Vote NO !! and here is why!!

Mindmelted said:

See that is the problem,why fake a illness to get smoke.
That is what they are using against us now is the people just want to smoke.
People just getting a card to smoke is ruining it for the legite medical users.
Not just a bunch of fuckers who want to smoke and not worry.
Like i said most of the med users a really selfish fuckheads.

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how is it "ruining it"? there are more and more med smokings/card holders every year. nothing is being ruined. you made that up with nothing to back it. same old parroted phrases with nothing to back them.

and once again, i don't want to be on the team that insults people to gain votes.

But they are really not legitimate med users and you know it.
You guys want it all your way or nobody else matters.
And all the selfish ones that sell and are worried it cuts into there biz..

Mindmelted said:

And who the hell is going to check to make sure you are not smoking where a kid can see you..Please answer that question.

Scare Tactics....

All you meds users are really selfish..Period!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Your ignorant of what the Government is trying to do, they say they are on our side but they never where they are always on the side with more money. The government just realized we have more money then tobacco right now. And they just break into a sprint to where they make loopholes they can use to turn a huge profit out of our loss of liberties

And you are a selfish fool...

Mindmelted said:

But they are really not legitimate med users and you know it.
You guys want it all your way or nobody else matters.
And all the selfish ones that sell and are worried it cuts into there biz..

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you are making stuff up. prop 215 CLEARLY states "any and all medical conditions". whether it be brain cancer or a hang nail. that is how it was written and it was written that way on purpose. it's up to the DR to decide, not you.

if this bill were to pass there would be a higher demand for weed. the market would blow-up. i would be able to cash in, especially as a medical grower who has the right to grow a lot more than your one ounce LIMIT. so tell me why i'm against it again.

add some more insults, it's really helping your cause.

You folks go ahead and shoot oyurself in the foot.
It will a long time before it is back on the table again.

Mindmelted said:

And you are a selfish fool...

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did you read this? it's not about helping people smoke pot, it's ONLY about money.


full article =====> http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Oakland-Pot-Growers-Dont-Wal-Mart-Our-Weed-98703224.html

After weathering the fear of federal prosecution and competition from drug cartels, California's medical marijuana growers see a new threat to their tenuous existence: the "Wal-Marting" of weed.
The Oakland City Council on Tuesday will look at licensing four production plants where pot would be grown, packaged and processed into items ranging from baked goods to body oil. Winning applicants would have to pay $211,000 in annual permit fees, carry $2 million worth of liability insurance and be prepared to devote up to 8 percent of gross sales to taxes.
The move, and fledgling efforts in other California cities to sanction cannabis cultivation for the first time, has some marijuana advocates worried that regulations intended to bring order to the outlaw industry and new revenues to cash-strapped local governments could drive small "mom and pop" growers out of business. They complain that industrial-scale gardens would harm the environment, reduce quality and leave consumers with fewer strains from which to choose.
"Nobody wants to see the McDonald's-ization of cannabis," Dan Scully, one of the 400 "patient-growers" who supply Oakland's largest retail medical marijuana dispensary, Harborside Health Center, grumbled after a City Council committee gave the blueprint preliminary approval last week. "I would compare it to how a small business feels about shutting down its business and going to work at Wal-Mart. Who would be attracted to that?" ..........................

Mindmelted said:

You folks go ahead and shoot oyurself in the foot.
It will a long time before it is back on the table again.

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how long and where do you get THIS info?

you are pulling stuff out of thin air as you predict the future.

don't you already smoke and grow?

All about you guys making money and not the gov.
So let me get this staright as long as you can continue to make money but not the gov you are fine and dandy right.

So typical...

Yes i do and accept all the risks and penalties that go along with it.Thanks

Been busted twice no biggie either...

Mindmelted said:

All about you guys making money and not the gov.
So let me get this staright as long as you can continue to make money but not the gov you are fine and dandy right.

So typical...

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i clearly said if it passes i would make MORE money. i am voting NO.

are you getting any of this? you seem so wound up that you can't even focus.

http://stickam.com/normlshowlive

They are literally talking about it right now.

John Doopey said:

http://stickam.com/normlshowlive

They are literally talking about it right now.

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they have NO clue what they are talking about and that dude is rather rude.

He is currently explaining that "you can keep the results of your 5x5 ahrvest and it does not se t a liit on that. so your 5x5 garden,, you grow 1lb, 2lb, you can keep that in your house."

he also mentions that thinking along the lines of the lessser of two evils is still evil being a childs rational.

So what're peoples thoughts on that? If correct i don't understand where your beef stands fdd.

tip top toker said:

He is currently explaining that "you can keep the results of your 5x5 ahrvest and it does not se t a liit on that. so your 5x5 garden,, you grow 1lb, 2lb, you can keep that in your house."

he also mentions that thinking along the lines of the lessser of two evils is still evil being a childs rational.

So what're peoples thoughts on that? If correct i don't understand where your beef stands fdd.

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you are only allowed to "posses and process" ONE OUNCE. where everyone is coming up with this unlimited in my 5 X 5 space i am clueless to.

possession of an ounce is possession of an ounce. the judge will see it NO other way.

right here in RED, ......


Section 3: Lawful Activities
Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Division 10 of the Health and Safety Code, commencing with section 11300 is added to read:
Section 11300: Personal Regulation and Controls
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it is lawful and shall not be a public offense under California law for any person 21 years of age or older to:
(i) Personally possess, process, share, or transport not more than one ounce of cannabis, solely for that individual’s personal consumption, and not for sale.


don't know where you all are getting your info.

i think this is the reason people are countering the 1 ounce claim.

(iv) In determining whether an amount of cannabis is or is not in excess of the amounts permitted by this Act, the following shall apply:
(a) only the active amount of the cannabis in an edible cannabis product shall be included;
(b) living and harvested cannabis plants shall be assessed by square footage, not by weight in determining the amounts set forth in section 11300(a);

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as fa as i read that, it means that so long as it is in your house, you can have as much as can fit inside your 5x5 area

Mindmelted said:

Been busted twice no biggie either...

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NOW who is the fool?

tip top toker said:

i think this is the reason people are countering the 1 ounce claim.

as fa as i read that, it means that so long as it is in your house, you can have as much as can fit inside your 5x5 area

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that means wet and/or drying plants. once it's dry it becomes part of the one ounce limit. what they are addressing here is garden weight. they don't want cops counting your leaves and stems as weight. it does NOT mean as many pounds as you can pack into your closet.

it will be cops and judges who are interpreting these restrictions. good luck getting them to see it YOUR way.

fdd2blk said:

right here in RED, ......


Section 3: Lawful Activities
Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Division 10 of the Health and Safety Code, commencing with section 11300 is added to read:
Section 11300: Personal Regulation and Controls
(a) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, it is lawful and shall not be a public offense under California law for any person 21 years of age or older to:
(i) Personally possess, process, share, or transport not more than one ounce of cannabis, solely for that individual’s personal consumption, and not for sale.


don't know where you all are getting your info.

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quoted again for those who missed it.