Upper fan leaves canoe?

funky3821

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Im new to growing and my current garden is only my second. I have 3 females that I got to preflowering and I turned the light cycle down to 11.5 hours. They are at week three and buds started to form but I now the growth started to slow and the leaves started to turn yellow on the lower portions of the plant. After reading shenagen write up I took it as it lacked nitrogen. I already was giving it a 24-8-16 fert. every third watering. So I upped the feedings and less then a day later my upper portions canoed and started showing small light brown patchs on affected leaves. So again I read the write up and thought it was over fert. So I flushed the plant. Now two days later it has only gotten worse. Please help!!
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smokeybandit22

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Pics dont show too much. I believe some canoeing is normal with diff strains to a point. But by the way you are feeding her and what you describe it sounds to me more like you have the begginings of Nitrogen Toxicity. Are these brown spots on the top fan leaves starting with the ones that have the most direct sunlight? I think that is way too much Nitrigen to feed even week one at flowering. Need nutes around 5-5-5 or so first couple weeks flowering and than less Nitrogen and more Potassium and Phosphorous like 2-7-7 and weeks prior to flushing cutting down Nitrogen as much as possible without like 0-5-5.

If she has too much Nitrogen than you need to change your res with some Superthrive and an 0-5-5 or so nute mix. If Nitrogen Toxicity, than there is nothing you can do but wait it out for a week or so feeding her ZERO Nitrogen. Looks like she is outside. If so I would Foliar Feed with a 0-5-5 at dusk and dawn, more at dawn and alot less at dusk.
Chances are you may get some other nute lockouts from the toxicity, so go with 1/2 strength only.
I think if it is outside, you can use small amounts of molasses which will contain some trace elements. Make sure you are using PH balanced water. If it gets real hot outside than I would shade her from the sun's intensity as this will accelerate the nitrogen burning off and causing the brown spots until you have this resolved.
I have had this 4 times worse than yours and trust me solve it now if indeed it is Nitrogen Toxicity. The pics kinda suck you have so hard to tell.
Are you East/West/North/South?
 

smokeybandit22

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Also it looks like some leaves are starting to twist. Canoeing without the brown spots is indicitive of humidity problems. They are cupping down to conserve moisture.
This is just MHO from your pics.
 

spartanink

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i agree, humidity and heat are a big factor that cause canoeing. check ur levels on both. if those brown spots are still there i seriously recommend flushing with clean water for up to a week before feeding more. nitrogen is the easiest nutrient to over feed with so be careful.
 

Doctor Pot

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You sure those top leaves aren't just too close to the light? That would be my first guess, since it's happened with pretty much ever one of my indoor grows.
 

NewGrowth

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It could be over fertilization, but more likely it is due to the pH being off. Too high or too low a pH can lock up nutrients in the form of un-dissolvable salts and compounds, some of which are actually toxic to the plants. What then happens is the grower then tries to supplement the plants diet by adding more fertilizers, throwing off the pH even more and locking up even more nutrients. This type of problem is seen more often in soil mixes, where inconsistent mixing of the medium's components leads to "hot" spots.
 

El'Roacho

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Look under the leaves and check to make sure there aren't any spider mites or eggs under the leaves. Also canoing can form from heat stress & over watering.
 
Slight case of heat stress. Your temps are probably a little high directly under the light and most likely high humidity at night. Get a thermometer hanging between the lamps and canopy. Try not to let this area get over 80 at max, achieve that and the rest of your room temps will be perfect. It's not nitrogen toxicity , your leaves would be curling down like a eagle claw and most likely be extremely dark green.
 

Dr.Nick Riviera

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Slight case of heat stress. Your temps are probably a little high directly under the light and most likely high humidity at night. Get a thermometer hanging between the lamps and canopy. Try not to let this area get over 80 at max, achieve that and the rest of your room temps will be perfect. It's not nitrogen toxicity , your leaves would be curling down like a eagle claw and most likely be extremely dark green.
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