Two Week Old Clones Stem is Turning Red

Gardener 09

Active Member
i think it is beacase of nute defishancy but i dont know which one, it is to soon to start giving it miricle grow, and can i start bending and training now?bongsmilie
 

cruzer101

Well-Known Member
Purple stems are perfectly natural if it is in the genetics. Is it a purple strain?

If not then its a sigh of stress. I would start with the water. water it with fresh water or R/O maybe distilled if you can. keep the temps about 85° and if you can the root zone about 75°

Lots of things can stress a plant. Not just nutrients.

You can bend a plant anytime, Funny, I just found this:

  • Each time a growing tip is clipped, the stem branches into two shoots, which begin to grow from the nearest leaf axils.
  • Pruning a growing marijuana plant is an easy way of controlling uneven growth without seriously harming the plant.
  • Don't prune the growing tip of a young seedling until after the first five-bladed leaves have formed, and the vegetative stage has begun.
  • Many growers prune the growing tips after four to five weeks growth to develop lower branches which will quickly fill all the horizontal space.
  • The greatest potency of the growing plant is found in the growing tips, and by three months, they should make a high quality smoke.
  • You can basically prune growing tips at any stage of the plant's development, but just don't overdo it. Severe pruning can harm the growth of the plant.
  • It is always better to plan a pruning strategy for your developing plants, rather than haphazardly clipping off growing tips on an irregular basis.
  • Each time a growing tip is removed, the plant takes a few days to recover before new growth resumes on that branch.
  • The amount of new growth formed with continued pruning is limited by the genetic structure of the seed, and the conditions of the environment.
  • It is better to prune your plants at an early stage of their development, than towards the end of the vegetative stage or during flowering.
  • It is always better to prune growing tips in the morning than in the evening, as it gives the plant a full day to recover and heal the wounds.
  • It is not recommended that you prune every new node in a developing plant. Rather prune every second or third node to allow the plant time to recover.
  • Wait for the new node to start growing before clipping the young branch a few millimeters above the previous node's newly formed leaves.
  • It is always better to use a small scissors to prune your plants, than to simply pluck off the growing tips by hand.
  • Do not prune any growing tips if you notice that your plant's health is declining and it has started losing leaves.
  • Although you should always smoke the pruned growing tips, plants should be pruned to develop their growth rather than for smoking purposes.
  • While it may be tempting to prune female buds during early flowering, your harvest will be severely reduced by doing so.
  • Cannabis Indica is a genetically smaller and more bushy plant than Cannabis Sativa and usually requires less pruning.
  • Never prune more than the single growing tip, or upper-most node, from any branch on the growing plant.
  • The upper-most growing tip of an unpruned marijuana plant will always be more potent that the top buds of a pruned plant grown in similar conditions.
  • Pruning the tallest branches ensures that the lower branches grow upwards, forming a larger surface area for the light to cover.
  • The clear fluid that often flows from the end of a newly pruned branch, contains substances which seal the wound and aid the healing process.
  • Although it is recommended that you remove all dying leaves from the plant, you should resist the temptation to prune too many healthy leaves.
  • To grow seedless marijuana, you should remove all the male plants as soon as they are discovered, by pruning the main stem right above the ground.
  • Although it may be better developed, a pruned marijuana plant does not always produce more buds than an unpruned plant.
  • Another good reason for pruning is to take cuttings from a strong growing, favourite plant for further hydroponic development.
  • Marijuana growers often prune their plants in an attempt to limit their height and prevent unwanted detection.
  • An alternative to pruning for developing growth, is to bend the tops of the branches over and tie the growing tips down with string or wire.
  • Remember that by pruning a growing tip, you are removing the most potent part of the plant, thereby spoiling it's chance of reaching full maturity.
  • By pruning all the buds at harvest time, rather than cutting the stem off above the ground, you could easily harvest your plant a second time.
  • By severely pruning your marijuana plants you are lowering their resistance to harmful natural enemies such as insects, fungus and frost.
  • You can make a great cup of tea, by chopping up some pruned growing tips and soaking them in boiled water for a few minutes.
  • Cannabis is a very hardy and adaptable plant, and will endure serious harm to it's leaves, branches and stem before it dies.
 

MEANGREEN69

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once a clone has roots it should be given 1/4 strgth or less nutes, see how it reacts then go from there...purple stems IS a nute diff not sure of which ones,you will have to do your homework on that...
 

cruzer101

Well-Known Member
once a clone has roots it should be given 1/4 strgth or less nutes, see how it reacts then go from there...purple stems IS a nute diff not sure of which ones,you will have to do your homework on that...
That may be YOUR opinion however I can prove you are wrong.

I have done it with temps.
 

Bcmp

Member
try making it so your lights go on at night and and lights off during the day.... easyest way to keep the room not to hot when the light on and not to cold when lights off cheers and if your doing LST after the 3 real node i would start
 

MEANGREEN69

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That may be YOUR opinion however I can prove you are wrong.

I have done it with temps.

YOU may have done it with temps but YOUR not in his garden are you?..so just because you done it doesnt mean thats the only way/thing that makes stems trun purple...a clone has to feed from it leafs when its rooting so by the time it has put out some root they SOMETIMES have a nute diff, tomarrow after i go home and find were i read that about the purple stems i will come back and post it for u OK:mrgreen:...also 85 is not the best temp for a MJ plant unless u use co2.
 

Bcmp

Member
YOU may have done it with temps but YOUR not in his garden are you?..so just because you done it doesnt mean thats the only way/thing that makes stems trun purple...a clone has to feed from it leafs when its rooting so by the time it has put out some root they SOMETIMES have a nute diff, tomarrow after i go home and find were i read that about the purple stems i will come back and post it for u OK:mrgreen:...also 85 is not the best temp for a MJ plant unless u use co2.
85 is to high 75 is perfect..... whats your temp during the lights on and lights off?
 

cruzer101

Well-Known Member
YOU may have done it with temps but YOUR not in his garden are you?..so just because you done it doesnt mean thats the only way/thing that makes stems trun purple...a clone has to feed from it leafs when its rooting so by the time it has put out some root they SOMETIMES have a nute diff, tomarrow after i go home and find were i read that about the purple stems i will come back and post it for u OK:mrgreen:...also 85 is not the best temp for a MJ plant unless u use co2.
WTF?

Read your book. Maybe you will learn something. and CO2 at 1500PPMs is useless at 85° you need to be in the ninety's for the plants to be able to move it that fast. and more importantly you need HID. who knows what this guy has.

Hes probably got a few CFL's

I believe I answered his question correctly.
 
try making it so your lights go on at night and and lights off during the day.... easyest way to keep the room not to hot when the light on and not to cold when lights off cheers and if your doing LST after the 3 real node i would start

shouldnt they be under 24/0 when they are clones??
 

tyke1973

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Some guys on this site will say that it is through a nutrient def but i can honestly say that it will not effect the yeild in any way.But i would not start training the plant yet it is far too young.Let it get a bit older b4 messing around with the plants growth.I think that alot of cannabis plants have the redish hues on the stems through genetics not through nutrient def but this is what come first the chicken or the egg question.The only training that you realy want to be doing with your plant is to top it at two weeks in to flowering.All you have to do is think that a plant will tripple in size during the first 3 week of flowering.Sativa's even more so allow for this say if the hight of the grow room is 8 ft then i would flower at 2 and 1/2 ft this will give the plant plenty of room to grow.Also i would recomend to any grower new or old to flush there plants regular so that salts and other crap won't build upin the medium.2 times during veg and i flush once a week during flowering since doing the greenhouse way my plant's are green till the end with massive yeilds.
 

Bcmp

Member
shouldnt they be under 24/0 when they are clones??
oh yea your right sorry i didnt notice it said clone... you probably have them under Fluors right if so yea 24/0 works the best for the first week then 18/6

and for the guy who said you need HID... couldnt be more wrong if these are just clones CFL and Fluor in the 6500k works great for cutting and seedlings but once they get a bit bigger you well need a HID or atleast a bunch more CFL... but when it comes to flowering cfls wont do the trick youll need atleast a 400 w HPS if not a 1000 w HPS
 

cruzer101

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oh yea your right sorry i didnt notice it said clone... you probably have them under Fluors right if so yea 24/0 works the best for the first week then 18/6

and for the guy who said you need HID... couldnt be more wrong if these are just clones CFL and Fluor in the 6500k works great for cutting and seedlings but once they get a bit bigger you well need a HID or atleast a bunch more CFL... but when it comes to flowering cfls wont do the trick youll need atleast a 400 w HPS if not a 1000 w HPS
I was the guy and we were talking about the use of CO2

people just dont read. I'm out of here.
 

MEANGREEN69

Well-Known Member
WTF?

Read your book. Maybe you will learn something. and CO2 at 1500PPMs is useless at 85° you need to be in the ninety's for the plants to be able to move it that fast. and more importantly you need HID. who knows what this guy has.

Hes probably got a few CFL's

I believe I answered his question correctly.
you can believe what ever u want, but your giveing alot of incorrect info..a quick search on the web will show Co2 is used at temps of 75F and up..and as long as the plant has anuff nutes, water, light, co2 you can push them as fast as u like... and whats wrong with reading books that have CORRECT info for growing pot:confused:
 

Gardener 09

Active Member
yes, i am giving it 24/0 light and i keep it on the floor so the temp down there is probably 74-77 during day and 73-76 at night in there, there is a fan on in there so its not to hot, i started giving it 1/4 streangh in nutes and it liked it, i might even say the stem is getting greener too
 

Bcmp

Member
WTF?

Read your book. Maybe you will learn something. and CO2 at 1500PPMs is useless at 85° you need to be in the ninety's for the plants to be able to move it that fast. and more importantly you need HID. who knows what this guy has.

Hes probably got a few CFL's

I believe I answered his question correctly.
and more importantly you need HID. who knows what this guy has.

Hes probably got a few CFL's


right there buddy your right some people do need to read... esspecially before your post
 
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