Voting Against Prop 19 means :

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fdd2blk

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Gotta start somewhere ....

Did you vote for Prop 215? Was it perfect? Or were you one of those people who said "I can't vote for this, too many loopholes and poor writing, I'll wait until something better comes around" Sound familiar?

And exactly what's wrong with not smoking while a kid is present? I don't approve of exposing children to second hand marijuana smoke either. Prop 19 says NOTHING about it being illegal to smoke marijuana on the PREMISES of a place that children are located.
You simply can not smoke in front of a child.
um, prop 215 wasn't poorly written. ;)
 

medicalsb420

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tc- you little fucking peon! nobody is against progression in the movement. THIS BILL IS BULLSHIT! this is NOT the bill for our culture. You are blinded by the shine of what is being called "legalization." you have no sense of defending whats been made of this culture- probably because you have next to nothing to do with the advancements that have been made. I am in fact acting on my patriotic sentiments of not taking shit. this bill is profiteer bullshit, that will CRIPPLE the medical movement we have worked so hard to make feasible. this bill needs to be thrown in the fucking trash.
 

medicalsb420

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You're giving up your freedom to smoke marijuana because you have the freedom to do so for any number of reasons in order to gain the security of Prop 215. (Even though they are two ENTIRELY different bills).

Hiding behind Prop 215 might seem like a great ride right now. But wait until they tighten government control on it. (Already starting to happen) It wont be long before you have to get your recommendation from a state certified medical facility and THEY'LL tell you where you can get your marijuana.
YOU PURPLE LITTLE ASSHOLE! what you describe is 19!
 

veggiegardener

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Gotta start somewhere ....

Did you vote for Prop 215? Was it perfect? Or were you one of those people who said "I can't vote for this, too many loopholes and poor writing, I'll wait until something better comes around" Sound familiar?

And exactly what's wrong with not smoking while a kid is present? I don't approve of exposing children to second hand marijuana smoke either. Prop 19 says NOTHING about it being illegal to smoke marijuana on the same PREMISES of a child. You simply can not smoke in front of a child.
So your kid is pissed because you confiscated his Ipod and mentions to his teacher that you smoked in front of him?

Ooops!

Now the cops have come over, and discovered your plants cover 25.5 sq. ft!

And you suggest we just break the law, but keep quiet?

I think you're going to have a lot of problems if 19 passes.
 

tc1

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So your kid is pissed because you confiscated his Ipod and mentions to his teacher that you smoked in front of him?

Ooops!

Now the cops have come over, and discovered your plants cover 25.5 sq. ft!

And you suggest we just break the law, but keep quiet?

I think you're going to have a lot of problems if 19 passes.
You smoked in front of your child ... you broke the law.

You grew more than the designated 25 square foot ... you broke the law.


I'm not encouraging either of those two things. Hence ... "the possession, sale, and cultivation for responsible adults". You have the opportunity to legalize .. YES legalize (deal with it) ....

And you're huffing and puffing because you cant expose kids to second hand marijuana smoke or exceed 25sft? Really?
 

medicalsb420

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desperate? no, i'm fine. i'll be fine no matter what happens in nov. however i do hope all the people 19 does affect financially come to your house first. marijuana has been a medicine for 5000 years dick.
 

tc1

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"I want marijuana to just be legal ... no regulation ... no taxes ... just free the weed man" = Another 70 years of prohibition.
 

TokinPodPilot

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Desperate are we?


No ... legalizing the possession, sale, and cultivation of marijuana for EVERYONE is not the same as classifying marijuana as medicine and treating it as such.
Once again, possession and cultivation for personal consumption are not illegal. Only sales are. Cannabis has been medicine for thousands of years. Seriously, if your argument is that you don't want to have to call it medicine, then that's just kind of sad. At least our objections to the clauses regarding the presence of children and garden limits are reasonable due to the fact that the language of the bill is ambiguous. Just because you can't be arsed to stand up for your rights is no reason to vote in blanket policy legislation that can have very disastrous results in many unpredictable ways.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
http://www.steephilllab.com/industryreport/sept-oct-2010.pdf

Here goes Steep Hill Lab's report, They cover some of the possible affects of Prop on 19 on medical Cannabis.

"1- Shrinking of doctors’ sector. It seems feasible that if patients can get their cannabis without a doctor’s recommendation, they will do so.

2- Reduction of cannabis price overall. While this seems inevitable, Prop. 19 passing or not, the passing could speed up the process. Low income patients who cannot afford recommendations would be able to utilize local dispensaries. The increased demand would be met with increased supply and increased competition from dispensaries. This is a recipe for lower prices on the retail side.

3- Increased effort from outdoor growers to market their products. Outdoor cannabis is far cheaper to produce than indoor. With more price declines, outdoor cannabis becomes more competitive. Technological advances in outdoor growing are already closing the gap between indoor and high- end outdoor quality cannabis. With marketing, consumers may begin to migrate back to outdoor cannabis.

4- Expansion of capital investment from other industries. Investors are waiting for legalization. Hundreds of millions of dollars will flow into the industry over the next five years." Big up the researchers! Some really interesting ideas here, like the outdoor gaining in popularity. GO STEEP HILL LAB!
 

tc1

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desperate? no, i'm fine. i'll be fine no matter what happens in nov. however i do hope all the people 19 does affect financially come to your house first. marijuana has been a medicine for 5000 years dick.

Yeah ... but it hasn't been regulated by the FDA for 5000 years ... Which is EXACTLY what will happen ONCE enough states pass medical laws and the federal government caves.

Then we're looking at a state of permanent medicalization and an even MORE uphill battle towards legalization.
Then you and every other medical marijuana patient will be told if you're sick enough and/or where you have to buy your medicine.


If you think the wild wild west medical marijuana programs are going to last forever ... you've got another thing coming. The government will eventually say "You want it as medicine? Fine ... we're going to treat it like medicine".
 

Cali.Grown>408

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u aint nobody either. stop talking like yous know someten. ur opinions are JUST ur opinions. u dont know what ur talking bout either.


LMFAO
LMAO u cant even spell something fool and everybodys opinions are JUST there opinions lol..IDIOT and i know for a fact i know what im talking about and u just admitted u dont know what ur talking about..u said and i quote "u dont know what ur talking bout either" lol
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
LMAO u cant even spell something fool and everybodys opinions are JUST there opinions lol..IDIOT and i know for a fact i know what im talking about and u just admitted u dont know what ur talking about..u said and i quote "u dont know what ur talking bout either" lol
Uh... enough guys. It is entertaining, but: Back to PROP 19. YES/NO WHY?
 

tc1

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Once again, possession and cultivation for personal consumption are not illegal. Only sales are. Cannabis has been medicine for thousands of years. Seriously, if your argument is that you don't want to have to call it medicine, then that's just kind of sad. At least our objections to the clauses regarding the presence of children and garden limits are reasonable due to the fact that the language of the bill is ambiguous. Just because you can't be arsed to stand up for your rights is no reason to vote in blanket policy legislation that can have very disastrous results in many unpredictable ways.
Why do you insist on pretending like I don't believe in Medical Marijuana? I absolutely do ... so let's get that out of the way.

My argument is that ANYONE should be able to use marijuana ... a substance safer than alcohol. It shouldn't matter WHY you need it. The only thing that should matter is that it's your RIGHT to use it.

Several years ago I witnessed a family member struggle with cancer before he passed away. I grew marijuana for him to ease the pain. Don't sit here and tell me I don't believe in medical marijuana.
 

tc1

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LMAO u cant even spell something fool and everybodys opinions are JUST there opinions lol..IDIOT and i know for a fact i know what im talking about and u just admitted u dont know what ur talking about..u said and i quote "u dont know what ur talking bout either" lol

You have smoked yourself retarded.

Never thought it was possible ... But indeed it clearly is.
 
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