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Dr. Bob

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Interesting, you are a promoter for another certification clinic. And putting up posts hostile to Dr. Bob, a competitor clinic. Very interesting.

Dr. Bob
 

tomcatjones

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all clinics are equal as they help patients... the community here at rollitup.org as i have found is dedicated to helping educate, promote, and provide for each other equally and as much as possible. we don't compete. we help each other out.
 

bloodytrichomes

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Interesting, you are a promoter for another certification clinic. And putting up posts hostile to Dr. Bob, a competitor clinic. Very interesting.

Dr. Bob
dr bob are you saying doing certs is a compitition ? this sounds like dr that is trying to help patients at a fair price .dr bob would you do this kind of pricing sorta like xmas for the patients
 

Dr. Bob

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Actually we have a discount ($75) clinic in Grayling every two weeks for those that can't afford the regular price (Dec 5 and 19 are the next one), I give up my fee and pretty much just pay expenses to make sure no one that needs one doesn't have access to a certification. We do, as we do at all our clinics, require medical records. And of course, the patients will actually meet the doctor rather than fill out the forms and have them mailed to them a la HydroWorld. That isn't a holiday deal, folks need certs all year long, so we do it all year long and have for years. Our holiday special is bring three you're free at our regular clinics.

Our clinics fully comply with the medical board standards, free follow up, and expert witness fees are covered in the cost of all our certs, including the Grayling $75 ones. More importantly, we are a professional, physician run, standards based clinic and the value of that comes in to play when you are sitting at a defense table and we are the only thing between you and a cell. My patients have always gone home if they found themselves in that situation. All our patients are backed by me and a practice that is viewed with statewide respect, both in government and the courts.

So in short, the answer is yes Bloody, we do look out for patients and take in to account those that are financially challenged. And we give them the best certification they can get in N. Michigan.

Dr. Bob
 

Dr. Bob

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I should note that the clinic advertised at the start of this thread is not mine or associated with me in any way. My comments were in reference to what I do at my clinics, it does not imply that all clinics adhere to those standards. Those in the Clare area wishing to attend one of my clinics can go to the Grayling clinic on the 5th and 19 or I'm in my Mt. Pleasant Office on Wednesdays every week.

Dr. Bob
 

bloodytrichomes

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DaleRoberts

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What if a person doesn't have medical record? I haven't had insurance for a long time so I haven't seen a doc for yeas to treat my migranes and muscle spasms. I usually go to a place every year and just show them all of my past renewals and they write me a new one. The doc I used to see retired in 2009 so his office is no longer around. I don't know where to even got to get my old medical records. Marijuana has been that good for me that I haven't even bothered paying a doc for years....
 

Dr. Bob

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And your point of pointing out the photo is what? How does pointing out the work of a detractor with photoshop skills adding to the conversation, especially in light of the fact I clearly HAVE a clue? Just curious as to how a snide remark from you adds to this or any discussion. What exactly do you add to this site besides just being a general, harassing ass? Nothing, and folks are getting tired of your little antics. Go run back to Jo Jo and I am sure you will find folks that appreciate your attempts at humor, folks here have serious questions and better things to do than deal with your school yard teasing.

Dr. Bob
 

Dr. Bob

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What if a person doesn't have medical record? I haven't had insurance for a long time so I haven't seen a doc for yeas to treat my migranes and muscle spasms. I usually go to a place every year and just show them all of my past renewals and they write me a new one. The doc I used to see retired in 2009 so his office is no longer around. I don't know where to even got to get my old medical records. Marijuana has been that good for me that I haven't even bothered paying a doc for years....
You would be looking to qualify under severe and chronic pain/nausea more than likely. Chronic is defined as taking place over longer than 3 months for the most part, severe means it is affecting your life badly enough you need to seek treatment. This is a schedule 1 narcotic and under Michigan law you need to jump through certain hoops to get special permission under the MMMA to use it. Those hoops include a review of your current medical condition. The past certifications do count, and a more solid case can be made if you simply go into a doctor for an update of your condition and treatment plan each year.

Many say that they don't have insurance and can't afford a SINGLE visit to a primary care doctor a year- for a review, preventative care, whatever. In many cases these same people gladly pay cash for grow equipment, dispensary medication, medication from their caregivers, etc. People using 1 oz a month for a year, at $200 an ounce, pay 2400 dollars a year for cannabis. They will also pay DOUBLE the cost of a records base certification at many of those 'no record clinics'. Taking that 'extra' fee for a no records certification and the cost of 1 oz of meds a year they could easily go to an urgent care and do it right. Many counties also have sliding scale, income based, clinics.

Saying you don't have insurance and therefore don't get care is not an answer, it is a choice and a matter of priorities. To expect the courts to accept the argument is not a well designed defense. Will it work? Maybe. I am sure there are clinics out there that would just have you sign a paper saying you are sick as long as you hand over cash to them. My approach is different. I give you access to a low cost clinic to free up the money to see a primary care doctor and get the records I require. I'm also developing a primary care clinic (currently we just do the pain control because I don't have enough support staff to put physicians in all the offices) designed for those that don't have insurance and must pay cash. I made it far more affordable than the alternatives, because I think it is a model that will work for the uninsured working people.

So I am trying to develop options for folks just like you. But it takes time to build a major healthcare network, and we've accomplished a lot in just 3 short years. In 3 more it should be in place.

Dr. Bob
 

Dr. Bob

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Does anyone else find it ironic that cannabis works so well for so many things that people become better and don't continue to seek the care for the condition any more? Can't argue with success is what I say. Pity that the rules are what they are some times.

Dr. Bob
 

bloodytrichomes

New Member
And your point of pointing out the photo is what? How does pointing out the work of a detractor with photoshop skills adding to the conversation, especially in light of the fact I clearly HAVE a clue? Just curious as to how a snide remark from you adds to this or any discussion. What exactly do you add to this site besides just being a general, harassing ass? Nothing, and folks are getting tired of your little antics. Go run back to Jo Jo and I am sure you will find folks that appreciate your attempts at humor, folks here have serious questions and better things to do than deal with your school yard teasing.

Dr. Bob
wow your back to joe again why is that theres bad shit about you everywhere .go back to cpu and sell us out ...why are you promoting your self on a thread for a cert clinic that isnt yours ..you seem a little jealous
 

DaleRoberts

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Does anyone else find it ironic that cannabis works so well for so many things that people become better and don't continue to seek the care for the condition any more? Can't argue with success is what I say. Pity that the rules are what they are some times.

Dr. Bob

Hey Dr Bob thanks for taking the time to address my comments as I really appreciate it. I used to get treatment for my migranes and my doc gave me Vicodin for pain management with migranes. For my back first it was flexeril then soma. I got pretty addicted to the pills and I'd run out before I could refill my script. Then hell would follow. Opiates are a nasty evil drug. Soma can knock an elephant down. Smoking a little cannabis really did more and still does than any of the meds I was prescribed. Also I sleep better and I can eat better!

So you are saying I should go see a doc just to keep my pain on record? I live in Macomb county near Mt Clemens...Can you reccomend someone to go to?
 

Dr. Bob

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Hey Dr Bob thanks for taking the time to address my comments as I really appreciate it. I used to get treatment for my migranes and my doc gave me Vicodin for pain management with migranes. For my back first it was flexeril then soma. I got pretty addicted to the pills and I'd run out before I could refill my script. Then hell would follow. Opiates are a nasty evil drug. Soma can knock an elephant down. Smoking a little cannabis really did more and still does than any of the meds I was prescribed. Also I sleep better and I can eat better!

So you are saying I should go see a doc just to keep my pain on record? I live in Macomb county near Mt Clemens...Can you reccomend someone to go to?
That is EXACTLY what I am saying, you want it on record that it is ongoing.... In all honesty, for your problem at this stage of the game, I would just go to an urgent care if you can afford it, or find a sliding scale clinic (health department is a good start) if you can't. Just gives you a better, defensible certification.

Dr. Bob
 
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