**ULTIMATE LED TEST** *GLH Spectra 290* VS *Blackstar 500* VS *Hydro Grow LED 336X*

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leogets

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first im a hater cause i liked my blackstar led untill it broke 3 months into a 12 month warranty a warranty gothem hydro refused to honor so i had to protect my investment by doing a creditcard chargeback after talks broke down an gothem hydro did nothing ... yes im totaly at fault there clearly ... apon further research im not the only one this has happened to an i doubt ill be the last

now im a troll for calling a child on his bullshit you can go read his posts for yourself as many others have since i made that post

why does it seem like your whole purpose of this thread is to souly defend an promote blackstar and gothem hydro products ? you seem to get riled up as does sleezy anytime anyone calls people on there bullshit regarding blackstar products i mean i owned a 500 blackstar an still have the 240 i know there limitations they are still the best bang for buck led out there if you wanna run the risk of gothem dogging you on the warranty so you'd think for the purpose of this thread you'd also be calling that child on his bullshit 1 week he is a cfl pc case grower then the next in a tent then the next being shut down by his parents then the next he is pull pounds off a single led .. lol .. as that is the type of inflated crap led lights in general dont need going forward

why is it the more i check here the more i see the same type of posts regarding blackstar led's while other brands are alot more realistic and honest ?

why is it only gothem hydro that is going to these lengths to promote these led's in this way with misinformation and down right false advertisement and lies ? not to mention warranty they dont honor

all relevent questions regarding this thread , sleezys thread and both your attitudes

everythings alright till its not
 
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WeJuana

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leogets said:
first im a hater cause i liked my blackstar led untill it broke 3 months into a 12 month warranty a warranty gothem hydro refused to honor so i had to protect my investment by doing a creditcard chargeback after talks broke down an gothem hydro did nothing ... yes im totaly at fault there clearly ... apon further research im not the only one this has happened to an i doubt ill be the last

now im a troll for calling a child on his bullshit you can go read his posts for yourself as many others have since i made that post

why does it seem like your whole purpose of this thread is to souly defend an promote blackstar and gothem hydro products ? you seem to get riled up as does sleezy anytime anyone calls people on there bullshit regarding blackstar products i mean i owned a 500 blackstar an still have the 240 i know there limitations they are still the best bang for buck led out there if you wanna run the risk of gothem dogging you on the warranty so you'd think for the purpose of this thread you'd also be calling that child on his bullshit 1 week he is a cfl pc case grower then the next in a tent then the next being shut down by his parents then the next he is pull pounds off a single led .. lol .. as that is the type of inflated crap led lights in general dont need going forward

why is it the more i check here the more i see the same type of posts regarding blackstar led's while other brands are alot more realistic and honest ?

why is it only gothem hydro that is going to these lengths to promote these led's in this way with misinformation and down right false advertisement and lies ? not to mention warranty they dont honor

all relevent questions regarding this thread , sleezys thread and both your attitudes

everythings alright till its not
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I understand your frustrations, I have only been working here a short distance. lol. You can have your beef with Gotham, but there is no need to bring it to a non related forum topic just because it is using Blackstars.

I would like you to please go quote any and all of my posts which you feel "defend and promote blackstar and gotham hydro products" because quite frankly, I feel I have been nothing but unbiased, and if that is NOT the case, I encourage ANYONE who reads this to please quote my posts and bring it to my attention.

I think it't not merely coincidental you posted on only 2 LED threads, it's obvious you are the one with the bias against Blackstar so please don't try to pawn it off on me like I have one.

I ask if you have a problem, you take it to the correct section, since RIU recently started a LED section it seems like that would be the appropriate place.

I have no issue if you wish to participate on the thread, but don't bring your past problems that have nothing to do with me and my thread. Thanks.

If there are any "relevant questions regarding this thread" I failed to answer please let me know, but questioning me about Gotham Hydro's practices, or Sleezys are not included as relevant since they are not me.
 
maxpesh

maxpesh

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Good morning to all, the Sun is shining and it's in the high 70's, gonna go to the beach and look at all the nice titties, maybe a couple of beers. It is Sunday after all, time to chillax ;-)
 
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nasar

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maxpesh said:
At the moment all I can say is that I am sourcing my equipment or find a good quality manufacturer to build them to MY specifications i.e, the spectrums that I know work better specifically for mary jane. You noticed how Penetrator now uses Green, well that was my idea put forward to Cammie 18 months ago any she brushed it off, now glad I didn't say much else. But I have 25 years experience in the electronics industry, been growing for 15 years, I am not going to spam my company on these journals though. But I will make this promise. NO ONE will be getting ripped with over pricing and the spectrums will be perfect (8 of them). I will soon give out my price for my first light designed to replace a 600watt hps in 10ft square tent
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That's good to hear maxpesh really look forward for your company to be launched and having wejuana trying out your light that will accommodate a 10ft square tent, and actually replacing a 600 watt hps. And as you promise the price won't be a rip off like hgl penetrator and glh spectra and hope for price competitive to blackstar.

I will be waiting to purchase your light i have faith iin you and wejuana.
 
Endur0xX

Endur0xX

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I gotta agree with leogets regarding Kaptain Kron`s cheap talk, Now that I hear that Kaptain Kron`s first grow got shut down by his parents, all of his posts are making a lot more sense now. Kaptain, you can stop talking like you have been growing for 10 years... <<I never pulled less than 1.5gpw>> like you have so many harvest under your belt, how many harvest do you actually have with this number? 1 ? you are just a kid in love with the stuff you buy :) no offense :)


I am not trollin, I just think that someone going from one thread to the next saying things like this is just giving false information, even though you could prove you did it once (I would like to see that) I dont think it`s right to talk as if it was the norm, I have seen a lot of LEDs grow online and it`s not like many people are pulling these numbers... even with A1 setup.
 
Endur0xX

Endur0xX

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maxpesh said:
When you say 450watts do you mean watts consumption ? Coz I'd like to see over 1g/watt on a regular basis then everyone going for the target of 2g/watt. Coz that's the day led's win ;-)
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well in my LED dresser, I have only 2 plants and they were shock big time when I transplanted them about 20ish days ago (went from a big pot to smaller pot to fit the dresser), the plants are very small for their age. It`s a small dresser and I am an inexperienced grower, so I am just setting realistic goal to start with. I don`t really care about numbers for now I just want to see the light growing damn good buds though, then I will feel confident about LEDs!
 
maxpesh

maxpesh

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Endur0xX said:
well in my LED dresser, I have only 2 plants and they were shock big time when I transplanted them about 20ish days ago (went from a big pot to smaller pot to fit the dresser), the plants are very small for their age. It`s a small dresser and I am an inexperienced grower, so I am just setting realistic goal to start with. I don`t really care about numbers for now I just want to see the light growing damn good buds though, then I will feel confident about LEDs!
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I am on this with you my friend and I can totally understand where you are coming from. There are a lot of led businesses try to find the correct solution to competing with HID for lower power consumption, and they are nearly there, but the shortfalls are totally obvious to me. Just be patient and see what happens in the next couple of months :-) We need to get rid of the cheap crap that doesn't deliver and bring down the prices of the so called decent lights. Too many greedy people. It's called KARMA !
 
Beefbisquit

Beefbisquit

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Hey WJ, still loving the Journal man....


Haters gonna hate....

Put on your hate blockers mayne, let that hate just roll off... :blsmoke:
 
maxpesh

maxpesh

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LED haters are akin to putting a dying animal in a corner. Bites like fuck :-)) Anyway,,, the tits on the beach were good today ;-)
 
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WeJuana

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nasar said:
That's good to hear maxpesh really look forward for your company to be launched and having wejuana trying out your light that will accommodate a 10ft square tent, and actually replacing a 600 watt hps. And as you promise the price won't be a rip off like hgl penetrator and glh spectra and hope for price competitive to blackstar.

I will be waiting to purchase your light i have faith iin you and wejuana.
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I am excited to learn about the light myself. Nothing is set in stone yet as far as me testing, but I am definitely interested in hearing about the product maxpesh!
 
jubiare

jubiare

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Hey wejuana, how's the spectra doing? Any particular thoughts on it? Any burning, bleachin or strange deficiencies? Have you found out from GLH if is v1 or v2?
Many many thanks
 
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WeJuana

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jubiare said:
Hey wejuana, how's the spectra doing? Any particular thoughts on it? Any burning, bleachin or strange deficiencies? Have you found out from GLH if is v1 or v2?
Many many thanks
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I'm having a hard time making any judgements with these plants since they have been going through such issues. They have all seen quite a bit of abuse this run, the Penetrator tent I would say was the less stressed of the 3 tents nutrient wise.

Even with this harvest, I won't draw any conclusions on the lights just yet, as of the problems with this first run. I want to want to get 2 or 3 runs in without nute issue to get a fair result.

My lens has still not gotten here, but once it arrives I will get some full plant shots.
 
hippy132

hippy132

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jubiare said:
Hey wejuana, how's the spectra doing? Any particular thoughts on it? Any burning, bleachin or strange deficiencies? Have you found out from GLH if is v1 or v2?
Many many thanks
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Does it really matter, my understanding from Mike at GLH is that they will no longer be selling the 290's.
 
Bad Karma

Bad Karma

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jubiare said:
well, they are on sale on ebay :D
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They're dirt cheap with no returns accepted, hmmmm.
Mike never properly tested that batch of lights and now he's paying for it, literally.
I would be wary of picking up any Spectras on Ebay, considering the power supply failure issue associated with those models.
Hence Mike selling them off cheap so he can earn enough capital to manufacture more of the current model.

As for this "Ultimate LED Test", what was it that Thumper's mom said?
 
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