U.S. Constitution
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ViRedd
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Originally Posted by undertheice 
"economic liberty, all liberty, is vital"
Then Chuck sez:
Important yes, vital no.
What is of real importance is an individuals rights.
Chuck ...
You continue revealing your absolute stupidity in this forum.
Economic liberty isn't so much concerned about "money," as it is with overall liberty.
When a populous loses it's economic liberty, political liberty is lost as well.
You trash the U.S. Constitution, without realizing what a great liberty document it is. There are important reasons why the Constitution gives Congress the power to "coin money," and why it called for the money of account to be gold and silver.
You really should study the history of the founding of the nation you deserted, Chuckie.
Vi
"economic liberty, all liberty, is vital"
Then Chuck sez:
Important yes, vital no.
What is of real importance is an individuals rights.
Chuck ...
You continue revealing your absolute stupidity in this forum.
Economic liberty isn't so much concerned about "money," as it is with overall liberty.
When a populous loses it's economic liberty, political liberty is lost as well.
You trash the U.S. Constitution, without realizing what a great liberty document it is. There are important reasons why the Constitution gives Congress the power to "coin money," and why it called for the money of account to be gold and silver.
You really should study the history of the founding of the nation you deserted, Chuckie.
Vi
NorthwestBuds
Well-Known Member
My guess is 5 minutes.
chuckbane
New Member
I type with 1-3 fingers, so that might be stretching it, lolMy guess is 5 minutes.
Everything you speak of here Vi, is about the dollar. Money money money money.Originally Posted by undertheice
"economic liberty, all liberty, is vital"
Then Chuck sez:
Important yes, vital no.
What is of real importance is an individuals rights.
Chuck ...
You continue revealing your absolute stupidity in this forum.
Economic liberty isn't so much concerned about "money," as it is with overall liberty.
When a populous loses it's economic liberty, political liberty is lost as well.
You trash the U.S. Constitution, without realizing what a great liberty document it is. There are important reasons why the Constitution gives Congress the power to "coin money," and why it called for the money of account to be gold and silver.
You really should study the history of the founding of the nation you deserted, Chuckie.
Vi
Why do you think I treat you like shit? I hate your greed. the greed that has ruined America.
If only you could ever think of anything but the all mighty greenback
ViRedd
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I suspect that you treat most people like shit, Chuck.
I also suspect that you are a sorry little man who sits at his laptop in some far away Starbucks, sipping his latte, while wondering why he has been so unfortunate in the game called "Life."
So far, you have never uttered a positive thought in this forum, nor have you ever treated anyone here with respect. You must lead a very darkened, narrow, shallow little life, Chuck. Why else would you try to foist your negativism off onto other people and attempt to sap their positive energy, unless it is just some pathetic attempt on your part to raise yourself up in your own eyes?
Chuck, your low self esteem, and your trashed self image, shows in almost every post you make.
There is help available to you Chuck ... as well as medication. Its "free" in the country for which you abandoned your homeland. You need to seek both.
Vi
chuckbane
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Nope, I'm quite happy with life actually. I could die tomorrow and and be fine with it. I have got to see and do a lot in my life and I am grateful for the life lessons i learned.
No regrets.
Sorry to shit on your parade Vi.
are you still gonna hang around like a raunchy smell after McSame loses?
VTXDave
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I know I will. It's going to be fun watching the circle jerk from an observers perspective.
chuckbane
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No one asked you boyI know I will. It's going to be fun watching the circle jerk from an observers perspective.
VTXDave
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I know, but I firmly believe that everyone's entitled to my opinion. BTW, I'm still waiting for that trampling you're going to give me.No one asked you boy
undertheice
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like so many others, you just don't get it. it's not about money at all. it's about choice and the freedom to be secure in the fruits of your labor. the ability to acquire personal wealth is what differentiates a free man from a slave. the money is nothing more than a representation of power, the power to mold your surroundings and determine you own destiny. wealth is neither good nor evil as long as it is attained by moral means and used to moral ends.
it's as easy to equate success with avarice as it is failure with indolence, but neither supposition is necessarily true. despite the histrionics of your previous post, you do bring up one valid point. individual rights are of utmost importance. what you seem to miss is that economic liberty is part and parcel of the entire concept of the power of the individual. the freedom to succeed or fail without interference is an integral part of determining one's own destiny and money is just one gauge of where you are on the scale of success. money and what it can buy are merely the most outward signs of how well you have managed your own destiny. other, more esoteric, signs may be seen in how you utilize that wealth, but the mere fact that your bank account is flush is no sign of moral decay.
though i wasn't going to bother to respond to your little hissy fit, i've decided to answer this one question as an example of how we all consider success differently. the answer to your question is that i work with my hands, i always have and always will. i run a little one man show (remodeling and home repair) and strive to provide the best possible value for my customers. it's not going to make me rich, but it provides me with a comfortable living and allows me the sort of freedom that only working for yourself can give. while some may see it as a struggling existence, i consider it as a adequate sort of success. what i have i give freely to those around me, without thought of recompense or thanks, and i revel in my rather anarchistic lifestyle. though i don't own much besides my tools and my vehicles, neither am i indebted to the charity of others or the passing fancies of the state. i don't bother to whine over the inequities of life, i see little point in railing against the whims of fate and am perfectly willing to see that the blame for my failings rests firmly on my own shoulders. i will probably work until the day i die and manage to find some joy in it all. i will do so not because i must, but because i see a life without some use as a waste.
in short, i live this life as it suits me and see no sin in others who choose to do the same as long as they give some value for what they take. i may not have much, but neither do i begrudge others their own forms of success.
chuckbane
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AND just like so many others YOU do not get it.
Damn, how easy is it to say that. AND mean it.
Thats funny, the fruits of MY labour is the work I do for people. The happiness they have from a newer, safer, and more cost effective (in terms of heating and cooling) home.
And guess what? I dont need no fucking liberties for that. I do however need liberties to "protect" my stack. But I live comfortably so I dont care. I don't mind giving money to my government because they are doing good things with that money. (which, is why i bash the U.S. gov.)
I just think that they are treating the rich better and making this country for the rich because they pay the big taxes. And in the U.S. they go and piss that money away on an unjust war.
Wealth. you mean your stack? money money money.
Wierd, I dont need money to "determine my destiny"
You sir, are a joke.
Well, it wast directed to you, so why should you "bother"
chuckbane
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HahaYou're right, undertheice ... he just doesn't get it.
Great post, by the way.
Vi
you have to buck sides in order to make yourself look good. Only way you can when your dealing with me Vi.
kiss-ass