Trump signs resolution killing rule intended to prevent racial bias in auto lending

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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doublejj said:
then millennials own trump, so they can stop bitching about him.....little sh*ts
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Where do you get the idea that the Democratic party is entitled to millennial votes?

If they want millennial votes, they need to support progressive policy like universal healthcare. If they don't, Trump and Republicans have a better chance of winning again
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
"Vote my way or I'll give you Trump. It is time for you to choose MY side."

Fuck that
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Where is the sense in appealing to compromise with a party or political policy borne from incompetence and/or corruption?

Did African Americans do it during the Civil Rights Movement?

Did women do it during the suffrage movement?

Would you blame either of these two groups for demanding representation in congress or politicians wouldn't earn their votes?

Then why do you blame progressives for withholding their votes from politicians you support when they believe they don't represent them instead of the politicians?
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Where is the sense in appealing to compromise with a party or political policy borne from incompetence and/or corruption?

Did African Americans do it during the Civil Rights Movement?

Did women do it during the suffrage movement?

Would you blame either of these two groups for demanding representation in congress or politicians wouldn't earn their votes?

Then why do you blame progressives for withholding their votes from politicians you support when they believe they don't represent them instead of the politicians?
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WTF, man? You have nothing at stake compared to other delegations in the Democratic Party. You can afford to take the uncompromising stance because you won't take the heat if Trump wins again.

As a matter of fact, civil rights African American leaders of the 50's and 60's worked hard to craft a message to ensure it wouldn't alienate white voters who were sympathetic to their cause. They weren't as extreme as many in their delegation demanded. There was quite a bit of disagreement over this. Probably still is today.

Women during the suffrage movement were divided over the radical actions by a few women. Even so, while they won the right to vote, they didn't win equality with men in practically any aspect of society. Translating your position to this, you'd have women stop supporting the nineteenth because it failed to ensure equal opportunity for women.

George Wallace gained a strong endorsement by Black leadership in order to hold back the Republican tide that began under Nixon and continued under Reagan.

Basically, you are ignorant of what really happened in the civil rights era. Real progressives work pragmatically to make steady progress. Your stance is to risk it all. Thus far, your group is only cherry picking races in liberal districts and only winning half of those. That's not progressive. Yours is just a fringe idealistic group.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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Padawanbater2 said:
Where do you get the idea that the Democratic party is entitled to millennial votes?

If they want millennial votes, they need to support progressive policy like universal healthcare. If they don't, Trump and Republicans have a better chance of winning again
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If millennials want to swallow republican bullshit I can't help them, they have lost their souls...and are entitled to trump and his suicidal policies
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Fogdog said:
WTF, man? You have nothing at stake compared to other delegations in the Democratic Party. You can afford to take the uncompromising stance because you won't take the heat if Trump wins again.

As a matter of fact, civil rights African American leaders of the 50's and 60's worked hard to craft a message to ensure it wouldn't alienate white voters who were sympathetic to their cause. They weren't as extreme as many in their delegation demanded. There was quite a bit of disagreement over this. Probably still is today.

Women during the suffrage movement were divided over the radical actions by a few women. Even so, while they won the right to vote, they didn't win equality with men in practically any aspect of society. Translating your position to this, you'd have women stop supporting the nineteenth because it failed to ensure equal opportunity for women.

George Wallace gained a strong endorsement by Black leadership in order to hold back the Republican tide that began under Nixon and continued under Reagan.

Basically, you are ignorant of what really happened in the civil rights era. Real progressives work pragmatically to make steady progress. Your stance is to risk it all. Thus far, your group is only cherry picking races in liberal districts and only winning half of those. That's not progressive. Yours is just a fringe idealistic group.
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They should call themselves the Weak Tea Party.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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doublejj said:
If millennials want to swallow republican bullshit I can't help them, they have lost their souls...and are entitled to trump and his suicidal policies
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Millennial's aren't "swallowing republican bullshit", they're refusing to vote for legitimate corruption, and without their votes, Democratic politicians can't win elections
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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Padawanbater2 said:
I stated facts you can't address because they expose your hypocrisy. You care when the election is influenced against you when Trump does it, but you support Clinton influencing the election against Sanders. So it's clear, given the evidence, that it's not the subversion of democracy that bothers you, it's the subversion of democracy when it affects the candidate you support that bothers you.

It sucks when one candidate unfairly influences the outcome of the election against you, doesn't it?

You bought it
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Why did Justice Democrats raise over 1.8 mill this year, but only donated $18k to candidates and now have only 8k on hand?
 
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