bazoomer
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Funny that, I've just took a fresh batch...yeh he seemed to love popping the pills did you manage to get a grow of the gg4 when it was going around hopefully baz sees this and send me a message
The UK Growers Thread!
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Liamp1603
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Is that a hps light ? I'm trying to convince a friend to take a tent and 2 hps and grow at there's but the thought of an expensive light is off putting for them
I tell her all this but she doesn't smoke it so doesn't see the advantages ... a 2x4 and one light is the way forward I just don't see the prices coming down we've got used to the cost of living in general prices ... then the diesel went up and it's now normal to be paying 1.80 now the electric is going up as soon as we're used to it summit else will just seem to be gettin the life slowly squeezed out of us by the government
Pompeygrow
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it must be a sign brother lol
Pompeygrow
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yeh m8 just an hps dimable ballast leds do look good but i need the heat of the hps cos im in a shed
Liamp1603
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How you find it thru the winter ?
Pompeygrow
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yeh not bad its all been plyed and insulated ect and if it gets taht cold i have an oil filled radiator in there
Mastergrow
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Do u think it's still as good as it was baz or is it a bit watered down over the years?
GreenestBasterd
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Mainly Bluchi and a few OG chocolope haze.
Most of the bluchi seedlings reek and they’re tiny.
fingers crossed for some ladies in the bunch…
Most of the bluchi seedlings reek and they’re tiny.
fingers crossed for some ladies in the bunch…
Liamp1603
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I listened to a podcast that said ... genetics don't diminish over time on there own it's more likely the plant has picked up viruses that we cannot see that's why they get less vigourous and so on .... Carn remember what podcast tho think it might have been first smoke of the day ... just wondered what's everyone's opinion on this ??
speedwell68
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I'd agree with that.
Star Dog
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I vaguely remember reading something to do with keeping mother plants, it went on about cell division not being infinite, apparently repeatedly taking clones for a new mom isn't the same as keeping a old mum because they diminish?
Idk if there's a word of truth in that but I thought it was the reason for 5/10 year old mums?
speedwell68
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I always flowered the mother each time and took clones from the clones. I had a Shiva Shanti 2 clone going for years with zero issues.
Star Dog
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Why do think it is breeders keep the original mum and dads?
Of course that could just be a myth to lol.
Liamp1603
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So a clone from clone grow ? every time you grow one out , clone it for the next run keeps the vigour ? We're behind over in the Uk the tissue culture programmes they got in America and legal countries make it a whole lot easier to keep plants what they're meant to be health wise .... maybe within ten years we will have a legal Rec market
Star Dog
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No i think it was claiming the opposite, if you keep a mother for a years you allegedly maintain the vigor and if you keep cloning repeating it'll loose vigor.
There's so much nonsense around weed it's difficult to take anything seriously.
Liamp1603
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ahh right it's a knife edge subject with most parts of cannabis ..... people feel strongly about whatever side they sit on which is good in a way
bazoomer
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Nice to see you MG, well a clones a clone, you get a tolerance to owt you puffed for years, the plants the same, always vigorous and produced the same. You want anything mate ?
Star Dog
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The oldest i have is two years old come November I've re cloned it a few times and it's still good to go.
I've one i re potted in back February and I've just kept trimming it back, to clone from that just now would be less than ideal imo.
And another that i re potted at the same time but I've cut back to the wood regularly.
Lots of variables appear that affect the outcome, we'd all need to know all the fine details of the alleged dwindling genetics, not to mention the ability of the grower.
I've not found age to make any difference to vigor if I put the effort in before re cloning them.
I've one i re potted in back February and I've just kept trimming it back, to clone from that just now would be less than ideal imo.
And another that i re potted at the same time but I've cut back to the wood regularly.
Lots of variables appear that affect the outcome, we'd all need to know all the fine details of the alleged dwindling genetics, not to mention the ability of the grower.
I've not found age to make any difference to vigor if I put the effort in before re cloning them.
A bit of both i suppose i feel most will be linked to pathogens however like people plants have a lifespan dna has more errors as we age etc that being said cheese is 30+ romulan is way older if its the original cut i guess some lines lend themselves to it more than others as for clone of a clone same thing i think most of the time u can get away with it but maybe not with everything eventually it will pick up something or fizzle out without pathogens it could live a very long time id bet though