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ThcGuy

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You are making my point for me.

In the areas that it works the money and meat goes to the poor people, reservations for animals and the officers to watch them.

You said what 27,000 and 40,000 pounds? You know how much that is to an area like that? Its a lot.

I'm done.
No, you are wrong. I'm not making your point, you think killing ENDANGERED animals is ok if you pay conservationists enough money.

Show me one animal that is currently ENDANGERED in North America that we can pay to hunt.
 

abandonconflict

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I'm done.
You went in a pretty big circle and declared victory. You never even acknowledged the strongest argument against your first post on the subject. You simply cited a bunch of stuff I agree with. I'll admit, you're a classy guy, polite and I'm not arguing against the sort of hunting you do.

The initial argument was that conservation efforts are supported by rich trophy hunters in poor countries. I can respect that you want to quit going in circles with thcguy but let's at least acknowledge that we have taught him something as evidenced by how has shifted the way he is arguing.
 

ThcGuy

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You went in a pretty big circle and declared victory. You never even acknowledged the strongest argument against your first post on the subject. You simply cited a bunch of stuff I agree with. I'll admit, you're a classy guy, polite and I'm not arguing against the sort of hunting you do.

The initial argument was that conservation efforts are supported by rich trophy hunters in poor countries. I can respect that you want to quit going in circles with thcguy but let's at least acknowledge that we have taught him something as evidenced by how has shifted the way he is arguing.
What did you teach me? My entire argument has been it's wrong to kill endangered animals and it still is.
 

whitebb2727

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if i do, my farts the next day are toxic. we're talking smells that should not come from a living human. like death.

they're great for use in baking though according to my wife. and ducks are just plain funny.
I need to get some duck eggs to dutch oven the ole lady.
You went in a pretty big circle and declared victory. You never even acknowledged the strongest argument against your first post on the subject. You simply cited a bunch of stuff I agree with. I'll admit, you're a classy guy, polite and I'm not arguing against the sort of hunting you do.

The initial argument was that conservation efforts are supported by rich trophy hunters in poor countries. I can respect that you want to quit going in circles with thcguy but let's at least acknowledge that we have taught him something as evidenced by how has shifted the way he is arguing.
Ok. I can agree with that.

Thank you for the compliment. Ill say the same to you. I at least enjoyed talking about it without shit flinging.

I did go in a circle. I just wanted people to know that in areas that are not corrupt that hunting pays for conservation that works.

Ill even agree with thcguy and poverty causing poaching.

There is no simple answer. I just know from documentaries and other articles that rich people hunting has paid for huge game reserves that protect animals.

I don't agree with it. Sometimes we have to accept something we don't like for the greater good.
No, you are wrong. I'm not making your point, you think killing ENDANGERED animals is ok if you pay conservationists enough money.

Show me one animal that is currently ENDANGERED in North America that we can pay to hunt.
I'm not wrong. It works.

We will just have to agree to disagree.

Have a good one man.
 

im4satori

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I live outside a state park
every year its all over the local papers about aal the evidence of pouching but it never makes it past the local

bald eagles, elk, dear, bear, bobcats, turkey

nothings hardly actually done about it

we even had a scandal involving park rangers taking money for protected animals

if you got to many turkey its because you've wiped out its predators like bobcats and coyote and raccoon so the answer is to re-populate the other animals to help the enviroment not kill more of them

all this justification for your "sport" is nonsense

it makes about as much sense as killing all the dear to prevent the spread of lyme disease which is transmitted by a tick

how does that make any fucking sense... kill the entire dear population because you got a bunch of ticks....
you silly bastard,, if you didn't kill all the animals that eat the ticks you wouldn't have so many

I eat a small amount of organic cage free meats, yes! and I care about the humane treatment of animals, yes! but that's another subject all together

farm animals being treated humanely has nothing to do with WILD animal population decreasing at an alarming rate

if something doesn't change your future generations might not even have the opportunity to view one of these animals
 

ThcGuy

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I live outside a state park
every year its all over the local papers about aal the evidence of pouching but it never makes it past the local

bald eagles, elk, dear, bear, bobcats, turkey

we even had a scandal involving park rangers taking money for protected animals

if you got to many turkey its because you've wiped out its predators like bobcats and coyote and raccoon so the answer is to re-populate the other animals to help the enviroment not kill more of them

all this justification for your "sport" is nonsense

it makes about as much sense as killing all the dear to prevent the spread of lyme disease which is transmitted by a tick

how does that make any fucking sense... kill the entire dear population because you got a bunch of ticks....
you silly bastard,, if you didn't kill all the animals that eat the ticks you wouldn't have so many

I eat a small amount of organic cage free meats, yes! and I care about the humane treatment of animals, yes! but that's another subject all together

farm animals being treated humanely has nothing to do with WILD animal population decreasing at an alarming rate

if something doesn't change your future generations might not even have the opportunity to view one of these animals
It's spelled Deer not Dear.
 

im4satori

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if the current wildlife management system is working so well

somebody tell me why the bees problem hasn't been solved
 

im4satori

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rodents carry ticks ticks pick up the bacteria from the rodents... predators to the rodent would be coyote for example;;

if theyre was more coyote theyd be less rodents and less ticks carrying lyme bacteria

so lets not stop killing the coyote to control the rodent population,
LETS KILL ALL THE DEAR INSTEAD!...oops I meant DEER lol

that's just fucking stupid
 
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im4satori

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Who hunts Bees? Thats the farmers, municipalities and home owners spraying pesticides/herbacides on crops, weeds and bodies of water.
its all in the big picture

its an environmental issue... we just keep pushing further and further out of balance and we act like we are helping but in most cases we are not
 

abandonconflict

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Husband Convicted of Manslaughter After Dutch Oven Goes ‘Horribly Wrong’
In the culinary world, a Dutch oven is a thick-walled iron cooking pot with a tight-fitting lid. In the common vernacular, however, a “Dutch oven” refers to the crude act of passing gas under the covers in bed and then pulling those covers over the head of the bed’s other occupant, trapping him or her in a foul-smelling air pocket.
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/freakish/dutchoven.asp
 

im4satori

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the killing and consumption of farm animals isn't my issue

my issue and point is the current environmental practices are not making anything better
its just another example of how we are destroying our planet
 
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im4satori

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we all get so intent on getting our biology healthy/balanced either in our root zone or in our reservoirs ...lol but our planet NAH!
 

dagwood45431

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Yea i wasnt sure guess i should do more research was just curious what others thought. I know Putin was against his opponent but thats about it...
This comment bodes well for his character:

During a press conference with Vladimir Putin at the Palace of Versailles in May 2017, he condemned the Russian state media as "lying propaganda."

Trump would never say that in front of his boyfriend Vladdy.
 

Fogdog

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the killing and consumption of animals isn't my issue

my issue and point is the current environmental practices are not making anything better
its just another example of how we are destroying our planet
Legal hunting in the US isn't causing destruction of our planet. Many other causes and resultant global warming is causing extinctions at rates not seen since mankind has been man.

Poaching is a problem in Oregon, I've heard. Not from fact free ditzes but from wildlife experts.

How you conflate neo-nics and other pesticide issues affecting bees with legal deer hunting is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I've seen in an anti-hunting rant.

Your heart is in the right place though your mind doesn't seem to be fully engaged.
 
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