Moses Mobetta
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But, but how can you be in two places at once when you're not anywhere at all?
Trump really is Mean and Stupid
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TrippleDip
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no, I do things that have an effect on my life. Like I said, no hate from me. I just came to this thread hoping to see maybe news stories or stuff to back up your claims but apart from the first page it's just everyone posting about how much they hate trump and no real discussion. Just an observation, and hence the previous post.
Herb & Suds
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Oh we have plenty of Radical Right wingers tossing up meme's like they are facts...no worries
Roger A. Shrubber
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go to just about any other thread in the forum, and you'll see a lot more "meaningful interactions"...i bother to do a little research before i make most posts in a "serious" thread...."serious...heh".....
but most of us do bother to think about shit...you just happened to hop into a white noise blow off steam thread...
Fogdog
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Trump and now his lead Inquisitor, Barr are creating a humanitarian crisis at the border and now plan to incarcerate indefinitely people who came to this country to legally apply for asylum. Instead of addressing the problem they simply use a club. An ineffective one at that. Earlier, in this thread I was told to leave this country because I re-posted an article from a conservative newspaper that criticized Trump on this very point.
Now this opinion piece from a left-leaning source that also has high marks for factual accuracy
Lack of progress tests the limits of Trump's immigration strategy
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/lack-progress-tests-limits-trump-s-immigration-strategy-n995341
WASHINGTON — In the Trump era, there's been a tendency to think about immigration policy as a political football. A cudgel. A weapon.
The president has certainly treated it as such. Just look at his latest proposal to transport undocumented immigrants to sanctuary cities as political retribution to Democrats — and his suggestion that his immigration opponents are "treasonous."
But if you look at immigration instead as a problem to be solved — more like health care — it may be a much better way to understand the long-term political risks of using the immigration issue to divide the electorate.
Trump and the GOP have hammered away at an immigration status quo they say doesn't work. But Trump's proposals to fix it have been politically unviable (the wall), legally untenable (denying the right to seek asylum), economically risky (closing the border), or the cause of public moral outrage (family separation.)
So, Trump has mostly been left with grievances. And griping about a system that doesn't work can only get you so far politically.
Just look at what happened with health care.
Republicans had great success in the 2010 and 2014 midterms picking apart Obamacare's flaws. But by 2018, Democrats clobbered them by running as the party that would fix the problems, after Republicans failed to come up with a workable alternative.
Sure, immigration is the defining issue for much of Trump's base. And there's certainly a chunk of his voters who will always stick with him on the grievances alone.
But in the middle of the electorate, voters — especially independents — are going to want to see progress.
And they're likely to reward candidates who seem to be taking solutions seriously.
It's popular to call Americans stupid because we "voted for Trump". In fact, more voted for somebody else and Trump sneaked in on the thinnest of margins in a few key states while losing the popular vote to Clinton. The first action taken by Trump was to attempt to create a crisis in healthcare by repealing the ACA with no plan in place to address the gaps in coverage for tens of millions of people. It was a close thing but the outrage vented at Republican Congressmen saved the day. So, Trump moved on to create a mess at our border. The American people are not stupid we see what he's doing. To the left and the right, fair minded people are calling him out for this manufactured crisis. We are likely to reward candidates who take solutions seriously.
Now this opinion piece from a left-leaning source that also has high marks for factual accuracy
Lack of progress tests the limits of Trump's immigration strategy
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/lack-progress-tests-limits-trump-s-immigration-strategy-n995341
WASHINGTON — In the Trump era, there's been a tendency to think about immigration policy as a political football. A cudgel. A weapon.
The president has certainly treated it as such. Just look at his latest proposal to transport undocumented immigrants to sanctuary cities as political retribution to Democrats — and his suggestion that his immigration opponents are "treasonous."
But if you look at immigration instead as a problem to be solved — more like health care — it may be a much better way to understand the long-term political risks of using the immigration issue to divide the electorate.
Trump and the GOP have hammered away at an immigration status quo they say doesn't work. But Trump's proposals to fix it have been politically unviable (the wall), legally untenable (denying the right to seek asylum), economically risky (closing the border), or the cause of public moral outrage (family separation.)
So, Trump has mostly been left with grievances. And griping about a system that doesn't work can only get you so far politically.
Just look at what happened with health care.
Republicans had great success in the 2010 and 2014 midterms picking apart Obamacare's flaws. But by 2018, Democrats clobbered them by running as the party that would fix the problems, after Republicans failed to come up with a workable alternative.
Sure, immigration is the defining issue for much of Trump's base. And there's certainly a chunk of his voters who will always stick with him on the grievances alone.
But in the middle of the electorate, voters — especially independents — are going to want to see progress.
And they're likely to reward candidates who seem to be taking solutions seriously.
It's popular to call Americans stupid because we "voted for Trump". In fact, more voted for somebody else and Trump sneaked in on the thinnest of margins in a few key states while losing the popular vote to Clinton. The first action taken by Trump was to attempt to create a crisis in healthcare by repealing the ACA with no plan in place to address the gaps in coverage for tens of millions of people. It was a close thing but the outrage vented at Republican Congressmen saved the day. So, Trump moved on to create a mess at our border. The American people are not stupid we see what he's doing. To the left and the right, fair minded people are calling him out for this manufactured crisis. We are likely to reward candidates who take solutions seriously.
potroastV2
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"Highly" likely! 
Fogdog
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yeah, sure. It's random that you just appeared here for your first posts at a pot growing site.
It's too funny how you right wing nuts virtue signal ignorance. Then turn around and try to use the term as an insult to people who don't share your ignorance.
Ignorance isn't a virtue. Just saying.
MrStickyScissors
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Go Trump whoop whoop!
doublejj
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Go directly to jail....do not pass go
Budzbuddha
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Rob Roy
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Isn't Trump unconcerned with a persons "inalienable right to bear arms" and due process though?
It seems like he doesn't "love the constitution" as much as he does cheeseburgers.
