Using rockwool cubes the right way.

smartguy345

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OK I know about the health risk, which are similar to abestos which can be found in older homes.

As well as soaking in ph balanced water before it goes into a hydroponics system.


My question is, does the little plastic wrap around the cube have to be removed?

Because i placed it in with the grow rocks already, and I dont want to disturb the plant which could result in any unwanted brusing, or worst killing. There pretty snug with the grow rocks.

Here is my grow journal, which is my first dwc. Critque me all you want, as I can use all the feedback I can get.

https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/248131-my-first-dwc-grow-w.html
 
rockwool and asbestos are NOT the same. Rockwool is made of spun rock, a process that makes it safe. Asbestos is a naturally occurring silicate mineral with long, thin fibrous crystals.

The same shit also known as "Roxul Insulation"... made by the same company too I believe, and is currently being used as insulation and soundproofing in new homes and retro fit work.

and to answer you're other question.. leave it, it'll be ok.. the roots will hit the sides and grow down, like in pots.

The soaking is to disolve the glue shit out of them.
 
I know they are not the same, but they carry the same health risk. which was what I was trying to explain.

Thanks for the info
 
NO - they don't carry the same health risk.. that's what I was saying... just because asbestos and rockwool are both "rocks" they are like comparing salt to sodium hypochlorite.. both are "salt" in terms they are based off an Na ion.. but one will burn your skin, the other you put on your french fries. One is made of.. well asbestos - and it's the fibers from that which break loose and float in the air. Rockwool is spun balsalt rock.. http://www.reade.com/Products/Minerals_and_Ores/basalt.html .. and harmless.

I appreciate you "thanking" me for the info.. but research it before you give me the - "ya, that's not right, you don't know what I'm talking about.. but thanks" thing please. I've recently wasted too much time trying to explain the physics of light and how lumens don't add - to a moron running around neg posting people.(not calling you a moron.. calling him one) to really get much more in depth at this point than to say again.. you are fine.. they aren't the same.. they don't have the same health .. anything.

screw it.. I'm bored..

They risk in asbetos is when it's moved, the silica fibre in the insulation comes loose and can eaily be inhaled causing damage to your lungs.(It's been linked to cancer. It hasn't been used much since the 80's, and importing it I believe is banned on all except one form (White).

Rockwool insulation doesn't do this..it's not the same thing at all - it is currently used in new home construction.. the reason they are taking asbestos out is it's a health risk.. the reason current building codes allow (and most reno guys suggest) rockwool is because it's safe to use and doesn't do that.

here's link to info from health Canada site all about asbestos...

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/environ/asbestos-amiante-eng.php

sorry.. they didn't have anything on rockwool.


I did find this.. I mean it was done by an engineer.. so take it with a grain of salt.. I mean what does a guy who drives a train know about insulation?
http://www.forcetechnology.com/NR/rdonlyres/9577C118-4C4F-4A85-9723-FDB831DACE69/1213/28611en.pdf

I even got this.. I will post the sentence that stands out in my read on it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_wool

"In contrast, the more commonly used vitreous fibre wools including insulation glass wool, rock (stone) wool and slag wool are considered "not classifiable as to carcinogenicity in humans" (Group 3).
High bio soluble fibres (HT-fibres) are produced that do not cause damage to the human cell."

So now, I'll go have a smoke, and you can rest assured knowing that I do know what you were asking.. and we now know what I told you was right.

EDIT: And I did answer your ? too..

"and to answer you're other question.. leave it, it'll be ok.. the roots will hit the sides and grow down, like in pots.

The soaking is to disolve the glue shit out of them. ":peace:
 
On asbestos, o got fully covered in the shite and breathed a hell of a lot in the other day by accident. AM I gonna die?



NO - they don't carry the same health risk.. that's what I was saying... just because asbestos and rockwool are both "rocks" they are like comparing salt to sodium hypochlorite.. both are "salt" in terms they are based off an Na ion.. but one will burn your skin, the other you put on your french fries. One is made of.. well asbestos - and it's the fibers from that which break loose and float in the air. Rockwool is spun balsalt rock.. http://www.reade.com/Products/Minerals_and_Ores/basalt.html .. and harmless.

I appreciate you "thanking" me for the info.. but research it before you give me the - "ya, that's not right, you don't know what I'm talking about.. but thanks" thing please. I've recently wasted too much time trying to explain the physics of light and how lumens don't add - to a moron running around neg posting people.(not calling you a moron.. calling him one) to really get much more in depth at this point than to say again.. you are fine.. they aren't the same.. they don't have the same health .. anything.

screw it.. I'm bored..

They risk in asbetos is when it's moved, the silica fibre in the insulation comes loose and can eaily be inhaled causing damage to your lungs.(It's been linked to cancer. It hasn't been used much since the 80's, and importing it I believe is banned on all except one form (White).

Rockwool insulation doesn't do this..it's not the same thing at all - it is currently used in new home construction.. the reason they are taking asbestos out is it's a health risk.. the reason current building codes allow (and most reno guys suggest) rockwool is because it's safe to use and doesn't do that.

here's link to info from health Canada site all about asbestos...

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/environ/asbestos-amiante-eng.php

sorry.. they didn't have anything on rockwool.


I did find this.. I mean it was done by an engineer.. so take it with a grain of salt.. I mean what does a guy who drives a train know about insulation?
http://www.forcetechnology.com/NR/rdonlyres/9577C118-4C4F-4A85-9723-FDB831DACE69/1213/28611en.pdf

I even got this.. I will post the sentence that stands out in my read on it...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_wool

"In contrast, the more commonly used vitreous fibre wools including insulation glass wool, rock (stone) wool and slag wool are considered "not classifiable as to carcinogenicity in humans" (Group 3).
High bio soluble fibres (HT-fibres) are produced that do not cause damage to the human cell."

So now, I'll go have a smoke, and you can rest assured knowing that I do know what you were asking.. and we now know what I told you was right.

EDIT: And I did answer your ? too..

"and to answer you're other question.. leave it, it'll be ok.. the roots will hit the sides and grow down, like in pots.

The soaking is to disolve the glue shit out of them. ":peace:
 
I have grown plants with the wrap on and off and too be honest i think it realy does not make that much differance if you are growing in a hydro set up.I used a nft hydro system when i first started and i think it helped keep the plant more stable and the cubes more compact.If you are starting plants of in cubes and moveing them to bigger cubes like i do then once they reach the size i want to flower i always remove the outer coating before putting the rockwool cube in soil.The reason that i like to get my clones up to flowering in a hydro system is realy speed but i like to grow in soil.The same yeild can be gained if the plants are grown in big tubs for the roots to spread.But it is realy a matter of choice.
 
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