TileMasters 1000w 9 plants*mixed strains from clone*medigrow

just got off the phone with my hydrofarm vendor..quotes placed.. 950. not bad..that doesnt include all the poly studs and sheetrock ive got up..nor the dirt, buckets, and some vent pipe i need. ill probably be towards 2k in reinvestments in remodels by the time im up again.. strains will be some afgoo..blueberry..trainwrek..hdf..rough list right now...

as far as electrical..i did add some breakers and 10.2 lines and outlets while back.. ill be switching that around just slightly .. 240vac master light controllers are simply where its at if u have 3 or more lights.

I got one of these and I LOVE IT!!!!

how much wuz that setup? and how does it work..do u feed it of a 30amp?

tilemaster said:

how much wuz that setup?

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$360 plus S&H...

and how does it work..

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A relay connected to a timer acts as a switch for the lights...

One simple timer can control up to 8 lights...

do u feed it of a 30amp?

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I feed it from the old range outlet, so I went with the 50 amp box, but they do make a 30 amp as well...

Totally worth it's weight in gold... no more fire hazzard with big lights and fans connected to flimsy plastic timers...

A relay is like a switch, but instead of your hand throwing the switch, electricity does it...

When the 110v cord gets energy, it throws the switch and turns the 220v system on..

So the timer only carries miliamps, to activate the relay.. safe and easy...

yeah thats def way togo for peace of mind..and for cutting down on the amps your drawing..im in with ya..except im going with a 4plug 240vac cap controller..little less expensive..

tilemaster said:

...and for cutting down on the amps your drawing...

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But it does not cut down at all...

It cuts down how many amps each wire is carrying, but you are still drawing the same exact amount of energy...

Same exact draw... same exact power bill...

ahhh lightens the load on ur wires..

Yeah.. it's all a math game... the power used by the lights or fans is still the same...

tilemaster said:

just got off the phone with my hydrofarm vendor..quotes placed.. 950. not bad..that doesnt include all the poly studs and sheetrock ive got up..nor the dirt, buckets, and some vent pipe i need. ill probably be towards 2k in reinvestments in remodels by the time im up again.. strains will be some afgoo..blueberry..trainwrek..hdf..rough list right now...

as far as electrical..i did add some breakers and 10.2 lines and outlets while back.. ill be switching that around just slightly .. 240vac master light controllers are simply where its at if u have 3 or more lights.

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i hope your Afghoo turns out like this stuff

yum that shit looks good..

ya Gypsy i worked all my aperage out on paper..i can run my lights as is now..but i want that master control itll calm things down.. cant wait to get this new 1 under way but it might have to wait till next week truly. but never the less it wont ding me too bad considering im picking clones up worthy of 0 veg time.. maybe a 1 day veg then 36 hour lights off time..shit maybe dark immediatly ... im gonna start doing a perpetual...tossing clones in each week.. ill fine tune it 1 day

Why do you put your clones in the dark?

And yeah.. my rotation got screwed up at first cause I couldn't clone to save my life... but I started with Al's 2 week rotation..

Then with the runts being removed... and replaced...

It just kinda worked out that way... some were chopped a little early, some a little late...

and now I have it sorta all right...

i dont but ive heard of people doing that be4 they flip to 12 12..i figured it would save me some money ....and give me some time to make the final reperations..idunno wuz jsut a thought..


yeah bro ill have to check out als methods.. till then..im just gonna throw some large clones in2 flower like 15-20 of em next week.. then all the runts can go in my veg room ...anther 10-15 clones..under the 400MH. i also have a blueberry mother in there..and a widow..plus a blue heaven im tryn to reveg..and some seedlings i started.

You got a lot going on... nice shit too...

You'll figure it out...

I have gotten to a point where I have a 400w T-5 fot the moms and I just refuse to do any other veging... even my clones are in the "washed out" light from the moms...

My dream grow is like MBlaze's... but I would have to go at least 6 months without a harvest... I just cannot justify lights on that long with no buds when I get a zip a day now and fixing to improve on that number.... zero veg... (other than the moms...)

how much longer are you curing everything?

i dont plan on running mothers at all... ill prolly end up cutting 2 to 3 clones per girl i have going now right before i start flowering... once i see what girls are the biggest yielders ill strip down the coresponding cloned vegged girls just for more clones.. that way i can fill my garden or whatever with the heaviest yielding clones i have... then all i have to do is take a couple clones per plant every harvest and ill always have a garden with the heaviest yielding clones from the original mother... without haveing to keep the uptake of and actual mother plant... make sense???

yeah TM.. i was trying to tell you that 240v will just lighten the load on the breaker and wire by splitting the power consumption between 2 breakers and 2 wires... or at least i meant to tell you.. maybe i thought i did but didnt.. fuck me.. now i am lost and feel stupid.. LOL


i figure itll take about 3 or 4 harvests with our new setups to each get things down to a science.. i mean.. running one crop from start to finish in the same room is easy shit.. but timing is what is gonna fuck me up.. trying to time it so the clones root just in time to go to the veg room as the vegged plants move to flowering.. when to take the clones... how long ill veg.. all that crazy fun shit! i think you'll be much better off cause your using dirt.. so you can move your pots around and shit still.. my pots are now stationary.. where they are is where they are until i decide to, if i decide to, rearrange the setup... i had to tape the lines on the hydro system down because it gravity fills so i have to make sure the lines are flat to keep them flowing freely...

anyways... shits coming along bro.. the light at the end of the tunnel is ALMOST there.. just a little few day push and your done! be up and ready for round 2 REAL shortly!

Hey Gypsy..ya i need to tune in2 ur journal..check that huge hydro setup out..i seen pics of it once its plant mahem.. i truly played with ur numbers and if u can improve on a zip per day ur the man..thats a lot as is.. especially on the 31 month days......

GypsyBush said:

You got a lot going on... nice shit too...

You'll figure it out...

I have gotten to a point where I have a 400w T-5 fot the moms and I just refuse to do any other veging... even my clones are in the "washed out" light from the moms...

My dream grow is like MBlaze's... but I would have to go at least 6 months without a harvest... I just cannot justify lights on that long with no buds when I get a zip a day now and fixing to improve on that number.... zero veg... (other than the moms...)

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there still hanging wut, 3days so far..some are almost smokable it appears this morning.. mines going in2 jars ...yet all the commercail patient stuff..going right off the rack right in2 the wallet..sorry guys dont have time this time to cure everything..just mine..

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how much longer are you curing everything?

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You did tell me about the amerage not lowering my bill... i guess i just took it in 1 ear and out the other..didnt wanna believe it.. wanted the bill to go down..but with this new revelation..i might even wait on the master lighting timer..i have the independent timers to do it..and my wiring is safe right now from my 2x 20amps breakers ive installed plus there backed with 10/2..so whenever i make the switch itll be easy. Im not by any means gonna make my thur fri deadline of back up and running. flower room and veg room are fully built in now. thats good. but i need 1k of shit from hydrofarm.. also need to still install complete veg and flower room intake and exhaust. im back to the under the floor idea.. the crawl space has like 7 basement windows with screens.. im undecided but im either gonna run 25 ft of 6'' over to a basement window and up out my subfloor right in2 the flower room...or ill just pluge a 6'' hole down to the crawls space and just exhaust that room into the flower and veg room, i figure with all those open windows down there i might not have to run the flex all the way to the window itself..just suck all the air out of the crawl space and it has to fill itself back up thro the windows and negitive pressure. then a Y on the vent so it can split off to the veg room. ahh shits frustrating tryn to get it all done with no money and shit hanging..good thing is say i lose a week and a half.. im picking up those clones. my buddy wants like 35 ea for these large clones he normally charges 50-100 for. there huge. well im thinking of grabbing 15 of those..and 15 normal size dispensery clones for a little less. throw the big 1's in2 flower and all the runts can veg out.. this will cost like 5 bills..but hes gonna front me for 60days, and i figure i wont have to do this again...since when the bud room is done..be4 moving the veg room over ill take copious amounts of clones..then itll be perpetual.. so this should speed the game up expenentially

simpsonsampson420 said:

i dont plan on running mothers at all... ill prolly end up cutting 2 to 3 clones per girl i have going now right before i start flowering... once i see what girls are the biggest yielders ill strip down the coresponding cloned vegged girls just for more clones.. that way i can fill my garden or whatever with the heaviest yielding clones i have... then all i have to do is take a couple clones per plant every harvest and ill always have a garden with the heaviest yielding clones from the original mother... without haveing to keep the uptake of and actual mother plant... make sense???

yeah TM.. i was trying to tell you that 240v will just lighten the load on the breaker and wire by splitting the power consumption between 2 breakers and 2 wires... or at least i meant to tell you.. maybe i thought i did but didnt.. fuck me.. now i am lost and feel stupid.. LOL


i figure itll take about 3 or 4 harvests with our new setups to each get things down to a science.. i mean.. running one crop from start to finish in the same room is easy shit.. but timing is what is gonna fuck me up.. trying to time it so the clones root just in time to go to the veg room as the vegged plants move to flowering.. when to take the clones... how long ill veg.. all that crazy fun shit! i think you'll be much better off cause your using dirt.. so you can move your pots around and shit still.. my pots are now stationary.. where they are is where they are until i decide to, if i decide to, rearrange the setup... i had to tape the lines on the hydro system down because it gravity fills so i have to make sure the lines are flat to keep them flowing freely...

anyways... shits coming along bro.. the light at the end of the tunnel is ALMOST there.. just a little few day push and your done! be up and ready for round 2 REAL shortly!

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im also pondering weather i can use pvc 6'' in place of furnace 6'' venting..for stubbing thro in2 attic and from subfloor. it would be cheaper i think to find a pvc pipe...and make the 3 cuts i need or so ..for the venting to attach flex to this..but i dont know if its rated for heat..but i imagine its not gonna be major heat. if any1 has any ideas hit me up.. i got a jig several circular 6 in holes.. one for intake...and two more for exhaust..plust thro a couple of walls too....lot of venting going in ..need ideas TM

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im also pondering weather i can use pvc 6'' in place of furnace 6'' venting..for stubbing thro in2 attic and from subfloor. it would be cheaper i think to find a pvc pipe...and make the 3 cuts i need or so ..for the venting to attach flex to this..but i dont know if its rated for heat..but i imagine its not gonna be major heat. if any1 has any ideas hit me up.. i got a jig several circular 6 in holes.. one for intake...and two more for exhaust..plust thro a couple of walls too....lot of venting going in ..need ideas TM

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I think it would work...Its not like the air as that hot...

I think the PVC is more durable for the longterm.

you should try doing some Grape Ape TM

well room is up minus a few things still...lot more done tho..my boy is sweating me bout picking up the clones ..try to get these rooms done.. ive cut some items off my list just to get it there faster with money i dont have.. master controller will have to wait...

gonna buy 1 more 1k hps tommorow..and the air cool 4'' kits for all 3..and a extra lens.. working on vents after lunch..maybe theyll be pvc have to see wuts the hardware store has...