how many of us are out there!

Thx bud, k I figured out where u are now! U guys are allowed to grow now aren't u, didn't the law change recently so it's kinda decriminalised?

be careful with the kalong guano, I looked into that one And its 3 times stronger than the one sidewing uses, So if u following his recipe put less it, it's like 2-15-2 or something I believe. The one the recipe says use 0-5-0, the one at kelp 4 less is this npk ratio!
i found a 1-10-1 that's fairly cheap off eBay over here and just gonna use that at half strength.

One thing I've noticed is with kelp 4 less is that the pricing isn't set, he quoted me high at first, then I said nah, I can get cheaper and the price dropped, he's very negotiable!

I'm in process of ordering a 20 pound weight order soon, this should give me enough stuff for years and I'm just gonna save time and order everything from them, everything they have is the exact npk ratio of the recipe, so they must be using either happy frog or down to earth products, which is good as atleast it's not real cheap shit!

Have u figured out what soil ur using?

I'm using a mix of different soils, and dont worry i've used a third of the guano kalong, it has a great rep.

We're not alowed to grow over here AT ALL, if you're carefull though you're alright but if you get caught you might get in serious trouble depending on the politician and judges mood...

Ordering the 20 pound is the best way to go, good to know they're "keen to adjust their prices" i might have paid more otherwise

The UK has many farms - there should be some great farm supply stores there. Also try craigslist (do they have that in the UK?) or classifieds and search for compost and worm castings.

Cheers,
Mo

I'm not in the uk our friend is, my country does has a lot of farm as well and i could find worm casting in the suburb of my city but i would need a car to carry around the multiple bags. I cant be walking around with four of my friends with a bag or two of worm casting into my appartment building, trying to keep it low profile, even coming back from the grow shop with two 50 liters bags of soil in my bag is bulky as hell and it's never a good thing to get noticed.

I'll figure a way though, maybe do my own at some point, but i figure doing what i do right now is better than nothing, and it'll be all about adjusting and making things work for me.
I'm ordering what's missing in today or tomorrow, going from pouring advance nutrients to a batmix with minimum additive as possible already upgraded my bud tremendously. My "unfinished" supersoil will take it an other notch towards Dank. Rome wasnt build in a day

Peace!

Mohican said:

The UK has many farms - there should be some great farm supply stores there. Also try craigslist (do they have that in the UK?) or classifieds and search for compost and worm castings.

Cheers,
Mo

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hey bud, trust me, I live in the supposed farmy type of area, I was expecting to goto one of the big garden centres or even local nurseries , not bandq or homebase, one that specialises in plants, and get everything and they didn't sell shit, couldn't even buy organic fertilisers, they had bone meal but with shit added.
i was expecting to be ale to find local worm castings, but no, I was amazed, lol, the selections of composts/soils is a joke too, nothing has any ingredients on the bag.

so ebaying and google was my friend, lol. I wanted to support some local businesses but nope!

i dream of the organic stores u guys have over in the states, was seriously contemplating ordering a pallet of roots, addmendments and shit to last me a few years, but sub posted that the TGA soil will be global, and ive found a good base mix now so I'm happy.

Thx for popping by Sub too!

You guys in the US have no idea how much easier it is to get acces to shit, being one of the first producer and having the largest import you guys got EVERYTHING one can buy. I'm not saying it makes you happy, but it does come handy when you want to mix super soil in your living room hehe

Peace!

Do you live in a city? Just dig up some nice moldy black leaves and dirt and bring it home a little at a time. Should be great - nature makes the best soil

hi there, fellow weed nerd from uk here
i use bio bizz all MIX for my base soil,
i havent had a chance to use a properly amended ss mix yet, as the first mix i made all the amounts were way out (ill put some pics of my first grow in my bodged ss)

heres a recipe i have cooking at the moment

50l bio bizz all mix
2kg ewc
425g fish blood&bone
283g bat guano
170g rock phosphate
1.5 tblsp epsom salt
2tblsp dolomite lime
1 tsp per 2 inch of pot azomite
3/4 tblsp humic acid
300g kelp meal
150g oyster shell
20l coco coir horti grade
100g ssp (single super phosphate)
200g potash

ALL SOURCED from ebay or google searched.

cant wait to see how this mix works with the TGA gear i have
i am currently using the botched mix for my second run (only my second attempt at growing), and shes going a lot better this time round but still showing some burn on lower leaves.

peace from the uk RIU enjoy the pics il load um up seperate thanks for starting this thread trichb

bailwah

first attempt in botched ss mix clawed yellowing generally unhappy

same ss mix, after that plant was done i removed its roots, and replanted my next seed no amendments added, it was the same soil that i had just used.

looking a lot better and happier in veg just a bit of burn on the bottom leaves

maybe the ones with the burn were put in to ss too soon at that stage they should probably been in just your base imo

yeah youre probs right tbh mate very little exp it was a 50/50 mix base to ss so maybe hit ss mix too soon. fair point

Hey roor8911 thanks for posting in here, hopefully we can make this a good thread!

Yeah, I was gonna say the same bud, should try using light mix to start the seeds off, say in a cup, then a about a week or two pot up into straight all mix in a bigger pot, then a couple weeks before flowering, pot up into final pot with SS.
you'll also find that if you pot p straight away in SS u may find it running out of steam early on.

Bio Bizz all mix on its own would have been to hot for the seedlings on its own, if you can only get BioBizz soil, I would make up the SS with a 50/50 mix of light/all mix and follow guideline above, though just adjust to your size pots or final plant size.

Another tip bud, if u only have all mix to start the seeds in, fill your small seedling pot with soil and pour a lot of water through the soil, it will flush nutes out and as seedlings don't really need anything it won't matter if it flushes most of nutes out.
if ya need any advice bud, just post em here and someone should be ale to help.

Here's my SS soil recipe which has been raped from a few online sources, biggest thanks go to SUB & Sidewing!

When I first started getting int soils I Had absolutely no idea what was what, I urge everyone to go out and read 'Teaming With Microbes' it's probably the only book you will ever need to read to do with the soil web and organics, forget The Rev's TLO & 'spiking' methods etc, as these are all gimmicks, some of the people that write these growing books would lead u to believe cannabis is like no other plant and needs it own book, whereas in fact growing cannabis is very similar to growing tomatoes, and many of the tricks tomato growers use can be implemented into cannabis.

ok, so here's m recipe that's cooking now, this recipe is for one bag of soil so just double or amend for your required amount!

Base Soil - H&G Bat Special 50 litre
5-10 litres of High Quality EWC (I personally would try and source locally rather than biobizz or Plagron version)500g of Rice Husks/hulls
250g of Bone meal 3.5-17-0
250g of Blood meal 12-0-0
125g of Bat Guano 1-10-1
80g of PotassiumSulphate
120g of Azomite
60g of Sea Kelp 1-0-2
40g of Dolomitic Lime (must be dolomite lime, not garden lime)
30g of Alfalfa Meal
12g of Humic Acid powder5g of Epsoms



I mix everything up and add Myco at potting up stage, as far as I've read it's pointless putting the myco in the soil before it cooks as they need roots to attach themselves, also the cooking period may be detrimental to them so I put them in a pot up.
Don't buy myco from a nute company, great white sharkis like $400 a kilo or some bullshit, on eBay I get 800g for around £40ish, you can get a lot cheaper, but the one I use has everything, about 20 dif species of ecto and endo, 5 or so trichoderma and about 10 of bene bacteria in massive spores per gram ratios, its called mycomax or something, their the only English company on eBay and sell 3 or 4 types, if ur strapped for cash the normal ones will work.


I don't put a set amount in, but I do put quite a it in each pot, then mix up with the soil before I put plant it, and also put on root base.


I start adding enzymes once a week from week 2 of veg and up until a few week before chop.
I add suckanat/rapadura once in veg about week 3 ish as by then the my co should be working. I then feed once a week during flower, stopping a few weeks before harvest, people say u can't taste it but u can, it's to a bad flavor but I want the natural cannabis flavours.

Great post trichomebob!

I've sended several e-mail to kelp 4 less. If those guys have great products their customer service sucks balls haha. I'm waiting for them to le me know how i could proceed with my order as the "France" button would not work...

You're gonna tell me "why the fuck didnt you used e-bay", well their webs ite is easier to navigate but i might end up doing just that if i dont get news from them. Also some of their fees seems arbitrary. The shippings fees got higher while product prices went down...kind of weird, just hope everything works well

How much myco do you put on top, a teaspoon? Half a tea spoon?

Out of topic: you said you were dissapointed by all the cheese crosses you grew when comparing them to the original cheese. What was the one that got the closest to you? I'm about to cut an exodus kush from dna and altough it smells/looks great it doesnt smell like original cheese to me...
Peace!