**ULTIMATE LED TEST** *GLH Spectra 290* VS *Blackstar 500* VS *Hydro Grow LED 336X*

nasar

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Hi Nasar exactly the same amount of plants you would grow in Scrogg with any other lighting that are in that area (also depends how big you have grown them in Veg). I usually go clones as the cuttings are Genetically the same age as the mother plant and once they have established a good amount of roots you can feed more earlier. But Scrog is definitely the way to go.However if you want to grow vertical it's not a problem because the new light will Penetrate amazingly well. Got ur pm and I will be in touch, many thanks :-)
Hi thanks for reply i'm a noob and would like to get the perfect lights so i never have to upgrade, i do understand the principal about cuttings, as i'm a beginner i would like to let the plant grow natural first with out sog/scrog/lst/fim/super-cropping and preferably from seed then eventually use clones, so the plants may end up 3 to 4 foot. As you said this light replaces 600 watt HPS, i wanted to use it so i could pack as many plants in a 3x3 area and grow natural then as i get a few yields under my belt i would like to use the techniques,
scrog/super-crop/lst/fim/sog. Sog is the method i really would like to employ as as scrog takes really long to grow.
 

maxpesh

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Hi thanks for reply i'm a noob and would like to get the perfect lights so i never have to upgrade, i do understand the principal about cuttings, as i'm a beginner i would like to let the plant grow natural first with out sog/scrog/lst/fim/super-cropping and preferably from seed then eventually use clones, so the plants may end up 3 to 4 foot. As you said this light replaces 600 watt HPS, i wanted to use it so i could pack as many plants in a 3x3 area and grow natural then as i get a few yields under my belt i would like to use the techniques,
scrog/super-crop/lst/fim/sog. Sog is the method i really would like to employ as as scrog takes really long to grow.
The reason I use Scrog is because I just have a mother plant and when my plants go into flower room I can get the next lot started 2 weeks later in another tent therefore a couple of week for clones to root and then 4 weeks veg therefore a full harvest every 8 weeks. But Sog green is also a good idea. The more intense the light (within reason)the better.
 

maxpesh

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Hey max do you have any pics of anything grown with your light?
Not yet, I have been in negotiations with the assembly plant about prices and spectrum's and diodes, not nasty Chinese copies but genuine Cree, Bridgelux and Epistar, So have just about finalized everything and will do a first grow with the prototype soon for my own results, but I don't expect anyone to take my words on faith as words are cheap. But soon as I have finished the grow I will be donating the light to an independent grower for testing in a 3ft x 3ft area. Already will have a 3 yr guarantee though. Like I said, I am hoping to launch the company somewhere near the end of January and ship worldwide. Up to now though, specs & price : 8 bands, actual power consumption 260watts, very high build quality fully finned heatsinks + silicon heatpad transfer, ultra quiet fans and extra focusing lens for each diode. Estimated price $570. So high end product competing on price with cheap models. See what can be achieved without greed ? Up to now I have had many people with some very kind words on here so this WILL definitely happen as soon as I can do it. ;-)
 

ejbarraza

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so how many LED's are u planning on putting into the light....and are they going to be 1, 2, 3 watt diodes or a mix of them.....also will the 3 year warranty require very specific and impossible hurdles to be jumped so that the warranty can cover the light if there should be a defective light or if it just simply stops working after a year? I have high hopes for you and your company so best of luck and I'd also love to test out your light :)
 

Kaptain Kron

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Sounds good max I'm Ina place where six bills becomes real money if for some reason your light doesn't perform. That being said its why I'm having issues deciding who to go with for my next light purchase anyways. I need more juice I'm gettin awesome yields off what I got but it's not enough to meet demand so I need to step up. I too have high hopes for this light and I'll be wAtchin closely to see how everything goes for ya. Best of luck. I hope you bring us a bad ass light
 

Kaptain Kron

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Also that's an excellent price on a light in that draw range. I've got he money it's just ao hard to part with it because I canT afford to be wrong right now lol ;)
 

maxpesh

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so how many LED's are u planning on putting into the light....and are they going to be 1, 2, 3 watt diodes or a mix of them.....also will the 3 year warranty require very specific and impossible hurdles to be jumped so that the warranty can cover the light if there should be a defective light or if it just simply stops working after a year? I have high hopes for you and your company so best of luck and I'd also love to test out your light :)
All 3 watt genuine diodes outputting at max efficiency lumens. Guarantee is rock solid. Honesty is the policy !
 

maxpesh

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Also that's an excellent price on a light in that draw range. I've got he money it's just ao hard to part with it because I canT afford to be wrong right now lol ;)
Just as I have said. Not gonna be ready until January. The light is going to be my baby and I'm certainly not gonna rip anyone off, I am a great believer in Karma. Just replied to a previous post and this is gonna be my motto for the company. "Honesty is the policy". I am just like anyone else, been burned in the past and this is one of the reasons why I am doing this.
 

hippy132

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Just as I have said. Not gonna be ready until January. The light is going to be my baby and I'm certainly not gonna rip anyone off, I am a great believer in Karma. Just replied to a previous post and this is gonna be my motto for the company. "Honesty is the policy". I am just like anyone else, been burned in the past and this is one of the reasons why I am doing this.
I think, that if you are paying half of what you are selling them for, then that’s an almost fair deal. So, as a retailer, I pay $100 for an item with overhead and brick and mortar costs, I should sell it for $200. That’s 100% markup, not unusual, but wonder what the markup is on the LEDs', just saying...
 

KawiZZR

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I think, that if you are paying half of what you are selling them for, then that’s an almost fair deal. So, as a retailer, I pay $100 for an item with overhead and brick and mortar costs, I should sell it for $200. That’s 100% markup, not unusual, but wonder what the markup is on the LEDs', just saying...
In a lot of industries a 100% markup is extremely low and almost unheard of, especially for high end or niche goods. Food, clothing, furniture, jewelry, cars, etc all have higher markups than this in many cases.
 

maxpesh

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I think, that if you are paying half of what you are selling them for, then that’s an almost fair deal. So, as a retailer, I pay $100 for an item with overhead and brick and mortar costs, I should sell it for $200. That’s 100% markup, not unusual, but wonder what the markup is on the LEDs', just saying...
If it was a 100% mark up it would be a LOT more expensive that $570
 

maxpesh

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In a lot of industries a 100% markup is extremely low and almost unheard of, especially for high end or niche goods. Food, clothing, furniture, jewelry, cars, etc all have higher markups than this in many cases.
Well my mark up is nowhere near what you are thinking, speculate all you like but don't think everyone is the same, there are,( believe it or not) some people in this world who aren't greedy.
 

stak

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I worked for a lighting company for several years, about half of that doing quotes, and we usually tried to get around 30% (long) markup from cost.
 
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