USA Embassy opens in Jerusalem tomorrow

How many unarmed Palestinian protesters will die tommorrow?

  • None

    Votes: 1 5.9%

  • Fewer than 5

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • More than 5

    Votes: 16 94.1%
  • Total voters
    17
Fogdog

Fogdog

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gwheels said:
It is not one. It is a race of people that hate the Israel Jews. And they have been around since BC as well. It might not fit in the liberal idea of how things went down but it did happen. The hatred will never end. The Arab and Jew have a history that goes back to Abraham.

And I am back to other posts that have to do with growing.

And who cares what Bernie Sanders thinks anyway? Trump is going to win in 2020. It might take a lot of Russian intervention but it worked the last time.
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A race -- by that you mean people who share a similar physical trait -- "hate the Israel Jews". Since "two thousand years this race has been hating Jews".

There is no evidence to justify your belief. Evidence to the contrary does exist. Genetic studies show Palestinians are descendants of Jews. Historical records show that 400 years ago the Egyptian ruler of the region forcibly converted people in the region -- Aramaic Jews and Christians (most of whom cleared out instead of converting) to Islam. What you say is factually nonsense. I make no mistake in thinking that what I just said will convince you. I stand in awe of your invincible and utter ignorance.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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NaturalFarmer said:
Yeah I am stupid, first thing I would think of when reading my threads brah. When you come up with something a bit more damaging, have at it and unignore. Weak sauce brah Why would I care if you ignored me?
What a leftist answer to lifes ups and downs. Ignore function. Ha. Online version of sticking your head in the fucking sand. Had I been talkng to you at all, I could see it but wow you leftist write the script yourself.
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Yes, you are stupid.

And bigoted.

And racist.

And an apology for war crimes and human rights abusers.

No one should take anything you say seriously.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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NaturalFarmer said:
How many times was a peace deal rejected which included a two state solution? Five times was it? Yeah they want peace.
1936 (Rejected)
1947 (Rejected)
1967 (Rejected)
2000 (Rejected)
2008 (Rejected)
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Yes. Israel has rejected peace every one of those times.

It helps if you actually read history.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Andrewk420 said:
Only a colonial right wing idiot could draw the conclusion that "welp, the US says Israel is Isreal, so now all those people that were forced from their home are the bad guys".



I got back from my yearly trip to Oklahoma to visit Osage Nation about a month ago. Listening to stories from the late 18th century and early 19th before the Osage Treaty (not that it got much better for those who stayed after that), it really helped form my opinion more on the conflict in Israel.

I used to not think much about it and just went with the "yeah, that's perpetual war land" lazy idea. But you can't just exterminate a people from their native land and not expect blood to be shed.
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You should read up on what happened to the Osage when they discovered and developed oil on their lands. Straight chilling.
 
Andrewk420

Andrewk420

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ttystikk said:
You should read up on what happened to the Osage when they discovered and developed oil on their lands. Straight chilling.
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I'm pretty familiar with it. There is still some fucked up shit that goes on in regards to headrights. There's one lawyer from a different nation that buys percentages of headrights for lump sum payments. It's said that he gets the equivalent of 10 individual's.

I'm a member of Osage Nation. I don't own any headrights, but I should. My great grandmother did. Luckily she married a pretty decent and smart man from all accounts, so they were actually pretty well off. Their offspring went down the path of their own chosen demise. Her children sold their portions for lump sums, giving up all future rights.
 
gwheels

gwheels

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It is a 3 way tie between Yaweh, Jesus and Allah. And one of the 3 is real. Pick the one you like the best.
Israel has every right to defend itself. If it were Mexico and the USA and Mexico believed in suicide bombing maybe you would draw the same paralel. Or not. Liberals like to argue about peace and other impossible nonsense.

Last I checked believing in a God was still deemed ok unless that has been repressed in your country.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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gwheels said:
It is a 3 way tie between Yaweh, Jesus and Allah. And one of the 3 is real. Pick the one you like the best.
Israel has every right to defend itself. If it were Mexico and the USA and Mexico believed in suicide bombing maybe you would draw the same paralel. Or not. Liberals like to argue about peace and other impossible nonsense.

Last I checked believing in a God was still deemed ok unless that has been repressed in your country.
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A civilized nation doesn't order its military to open fire on unarmed civilians. Israel's right to defend itself is not the issue, the use of disproportionate force is. Also no attempts at diplomacy.

Israel has a blockade on Gaza. 2 million people are cut off from commerce and are bottled up in Gaza without many of the goods and services necessary for health much less a decent life. Access to clean water, medicine, food are all difficult. 50% unemployment. So, yeah, peace under these conditions is unrealistic. If you want to use Mexico as an example, if the US put a blockade on Mexico and refused to discuss removing that blockade we'd have war within a week.
 
gwheels

gwheels

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Fogdog said:
A civilized nation doesn't order its military to open fire on unarmed civilians. Israel's right to defend itself is not the issue, the use of disproportionate force is. Also no attempts at diplomacy.

Israel has a blockade on Gaza. 2 million people are cut off from commerce and are bottled up in Gaza without many of the goods and services necessary for health much less a decent life. Access to clean water, medicine, food are all difficult. 50% unemployment. So, yeah, peace under these conditions is unrealistic. If you want to use Mexico as an example, if the US put a blockade on Mexico and refused to discuss removing that blockade we'd have war within a week.
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Well that is probably the best logical argument I have heard yet. It makes sense.
 
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