The Seed Collectors Thread

[hellraizer30]

I have come to the concensus i will make up my own mind on what breeders to run.Every thread something different sub's shit is bomb next thread his shit is worthless same with everyone else except Bodhi haven't seen any1 put down his gear yet!!!All strains will hermie it's a marijuanna genetic trait so using that to put down someone's gear is pointless!Everyone going to have favorite's and not everyone can grow so take what info you get with a grain of salt .My white widow hermied on me wasn't GHS fault it was mine my room is hot as hell but i'm not going to blame them because of it actually it outgrowing everything else 2 to 1

Ina way yes its in its genetics BUT! How far down the genetic tree is it? And this boils down to (stability) having
a un-stable line and breeding with it cause it yields good or is super fire is BS! Where there failing to elliminate
these un-stable strains is during testing or the lack off! Testing of the parents and the crosses is the only way!
and not just a few tests, multi test in many diff growers rooms are needed! What work for one might not for others.
this process is only done by a very few! Breeders why? I say there lazy and money hungry! People bitch about ggg
not flooding the market with goods! Well a good amount of ther beans go to testing then the leftovers hit the shelve
for you and I. This to me is great bis, bodhi does the same thing! Thus things are limited. Any of the breeders that are
flooding the markets also have people flooding the forums with wtf threads my seeds hermied lol. The hype is only do
to gear being limited and it being uber dank!

 

[Twisted Pleasure BX]

I know u prob. Already saw this HR I found this interesting and cool.

SoCalSeeds


.This is one thing everyone wants to know about when it comes to our genetics so we made this thread to clear things up and inform


Yes friends, we do have a Pure ChemD male with NO Rez genetics involved and no hybridizing to get it. The ChemD line from Elite Genetics was made from a Pure ChemD male from femanized seeds. Yes, there is no such thing as true female seeds. Elite back-crossed this male (if you can call it that) to the ChemD clone. He then grew out those seeds and chose another worthy male and did a second BX (again, if you can call it that). That is how only ChemD genetics made the seeds RD used and again crossed back to the ChemD Clone for BX3. Never an out-cross and as we showed in photos below, the male we have is not a hermaphrodite. Stable and pure ChemD genetics, nothing else involved ever.<br /


When RD joined forces with Elite Genetics, the Chem Projects is what he was to work on. Left with the projects and no Elite, (I'm sure we all know what happened to him by now) RD made a new generation (BX if you will) to the ChemD mom/clone from a stunning male he found in the ChemD line from Elite Genetics for the BX3 or what is currently known as the SoCal Dawg. But not really a BX because these are pure ChemD genetics from the get go as explained above. With this amazing male we saw no reason to leave out any of our elite clones from being knocked up by him. We have made plenty of ChemD male crosses and certainly something for everyone. First attachment is a pic. of him is full bloom with Casey Jones, MSS and ChemD elites get'n knocked up by him.


Hope this answers any question about how we got a pure ChemD male. Just to make sure folks are clear on the stability of this male, he was put through the most rigorous stress test of any plant we have ever abused. He was flowered than put into 24hr darkness for a few days. Then 24 light for a few days. He was heat stressed and cold stressed. He was beat up and broken, under-watered and over-watered. Then, as a final test, he was taken from indoors to outdoors. Under bright SoCal sunshine for a few days, and back indoors again. Attached are some, very close up and reveling, pic's after all this and you can see, although week and not producing the male flower he could due to all the stress, there are NO female flowers/hairs anywhere. He is as solid as a rock! Keep it green friends…

 

[THESkunkMunkie]

Hey Hell', always good to see you mate. I'll tell you though mate, 100% I never had a hermie 'Chem' X yet and I've ran CC's Deadhead OG lol. 99% of hermies are enviromental or feeding stress on the part of the growers. Treat those bitches right and they'll put out the goods like any other. If you run Diesel & OGK you gotta try at least one Chem X at least once mate. Pure powers outta stanky dank flowers.

 

[Mindmelted]

I like stanky dank flowers

 

[hellraizer30]

I know u prob. Already saw this HR I found this interesting and cool.

SoCalSeeds


.This is one thing everyone wants to know about when it comes to our genetics so we made this thread to clear things up and inform


Yes friends, we do have a Pure ChemD male with NO Rez genetics involved and no hybridizing to get it. The ChemD line from Elite Genetics was made from a Pure ChemD male from femanized seeds. Yes, there is no such thing as true female seeds. Elite back-crossed this male (if you can call it that) to the ChemD clone. He then grew out those seeds and chose another worthy male and did a second BX (again, if you can call it that). That is how only ChemD genetics made the seeds RD used and again crossed back to the ChemD Clone for BX3. Never an out-cross and as we showed in photos below, the male we have is not a hermaphrodite. Stable and pure ChemD genetics, nothing else involved ever.<br /


When RD joined forces with Elite Genetics, the Chem Projects is what he was to work on. Left with the projects and no Elite, (I'm sure we all know what happened to him by now) RD made a new generation (BX if you will) to the ChemD mom/clone from a stunning male he found in the ChemD line from Elite Genetics for the BX3 or what is currently known as the SoCal Dawg. But not really a BX because these are pure ChemD genetics from the get go as explained above. With this amazing male we saw no reason to leave out any of our elite clones from being knocked up by him. We have made plenty of ChemD male crosses and certainly something for everyone. First attachment is a pic. of him is full bloom with Casey Jones, MSS and ChemD elites get'n knocked up by him.


Hope this answers any question about how we got a pure ChemD male. Just to make sure folks are clear on the stability of this male, he was put through the most rigorous stress test of any plant we have ever abused. He was flowered than put into 24hr darkness for a few days. Then 24 light for a few days. He was heat stressed and cold stressed. He was beat up and broken, under-watered and over-watered. Then, as a final test, he was taken from indoors to outdoors. Under bright SoCal sunshine for a few days, and back indoors again. Attached are some, very close up and reveling, pic's after all this and you can see, although week and not producing the male flower he could due to all the stress, there are NO female flowers/hairs anywhere. He is as solid as a rock! Keep it green friends&#8230;

And again as stated above the did rigorous stress tests and testing! Something many others are failing to do

 

[hellraizer30]

Hey Hell', always good to see you mate. I'll tell you though mate, 100% I never had a hermie 'Chem' X yet and I've ran CC's Deadhead OG lol. 99% of hermies are enviromental or feeding stress on the part of the growers. Treat those bitches right and they'll put out the goods like any other. If you run Diesel & OGK you gotta try at least one Chem X at least once mate. Pure powers outta stanky dank flowers.

I feel yah skunk but my room is a lab not a growroom lol enviromentis top notch temps never swing more than 5f between
night or day, zero light leaks. Humitity is 40% night or day, and feeding is never in the to much range! The chem x i ran was
In the range of 750 to 800 ppm in ready grow soil, and all x4 phenos i got at day 52 hermied out and spewed pollen everywhere.
im glad your geting good results skunk maybe il get lucky on my next batch of chem x beans. I did save cuts off the mendo
and force og and there in bloom to so a recap on the testing is underway due to the fact i had to cut early.

 

[ThegrowerMOJO]

I agree with what your saying HR and you hit the nail on the head with the non-testing going on right now.Purple is the rage suddenly every breeder got 5 purple strains within 6 months and calling them stable yeah i call bullshit!.That was a interesting article on the chem. Might look into that a little further as The skunkmunkie said i like me some stanky danky flowa's

 

[gudkarma]

not long ago somebody posted a chem daddy on here.
that shit was amazing.

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when i test gear for a breeder : one overwater & one light schedule fuckup (@ dif times) gotta go in the mix

its what happens in real life.

 

[hellraizer30]

not long ago somebody posted a chem daddy on here.
that shit was amazing.

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when i test gear for a breeder : one overwater & one light schedule fuckup (@ dif times) gotta go in the mix

its what happens in real life.

I agree gud testing needs to be more that just a grow a plant start to finish.

 

[Twisted Pleasure BX]

I just want something worth while in that time frame was hoping someone could shed some light on it from experiance. I have purple ECsD that is super dank but yeild is only medium. But she def good at 56. Anyway thought I would ask the knowledge kings.

 

[gudkarma]

i check em with a flashlight several times too.

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do those green coated cfl bulbs (party bulbs or some shit) at home creepo work for night peeping ?

are they okay to use?

i need.

 

[hellraizer30]

Yah green light is ok to use

 

[hellraizer30]

I just want something worth while in that time frame was hoping someone could shed some light on it from experiance. I have purple ECsD that is super dank but yeild is only medium. But she def good at 56. Anyway thought I would ask the knowledge kings.

Off hand i dont know of a 50 to 56 day one that fits yield and quality, i have a goodone but its not on the market lol
would have to make fem seeds to get it out to people

 

[THESkunkMunkie]

Thats why they're in testing Hell' and also why your a reliable tester too mate as you got your op dialed in tight. The story of the chem comes from bag seed bud so there is intersexing in traits hidden in with the genes to be aware of, I may just have been lucky but so far mines all been positive exp'. But try a tested chem variety mate, from any reliable source. Topdawgs the way to go if you can score them for uber chem's.
With any test gear though always be vigilent and treat 'em mean to keep 'em keen.

 

[boneheadbob]

GK
I am gonna try that double white.How many beans would you get to find a nice mom?

Whats your recomendation from paradise and dinafem?
I have never even smoked chem D.
I did grow eskos choco mix nycd cross.

 

[Twisted Pleasure BX]

Thanks HR ya to good to be true. Yep Green Party Bulbs all the way for me too. Just in one if those little cheepo light reflectors. Used to have the green flood light and they were to heavy hot and Burt out all the time. Dnt miss that shit. But knock on wood I never have any herm issues. On anything I've ever ran. And the truth is I've over feed under feed and sure as hell been way to hot at Times. I've just always made sure to use a green light keep light leaks to a minim And that's about it. Shit I've even had light leaks but most of the time I get a FT or some lose buds but nothing herm. I know nobody likes a bragger Now I do have a box on my rooms that if the power goes out or reaches a certine temp. It's shuts everything down. Then total darkness until I manually reset the timer and turn everything back on. Maybe out of wack timers could be the main cause. You know on and off at the wrong times. Just my two cents. I know I ain't ran as much as u guys that's a fact.

 

[gudkarma]

my alphadawg cut is pure chem leaning. its almost all chemmy goodness.

lucky me, i found a keeper in 3 double white beans.
seems like two phenos. ww leaning. gws leaning.

the ww leaning tastes WAY better.
both are dank as fuck.

dinafem = so far nothing to the finish line.
got ww & blue widow cracked just to see if im retarded or its my lab.

paradise : allkush, acid , sensistar , magic bud , pandora, bella donna, & some others.

allkush i got going. supposed cola maker. nice for the tables.
looks great so far too.

 

[xyz101]

Hey gud I seen some green bulbs at greners.com no experience with them though

Hey twisted there's a 45 day super skunk cut in cali I'd like to grab probably fit your needs let you know if I'm able todo anything with it

 

[Twisted Pleasure BX]

Hey gud I seen some green bulbs at greners.com no experience with them though

Hey twisted there's a 45 day super skunk cut in cali I'd like to grab probably fit your needs let you know if I'm able todo anything with it

Sweet sounds like a plan. Xyz...And hey those green led headband things dnt waist ur time with those damn things suck! They just fall apart all the time then the damn LEDs go out. Not mention how fast 16 green LEDs eat the batteries. Truth they arnt bright either Take it from a guy lives half his life in the dark. just heads up....

 

[xyz101]

Thanks twisted what about this bulb? http://www.greners.com/stealth-grow-green-nite-light.html says green led but may be bullshit lol I know your a led master heh