Time to harvest, or maganese def?

Bsmoke78

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Still got a lot white hairs but you definitely got some kind of Nute problem, and you needed more light it looks like colas reached. Don’t know just my opinion. Hope works out!
 

Nm5862

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Yea I'm realllly leaning towards manganese. I have some cultivation nation flower I'm gunna throw in and see if that helps next watering (tomorrow or the next day) The white hairs threw me too but some people said that its ready to harvest. I dont seen any amber so.

My light should be fine. I have two ts1000s in a 2x2x6 haha.
 

go go kid

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yes, flush.
what percentage of nitrogen have you been feeding them, or what NPK plant food and what wattage light have out of interest
 

Nm5862

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I'd chop it when all the trichs are cloudy and maybe a few amber. Those leaves are f'ed up from a little nute overload but not too bad. You're the 2nd guy in two days to bring up Mn deficiency. That's incredibly rare and highly unlikely.

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The thing that makes me think manganese is the brown spots. I dont see any other defs like that. But yea I'm gunna just flush her later this week. The weird thing is, I didnt change anything with my nutrients... And before two days ago, there was no problem, and I just fed them big bloom and the dry dressing of happy frog fruit flower, which is why i was wondering if the plant is just dying now.

Oh well, I started with 3, 2 bags seeds an then the 1 auto.
Strange grow.
 

Nm5862

Member
yes, flush.
what percentage of nitrogen have you been feeding them, or what NPK plant food and what wattage light have out of interest
I've been giving happy frog fruit and flower since about a week before they flowered, then kangaroots every 3 weeks or so. I use a light amount of big bloom every watering, and calmag every 3 waterings.
My plant has been health before this, if you look In my history you'll see other photos of it.. tbis happened within the last 2ish days...
So idk.


I'm using two ts1000s at 40% each.
 

OldMedUser

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You have a Ca deficiency, as @OldMedUser said Mn def is rare. Just give her some Ca and get through to the end.
Personally I don't think there's any deficiency at all. What I'm seeing is something I've seen many times in my own plants. Toxic salts buildup from an overabundance of nutes for quite a while and shows up mid to late flower. The leaves are basically cooking from the inside and it will continue to progress until even the tiny bud leaves go like that. No amount of flushing will stop it but flushing out most of the nutes at this stage will slow the progress.

I'd be chopping sooner than later.

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Nm5862

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Personally I don't think there's any deficiency at all. What I'm seeing is something I've seen many times in my own plants. Toxic salts buildup from an overabundance of nutes for quite a while and shows up mid to late flower. The leaves are basically cooking from the inside and it will continue to progress until even the tiny bud leaves go like that. No amount of flushing will stop it but flushing out most of the nutes at this stage will slow the progress.

I'd be chopping sooner than later.

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I'm going to flush the tits off her today since its watering day. When would you suggest I should give the 48 hours of dark and then chop?
 

Nm5862

Member
Personally I don't think there's any deficiency at all. What I'm seeing is something I've seen many times in my own plants. Toxic salts buildup from an overabundance of nutes for quite a while and shows up mid to late flower. The leaves are basically cooking from the inside and it will continue to progress until even the tiny bud leaves go like that. No amount of flushing will stop it but flushing out most of the nutes at this stage will slow the progress.

I'd be chopping sooner than later.

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Also the strange thing is I was light on nutrients.
The only thing i can think is that the dry fert I used (happy frog fruit and flower) has a delayed release and some of it is just dumpinnnnngg nutrients now.
 

OldMedUser

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I'm going to flush the tits off her today since its watering day. When would you suggest I should give the 48 hours of dark and then chop?
I don't believe in that 48 - 72 hour dark BS. Just more bro-science. I chop in stages so don't ever flush but just give RO water the last couple weeks. If my old fan leaves are yellowing then I know the plants aren't overloaded with nutes as they are having to steal from the old leaves. Flushing only removes nutrients from the root zone and takes nothing from the plants. I may add some Epsom Salts and a little bit of K but nothing else.

The trichs I can see in your pics look all nice and cloudy which is peak THC time. As they amber THC breaks down to CBN which helps with sleep and the couch-lock effect but THC breaks down after the cropping too so waiting extra weeks for amber is a waste of resources IMO. Leave the buds in a sunny window if you want them to amber up fast after cropping.

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