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Grow it and roll it!

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It depends I think from case to case, but when I topped my Sativa I noticed results very quickly. I'd like to say within a week? My timing might be off though.
 

GreenphoeniX

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you can top in early flower with out a problem. i'm not sure what's funny actually ... I've taken clones from plants 4 weeks into flowering with no problems, sure they take longer to root coz they have to revert their hormones to veg first, but it still works just as good as anything else. And a 1 inch clone is plenty big enough. Most people I see take clones that are too big in my opinion, smaller clones tend to root quicker and once growing are as good as any other clones, but they use less room so you can have more of them.

however, topping wont produce "more yield" it just splits the cola's, instead of 1 cola, you will have 2 somewhat smaller cola's..
That depends on strain, some strains will produce 2 half sized cola's, some strains will produce 2 FULL sized colas, if you find a strain/pheno that does this AND produces good smoke, KEEP IT! CLONE IT! They're freakin hard to find these days with all these crap skunk hybrids everywhere!

People are too impatient, they want a plant that matures in 6-8 weeks and has a big yield, grow a haze mate, small yield and 14 weeks of flowering, but if you've never smoked it before, the buzz will BLOW YOUR MIND! It's the kind of psychodelic buzz that is getting lost because the plants don't meet the high yield demand of the crap commercial market.

Who doesn't like topping? Coz this plant untopped barely produced an ounce! What the fuck do I want with a plant that only produces 1 fukn ounce? But she sure loved being topped, boosted her up to 7 ounces with once 2 weeks extra veg.

People who criticize are obviously doing something wrong or need some new plants hahaha

P.S - That plant is in a 20 Litre bucket, just so you have an idea of size ratio
 
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Grow it and roll it!

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Very nice Green! That's an incredible lady you have there.:o And I guess the funny part of this whole thing is that I topped my plant and cloned the top. Maybe it's funnier for me to see because it's sooo tiny, but that might just be my inexperience. I'm glad to see some tangible evidence that topping isn't the horrible thing some people make it out to be.
 

bbqchip

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you can top in early flower with out a problem. i'm not sure what's funny actually ... I've taken clones from plants 4 weeks into flowering with no problems, sure they take longer to root coz they have to revert their hormones to veg first, but it still works just as good as anything else. And a 1 inch clone is plenty big enough. Most people I see take clones that are too big in my opinion, smaller clones tend to root quicker and once growing are as good as any other clones, but they use less room so you can have more of them.


That depends on strain, some strains will produce 2 half sized cola's, some strains will produce 2 FULL sized colas, if you find a strain/pheno that does this AND produces good smoke, KEEP IT! CLONE IT! They're freakin hard to find these days with all these crap skunk hybrids everywhere!

People are too impatient, they want a plant that matures in 6-8 weeks and has a big yield, grow a haze mate, small yield and 14 weeks of flowering, but if you've never smoked it before, the buzz will BLOW YOUR MIND! It's the kind of psychodelic buzz that is getting lost because the plants don't meet the high yield demand of the crap commercial market.

Who doesn't like topping? Coz this plant untopped barely produced an ounce! What the fuck do I want with a plant that only produces 1 fukn ounce? But she sure loved being topped, boosted her up to 7 ounces with once 2 weeks extra veg.

People who criticize are obviously doing something wrong or need some new plants hahaha
is that just from topping it once?
 

GreenphoeniX

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From memory (which is a little impaired after smoking all that shit! hahaha) I topped that girl 3 times over the course of a month. Was vegged for 1 month (4 weeks) from clone under a 400W MH and then flowered for a few days longer than 8 weeks (HPS). That picture is taken about 6 and half weeks into flowering, so still had a week and a half to go at that stage.
 

reefcouple

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i would have to guess, 4 or 5 toppings, its hard to get an accurate count on the colas.. either way it looks great...
 

GreenphoeniX

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Yea I never did count the colas, I regret not getting a shot of the stem once all the buds had been cut away from it, it look quite intriguing. You can't count the colas in the pic because it's a rounded plant so you cant see the back ones or the ones facing the front, but at harvest there was a gap around the centre of the plant because all the lower branches were sagging toward the ground on a count o they couldn't hold their own weight hahaha, was a fun harvest but took a long time!
 

reefcouple

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i wish i could draw it out for u, it would be alot easier...

but, when ya top a plant and it grows two more tops, ya top those two, and so on and so on... what ya end up with is illistrated above if done right, a bushy plant with many mid sized colas... great for space saving...
 

zeke907

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you are right... they say you can even successfully clone a plant in its first week or two of flowering... but,, my goal is minimal stress during flowering.. think of it this way.. the more you stress a plant in flowering the more the growth is stunted.. the more the growth is stunted (during flowering) the longer it will take for the buds to become mature.
you know when you buy seeds it tells you flowering time? well thats only accurate under ideal conditions with no stress... is it worth it then? i dont think so,, stress the plant minimally in veg,, get it done and over with then while it doesnt really matter... not to mention stressing a female in flowering will increase the chance of hermaphroditism.
I took clone cuttings off my plants one week into 12/12 or so, just after they showed sex, they were female, and now they are gonna go into flowering in two weeks, when my others finish. They have done just fine, and almost all of them rooted well, two didnt have strong roots so I tossed them. And the plants I took the cuttings from turned out fine so far, actually might fine. I also topped a couple of my plants, and didn't top the others, and IMO I would say I will never top again. It looks nice, but the colas are much smaller for me on the topped plant. I think I will get close to the same amount as far as yield is concerned. Maybe a bit less on the topped plant. But I prefer one fat nice cola, not a few smaller ones. And even my untopped plant has alot of smaller lower branch colas that are damn near as big as my main colas on the topped plant. Well that's my 15 mins of fame. Sorry for the story. Hope it helps. Peace:blsmoke::peace:
 

GreenphoeniX

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Man, to try topping once and then say you'll never to it again is a very bad idea and is a bit ignorant. However if you really don't like topping, why not try LST
 

Grow it and roll it!

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Well I'm glad those plant cuttings you took during the flowering stage came out fine Zeke, proving that mine has a very good chance, regardless of what some people have said... Again, we all have our personal preferences.. some like huge main colas, others like smaller, more numerous buds.. To each their own right?
 

GreenphoeniX

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These clones are about 1, maybe 1 and half weeks old. They're taken from a plant that was 4 weeks into flowering (8 week strain - so halfway through flowering)


 

GreenphoeniX

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Cheers mate. Don't get me wrong, I'd usually clone during veg, coz it IS easier, but who doesn't love doing all those things people tell you, you can't do AHAHAHA.

And as reef said, can be done in an aero system, i've also done it in a bubbler (basic hydro) system and (as shown above) in soil. I don't tend to use a bubbler at certain times of the year because it easily cause rot (something to do with water/air temp)
 

misshestermoffitt

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I read somewhere that topping aplant during flowering reduces the amount of THC it produces. Personally from growing all sorts of things other than pot, topping keeps the plant shorter and makes it bushier. Topping encourages growth not only from the place you cut, but from lower regions as well.

I'm fresh into my first grow and have 4 plants. I think I'm going to do some experiementing with them I'll top two, one just a couple of times and one a bunch of times, LST one, and one is going outside when the equinox hits to go ahead and flower. It'll be an LST plant as well.

It'll be interesting to make the comparisons.
 

Grow it and roll it!

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Exactly Green, when people started talkin shit about topping in here, it just made me want to top even more haha. But anyway, I'm glad we could inspire you to try training your plants misshester! Thanks for all the replies peeps.

peace, love, and pot:peace:
 

bleezyg420

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so I'm not too far in that it would hurt bud production, at least in my opinion.
actually im sry to say, but you fucked you self over. That is HIGH STRESS TRAINING, shes going to heal her self, instead of using that energy in the first huge growth spurt.. and as for topping, lst and super croping is the way to go, less stress full, and you can literally produce all tops. Just make them all compete, so keep them all level. IT takes practice to prefect, but its definitely the best way to grow. At least for me.
 
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