The UK Growers Thread!

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well i am glad it's not just limited to my weirdo nephew!!

It's just a hunting game on the pc No chance i'd sit around watching youtube video's of someone playing a game, but i do wath a video such as that to see what the game looks like etc, little different to watching a video review etc. My brother does that whole watching people play thing, he's always logged in watching counter strike tournament matches as they're played. And i thought obsessing over a footie match on the tele was sad, he sets a whole new standard



In the meantime though, have you played any of black mesa (thinks that's what it's called) basically a bunch of folk who have re-done the entire of halflife 1 with new graphics and physics.

 

[jimmygreenfingers]

Yeah my last rig had a q6600 quad core and i cant remember the gfx card but something like the 9800gt, it was a few years old by the time we parted company it played most games but there was some lag. Ive been thinking of going sli but really need to do some research as its been a while since i was into all that, i just want a rig thats gonna play any game and still be half decent in a year or two.

 

[tip top toker]

Well i'll see how i go lol, ive done a few upgrades to PCs in the past but as for building one from scratch no. Just seems like a better approach to buying a pebuilt one, i reckon for around 12-1500 i should be able to have something pretty good that aint gonna be outdated in a year or two.

Outdated is a debatable notion. Yes it is outdated in that they release new hardware every month, but not outdated in it's capability. The internals of my main computer is at least 5 years old, and it was very mid-range at that time, the graphics card i use now costs £30 on ebay, and yet the computer runs every single game that has been released to date, high graphics, 1080p resolution, no issues at all. Sure i could get a higher frame rate, but i don't need one. I long gave up on the whole overclocking and persistent upgrading for benchmarking purposes nonsense. Only reason i'd want to buy a new computer right now is due to size and power requirements. Laptop will be a waste of my time in terms of a main pc, but if i have the money, i will jump at the chance to buy a new shuttle. great little boxes if a touch pricey.

 

[IC3M4L3]

Outdated is a debatable notion. Yes it is outdated in that they release new hardware every month, but not outdated in it's capability. The internals of my main computer is at least 5 years old, and it was very mid-range at that time, the graphics card i use now costs £30 on ebay, and yet the computer runs every single game that has been released to date, high graphics, 1080p resolution, no issues at all. Sure i could get a higher frame rate, but i don't need one. I long gave up on the whole overclocking and persistent upgrading for benchmarking purposes nonsense. Only reason i'd want to buy a new computer right now is due to size and power requirements. Laptop will be a waste of my time in terms of a main pc, but if i have the money, i will jump at the chance to buy a new shuttle. great little boxes if a touch pricey.

http://www.skidrowgames.net/cabelas-dangerous-hunts-2013-skidrow.html

^^ that one?^^ il give it whirl

yeh most apps nowadays arent even made to run on quad core let alone the 6 and 8 core cpu's,, shit windows 8 just been relased at it has the achitechture to run 2 apps simortaniously,,even tho we all do it with se7en 8 has sum new fancy shit,, t sucks anyways

get a nice 2gb graphics card 16gb of ddr3,i5/7 cpu good heatsink unless u go liquid and ur good to go

i dont bother with overclocking and all that shit,, even th i run black edidion cp im too old for the nerdy stuff cannot be arsed,, im thinking of going the low pawerored route coz the amount of watts neded to browse this forum is ridicluouse,lol.may get a new ipad

 

[jimmygreenfingers]

Are AMD any good or should i go for intels then. Thats one thing i cant make my mind up on. The rig will be mainly for gaming, browsing the net i'll use the lappy. My last rig was 650w lol.

 

[IC3M4L3]

Are AMD any good or should i go for intels then. Thats one thing i cant make my mind up on.

the great AMD VS INTEL dispute,,,, lol,,,, most will say intel BUT look at ther fucking price,, its ridiclulouse 899 for a cpu WOW?! lol
i use amd phenom 2 955 black edidtion 3,2gzx4, with a 30 qwid 1gb card of felabay and it runs anything,, they say amd get a lil hot but sticking a good cooler or one of those carasir liquid cooling kits your golden, for bang for the buck id go amd,, or if u r feeling flush and wanna stay with teh fat cat copretations then go intel

TT is that online playable tha game? im getting it now at about 1mbps so a hr or so to donwload but damn 5gb? for a few lions and tigers? lol

so xbox pad or mouse and keyboard whats your choice for pc gameplay? me,, xbox 360 pad,,cant do the whole pad and mouse thing pisses me off

 

[jimmygreenfingers]

Yeah that was my thinking ic3 lol. AMD use a different socket dont they, for the price they look a good bet and i can get a better GFX card with money i save. It does me head in man trying to figure out whats best lol so many options mate.

 

[IC3M4L3]

just readin a thread on shitebook and fuk me people are SOOOO fast to tar ther misbehaving child with adhd,, lol ther saying nowt to do with the rough estate we live in,, and ofc nothing to do with tjem staggering in pissed and fighting ther boyfriends heres a better idea GET OF FUCKING FACEBOOK AND TAKE YOUR KID OUT AND SPEND A LIL MONEY ONE THm ratehr than bangin g on all week about how u cant wait to go out on the piss friday night,,, FUCKING JOKE!!

 

[tip top toker]

You're only looking at that price for an intel processor because you can't shop wisely But yes, each has their merits, i personally prefere intel at present. With regard to spending stupid money on the highest clocked cpu, it's a lot cheaper jut to buy a bundle from the likes of overclockers and they'll overclock it to 4ghz+ for you for a premium, but for a lot cheaper than just buying the fastest stock cpu.

As to recomending 16gb of ram, i know it's cheap, but there isn't really a requirement to use 8gb of ram, let alone 16.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

i reckon for around 12-1500 i should be able to have something pretty good that aint gonna be outdated in a year or two.

That's more than enough to build a decent gaming rig Jimmy, 12-1500 will get you a top of the range beast mate. I've just built a pal of the girlfriend a decent one for 600 sheets.

Ive been thinking of going sli but really need to do some research as its been a while since i was into all that, i just want a rig thats gonna play any game and still be half decent in a year or two.

I've just upgraded my graphics card from an ATI crossfire rig, I had one of the first stable crossfire rigs ever as the cards I used were the first cards on the market that didn't need a master/slave set up.

I can personally vouch for a powerful, single chip/single card set up being far better than Crossfire/SLI.

The biggest problem is that it's near on impossible to get a motherboard that runs both PCI express slots at x16 bandwidth, so you end up with 2 cards at x8 x8 in a dual card set up and this affects potential performance.

The next problem is in how dual card technology actually does what it does, you don't get twice the performance with 2 cards like people think.

The main card runs at it's full potential but each added card runs as a cut down percentage of the ones first in the line, by the time you have got 3-4 cards in a rig the 3rd and 4th card are pretty much doing fuck all but help AA at high resolutions but don't offer any frame rate improvements.

 

[The Yorkshireman]

Are AMD any good

Not since the 'Athlon 64 x2', you want an i7 as anything lesser will bottleneck your beasty graphics card.

 

[IC3M4L3]

Yeah that was my thinking ic3 lol. AMD use a different socket dont they, for the price they look a good bet and i can get a better GFX card with money i save. It does me head in man trying to figure out whats best lol so many options mate.

am3 socket
ddr3

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corsair-Vengeance-Performance-Memory-Module-16GB-4-DDR3-SDRAM-1600MHz-CL9-XMP-/330816605610?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_MemoryRAM_JN&hash=item4d0634cdaa

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Asus-Sabertooth-990FX-AMD-990FX-S-AM3-DDR3-SATA-III-6Gb-s-RAID-SATA-PCI-/121008234357?pt=UK_Computing_LaptopMotherboards_CPUs_CA&hash=item1c2ca71f75

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sapphire-Radeon-HD-6670-2GB-PCI-E-Graphics-Card-11192-11-20G-/170900051001?pt=UK_Computing_Computer_Components_Graphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item27ca6fd439

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120GB-OCZ-Solid-3-SSD-2-5-SATA-6Gb-s-SandForce-2281-Read-500MB-s-Write-450M-/130789116674?pt=UK_Computing_Solid_State_Drives&hash=item1e73a38b02

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-FX-6100-X6-Bulldozer-3-30GHz-Socket-AM3-6-Core-Processor-Black-Edition-/140836863182?pt=UK_Computing_CPUs_Processors&hash=item20ca87fcce

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cooler-Master-HAF-912-Black-Midi-Tower-PC-Computer-Case-RC-912P-KKN1-/140872288634?pt=UK_Computing_DesktopComponents_RL&hash=item20cca4897a

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/XIGMATEK-Thors-Hammer-HDT-Intel-AMD-Socket-775-1155-1156-AM2-AM3-CPU-Cooler-/250895143611?pt=Computing_ComputerComponents_Fans_Heatsinks_SR&hash=item3a6a8412bb

jobe done

 

[IC3M4L3]

Not since the 'Athlon 64 x2', you want an i7 as anything lesser will bottleneck your beasty graphics card.

dont think he bovvd bowt the nerdy benchamarking stuff yorkie m8

You're only looking at that price for an intel processor because you can't shop wisely

But yes, each has their merits, i personally prefere intel at present. With regard to spending stupid money on the highest clocked cpu, it's a lot cheaper jut to buy a bundle from the likes of overclockers and they'll overclock it to 4ghz+ for you for a premium, but for a lot cheaper than just buying the fastest stock cpu.

As to recomending 16gb of ram, i know it's cheap, but there isn't really a requirement to use 8gb of ram, let alone 16.

i do lots of encding mate so 16gb for me is a must lol,, video encoding is the biggest lug u can put on your system much more than gaming like

 

[jimmygreenfingers]

Cheers boys, you've given me plenty to think about lol, ive a rough idea what i want now if i get stuck on building this fucker i know who to PM. Think i'll stick to one decent gfx card then yorkie and an i7 cpu, 6 -8 gig of ram should do me, i can always add more with the right MB but i think it would just be for braggin rights lol. should have some money in the kitty for a decent HD monitor then and of course a good case.

 

[tip top toker]

You cna have my case for cheap Bit too large to post though

 

[jimmygreenfingers]

You cna have my case for cheap Bit too large to post though [/QUOTE

I have a feeling yours is a whopper lol, prob to big for me. My last one was rather cool looking, i forget what it was but looked the part anyway.

 

[IC3M4L3]

You cna have my case for cheap Bit too large to post though [/QUOTE

I have a feeling yours is a whopper lol, prob to big for me. My last one was rather cool looking, i forget what it was but looked the part anyway.

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im sure ur no that far away a drive wouldnt hurt?

i will say one thing GO SSD for ur main OS drive normal sata is not as good, smaller and more expsnivie but DAMN ther good,, also stick to corsair if u can they all have lifetime or at least 10 yr warrenty so wen its nrly up fry your shit and get new for old!!! how cool lol

oh and the case is a desicion in itself i like the HAF case (hi air flow) fuk liquid coolilng wen u got haf lol imagine the case been your grow room with extractors and such setup,,same deal

 

[tip top toker]

Aye, i have a silverstone tj07, awesome case, but a bloody monster. Chances are i'll just sell the inards and fill it with harddrives and a low power mitx/matx system and use as a file server. Wanting something more sensible, thinking either a new shuttle as i love the size, but don't love the noise levels, or maybe the silverstone FT03, looks pretty nice.

+1 on the corsair. Just a day or two ago received some replacement RAM. Bought the stuff in 2005 or something and warranty is good for a lifetime

 

[IC3M4L3]

very middle clas TT lmao

 

[jimmygreenfingers]

Ive just had to google shuttle lol, small compact PCs eh. I want to put all my movies i have on DVD bout 800 onto a device thats connected to my large plasma in my front room so i can watch without having to get my arse up to switch out dvds. Library of movies of sorts would these do, i suppose i would need a lot of Hard drive space for that amount, dont fancy a great big fuck off rig connected permenantly to my telly, want something that looks like a dvd player of sorts so it fits in with my sky box and blueray player.