Time to make some opium!

olishell

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Your not going to get anything close to opium doing what you're doing.Opium pods produce a sap which is collected over a period of time and then dried.This sap is collected from literally thousands of pods.Your 15 pods aren't going to be worth your while....oh yeah...You can't ask people's opinion and then dictate what that opinion will be,sooooo Don't mess with opiates.
 

d.c. beard

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Your not going to get anything close to opium doing what you're doing.Opium pods produce a sap which is collected over a period of time and then dried.This sap is collected from literally thousands of pods.Your 15 pods aren't going to be worth your while....oh yeah...You can't ask people's opinion and then dictate what that opinion will be,sooooo Don't mess with opiates.
 

d.c. beard

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FYI peeps the mixture has been in the oven for 13 hours now and has reduced by over half. Smells like nasty incense. Might take it out and let it finish au natural, maybe put a fan on it.
 

worm5376

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Big p I think you got some bunk shit bro. The tea normaly give people the "hold your nose face":lol:
 

Am I Norml

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Our Goal: Obtain opium through dried pod extraction.

Required Materials:

+Poppy Pods*
+Heat Source
+Water (100ml/g by weight)
+Pot for boiling water
+Suitable equipment for hot liquid storage
+Cheesecloth (or similar--coffee filters, silk cloth, etc)
+Funnel
+Pyrex dishes

Optional Materials:
+Electric Oven
+Weakly-acidic solute (lemon juice, lime juice, citric acid, etc)
+Ph Strips

Procedure

Note: This procedure will be explained using poppy material amounting to a total weight of 10 grams. In order to alter the measurements used, follow the simple equation:

100ml water for every gram of poppy material to be used--i.e. 100grams= 10L of water; 50grams=5L of water. This is because every ml of water can only hold so much of the extractable alkaloids. At 100ml, the most amount of alkaloids can be obtained before negligible results occur beyond 100ml.

Step One: Dismantle and grind all pods to be extracted
-Snap the heads from the stems, leaving the node as it also holds opiate alkaloidal content
-Remove seeds from the pod. These can either saved for Poppy Seed Tea or for future gardening purposes.
-Grind/break pods into smallest possible pieces, as more surface area=faster extraction of alkaloids

Step Two: Bring necessary amount of water to a light simmer and then remove the heat.

-Opiate alkaloids dissolve more readily in heat, but also begin to degrade to a low quality at any heat over 80 degrees Celsius. Water boils at 100 degrees Celsius. If you bring your water to a boil, cut the heat and let it sit for a few minutes to cool to ensure it is below this temperature

Step Three: Add acidic solute to the hot water, measure with Ph strips until 6.0 acidity or lower

-This step is optional, as opiate alkaloids already dissolve rather readily in neutral-level Ph water, however:
-Opiate alkaloids dissolve more readily in slightly acidic water. 6.5 is sufficient, but it never hurts to be extra careful

Step Four: Distribute pods into their corresponding storage containers and add the appropriate amount of water.

-Old alcohol fifths and half-gallons work well because they are made of glass and can hold a respectable amount of material
-Caution: Container will get hot, so please use proper protection


Step Five: Seal containers and shake the mixture occasionally. Do this for as long as you see fit.

-I just shook them every couple of minutes, whenever the thought crossed my mind while watching television or whatever.
-One hour is sufficient to extract most of the alkaloids out, but the longer the mixture sits, the more saturated with alkaloids the water will become. I usually leave it soaked and shaking it for a few days to be sure to get as much as possible.
-The solution should obtain a dark amber/brown color once a large amount of the alkaloids have been extracted.

Step Six: Place Funnel in/over empty container/dish, lay an overlapped piece of Cheesecloth over the top of the Funnel. Pour Poppy mixture into Cheesecloth.

-Once all the water has been filtered, squeeze excess from shavings lying in the cheesecloth. Save these and all shavings as they can be re-soaked and extract the remaining alkaloids from them. For this, just use 1/2 to 2/3 as much water as the first solution. Will not be as potent as the first extraction but can add to the overall final product.
-If one wishes, they can end the process here if waiting does not sound appealing. This is what one might refer to as "Poppy Tea". Dosage will be discussed shortly, so keep reading.

Step Seven: Allow mixture to cool to room temperature and transfer to evaporation dishes. Leave water to evaporate, will take days-weeks depending on methods used--sun-drying on a window sill is best for high yield of endproduct, but may take some time.

-OPTIONAL: If you have access to an electric oven, preheat it between 40-60 degrees celsius and place the dishes--uncovered--inside and allow them ample time to evap. Once most of the water has been removed, remove the pans and sun-dry the rest of the way, as previously mentioned.
-Once most of the water has been removed, the solution will look like a dark, sticky mud-like substance. One can end the evap process whenever they feel their product is sufficiently stiff. This is the "cooked opium" one would want to obtain.
-If all of the water is allowed to evaporate, one will be left with a flake-like substance that will flick off into nothingness if not carefully scraped together. This end product is what one should strive to achieve if they wish to be able to smoke their opium instead of simple ingesting it (will be explained further shortly).

Step Eight: scrape together and roll the final tar-like product into a ball/rod depending on how much end product one has obtained Congratulations, you now have 100% natural opium, no chemicals, fillers, nothing.

The amount of endproduct one could hope to achieve can vary depending on precision of the extraction. A high yield endproduct could be expected to be approximately 1/10 of the weight of pod material used, varying slightly more or slightly less. On average 0.7-0.9 is considered a good endproduct.


DOSING NOTES:

For those questioning how much of their product they must use to obtain an enjoyable high, here is a quick-referce guide. This is based on zero tolerances, so one must adjust accordingly.

-Poppy Tea: Anywhere from 4-10grams worth of pod tea (~400ml-~1L) could be a sufficient dose because the tea can vary so much due to potency/strain of the poppy pod used. It is recommended to start slowly with only 5-6grams, allow 30-45 for onset, and titrate up to an enjoyable amount in increments.
-Ingesting: Approximately 1/3-1/2gram is more than sufficient. Be careful in the amount taken as more can always be redosed, but it cannot be taken away if one takes too much.
-Smoking: The flake opium can be smoking similar to how one smokes heroin, by "chasing the dragon". A matchhead-sized ball is sufficient to try, approximately .1-.2g. Smoking is an almost-immediate onset of effects so dosage can be much more easily decided.

And remember everyone, this may seem simple and easy. It is. That doesn't mean it should be looked at as any lesser than the multitudes of other opiates out there. IT IS ADDICTIVE. IT IS POSSIBLE and simple TO OVERDOSE ON. take all precautions you would with any other drug and be sure to give this one the respect it deserves. Have fun and be safe!

*DISCLAIMER: I do not condone drugs. I do not encourage drugs. And I certainly do not interact with drugs of any kind. Drugs are bad, mkay? :-P
 

donthatetaylor

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yo what i did is after i let most of the water disapate in the oven i put the rest under a heat lamp surrounded by foil. made it nice and crispy. if your gonna smoke it the best way is to make sure that you spread it really thin to make it flakey. the little black balls of goo don't light to well.

something i want to try is to add a tiny bit of water just enough to get it syrupy and then dip my buds in it and let them dry. about to do this with the last bit of my product. i'll get back to you about it.

by the way don't you love people who act like they know more then fucking god about poppies. there is so little info and every ass whole that read a thread or two about them thinks they know it all. i have personally been smoking this shit for the past two or three weeks. if you think this doesn't work then you are fucking RETARDED. maybe you tried and were to stupid to make it work. its probably the easiest extraction i've ever done. So, haters be gone with you. you know nothing and are arguing with people who are currently actually using/ experimenting to do better things with this product.
 

Am I Norml

Active Member
yo what i did is after i let most of the water disapate in the oven i put the rest under a heat lamp surrounded by foil. made it nice and crispy. if your gonna smoke it the best way is to make sure that you spread it really thin to make it flakey. the little black balls of goo don't light to well.

something i want to try is to add a tiny bit of water just enough to get it syrupy and then dip my buds in it and let them dry. about to do this with the last bit of my product. i'll get back to you about it.

by the way don't you love people who act like they know more then fucking god about poppies. there is so little info and every ass whole that read a thread or two about them thinks they know it all. i have personally been smoking this shit for the past two or three weeks. if you think this doesn't work then you are fucking RETARDED. maybe you tried and were to stupid to make it work. its probably the easiest extraction i've ever done. So, haters be gone with you. you know nothing and are arguing with people who are currently actually using/ experimenting to do better things with this product.
sorry man was just trying to help out :-(
 

ndangerspecimen101

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This is quite an interesting thread! Hope all the best in your efforts...

Personally, I have no clue about opiates but will light a candle and open the vaults of erowid very soon ;)
 

worm5376

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Am I Norml: he wasn't talking to you bud;)

Ndanger : if you do venture make sure you buy the right pods illustrated by Big P's buy :(
Good to see you bud :)
 
Sorry to say guys but your not getting opium. You can only get that by scoreing live pods and getting the sap that comes out. This stuff is no where near the strengh of opium. Plant the seeds that were in your pod this spring. I made this stuff a bunch to kick a bad pill habit. I think you guys are cooking it too hot for too long and if your going for the goo(I couldn't take the tea) no need for so much water. What I did was just blend pods boil between 1- 3 cups of water then take it off heat and put the pods in there and let it set for about an hour. I found the best way to get the water off is the sun.I know you said that ya didn't want any of this in here but it needs to be said alot this can kill you Take it from a former addict of opties who can't spell it all starts small with stuff like this and I thank god everyday that I got away from it

Disclamer This is for informational purposes only!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

donthatetaylor

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sorry man was just trying to help out :-(
not you dude. sorry if you thought that. i just hate random people coming in a thread and interrupting good conversation just to say "you guys don't know what your talking about."

dont worry dude. i don't hate on people like that.
 

donthatetaylor

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Lead me worm to the pod source ;)

pm!
damn dude your message box is full, but this has already been posted twice so i'll just throw it out there again.

sundriedpoppies.com

they worked rather well for me. they came with seeds inside too which i though was a plus.

oh and yes i do know that this isn't really opium. its pod putty. for it to be opium it has to be the white latex sap that comes only from living pods. oxidation turns it a darker color for those of you who where about to attack me and say opium isn't white.
 

d.c. beard

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by the way don't you love people who act like they know more then fucking god about poppies. there is so little info and every ass whole that read a thread or two about them thinks they know it all. i have personally been smoking this shit for the past two or three weeks. if you think this doesn't work then you are fucking RETARDED. maybe you tried and were to stupid to make it work. its probably the easiest extraction i've ever done. So, haters be gone with you. you know nothing and are arguing with people who are currently actually using/ experimenting to do better things with this product.
Sing it loud brotha! haha Bunch of r-tards. Yeah it's not opium, but it still definitely gets you high like it. And I've had a bad habit before too, so yeah we don't need no preaching.

Or I don't know, maybe Don and I are just trippin and this shit's totally bunk. We're both obviously amateurs here. What do we know. :rolleyes:
 

d.c. beard

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Okay, so let me tell everyone who might be wanting to do this fuck the stove for drying out/reducing the mixture, it takes WAY too long and all I could think about was dollar signs blowing out the window cause a stove pulls mega watts. What works a hell of a lot better (it's quicker and doesn't make the whole house smell like you were burning incense made out of dried up dog shit, actually it smells like burning plastic almost) is just put it in a wide, flat baking dish and just let it sit with a fan blowing over it on high. Uses WAY less electricity and actually works a good bit faster too. No smell is a HUGE plus too let me tell ya.

So last night I ladled off a small bit from the 'motherload' as I call it, put it in another smaller baking dish, and set it right in front of the fan with the rest. This smaller portion only took about an hour to dry up. Had to add just a dash of vodka to it to be able to scape it up, and I first rubbed some herb in it and got it all soaked with the mix. Then as the vodka was starting to dry up again I scraped up a bunch and made a little ball out of it, prob like a .3 gram wad. We smoked 2 bongloads of the soaked herb mix, and then I packed a bong with herb and put the putty ball on top after I had squished it flat as can be to make it thin. After smoking the 3 bongs we were feeling pretty good for sure.

I found the buzz to be very morphine-like, but with this energetic edge to it like there was a bit of speed in it. I guess it's the Thebaine or whatever. Kinda makes you feel a bit floaty and detached, I got a little giggly for some reason, and of course it has a morphine-like opiate buzz which is the best part. Lasted for several hours until I went to bed.

So the motherload's almost done now, going to try to scrape it up and roll it into a finger or bar or something.

I feel like smoking it might actually make worse use of it than eating it, although the buzz hits almost immediately. P, have you tried just eating small amounts of it? How does that compare?
 

worm5376

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I have not tried peronsaly eating it but I would guess it could work. It contains the same key akaloids as the tea;)
 
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