The progressive wing has already beaten the establishment in 2018

abandonconflict · Mar 30, 2018

Z3r0Z3r0 said:
I used to resort to ad hominems a lot, back then it was a fallacy and now in tweenies its worst, both of you should resort to civil debate before just blatant attacks, gets boring for rest of us

Unfortunately for his posting history, there is no substance to debate. Literally everything he claims is but projections. He spams links from "nakedcapitalism" and "counterpunch" and spews Bernout talking points but when met with disagreement he immediately resorts to personal attacks and then claims the it is the other person attacking him. I can see you're new here, which is why you weren't aware of that. Welcome to the politics section. This goes back a while.

UncleBuck · Mar 30, 2018

i hate pad thai.

Unclebaldrick · Mar 30, 2018

abandonconflict said:
Maybe he's accustomed to having his political debates with people that are locked in dog kennels.

Certainly they are locked in their own echo chamber. And the other people in it are Trumpees. Such a bunch of naive little twinks.

Unclebaldrick · Mar 30, 2018

UncleBuck said:
i hate pad thai.

Noice.

Unclebaldrick · Mar 30, 2018

UncleBuck said:
i hate pad thai.

Too many nuts.

Z3r0Z3r0 · Mar 30, 2018

abandonconflict said:
Unfortunately for his posting history, there is no substance to debate. Literally everything he claims is but projections. He spams links from "nakedcapitalism" and "counterpunch" and spews Bernout talking points but when met with disagreement he immediately resorts to personal attacks and then claims the it is the other person attacking him. I can see you're new here, which is why you weren't aware of that. Welcome to the politics section. This goes back a while.

Thing is Ill agree with Bernie, I luv Bernie, and I thought he should be president after seeing him and Kimmel concerning weed and the post office.

THing is like I said, all I know about Bernie is weed at my doorstep, he wont say how hes gonna change the whole system, to me hes just a step above Gary Johnson....

ttystikk · Mar 30, 2018

Z3r0Z3r0 said:
Wtf dude.

I hear progressive and that lights up auto time to cynicise this person.

A progressive nowadays is a scarf around neck hipster drinking latte talking yes KEY WORD talking about what they not know, act like they been opressed and have not literally been there done that but speak on word of mouth. Its like a neo alt left just as retarded as alt right besides the fact everything is polarized, and kettles and pots do the pointing fingers.....

WHen someone can come to me and say they lived it and were opressed, but a suburbanite who took a few hits a of blotter and took 5 bong rips does not know the meaning of state repression except maybe some cop shaking them down over their eyes red

...and yet, they still vote.

ttystikk · Mar 30, 2018

abandonconflict said:
All you do is resort to personal attacks. That is what you led off with in every fucking thread. What was all that BS about attacking me because I fought in two wars? You don't even have a job. All you do is spam nonsense links on a pot website about Bernard even though most of us don't fucking care about that old piece of garbage. Get a life, do something.

Still nothing but personal attacks, clown.

You've got nothing but hot air. The world doesn't need any more of that.

abandonconflict · Mar 30, 2018

Z3r0Z3r0 said:
Thing is Ill agree with Bernie, I luv Bernie, and I thought he should be president after seeing him and Kimmel concerning weed and the post office.

Thing is like I said, all I know about Bernie is weed at my doorstep, he wont say how hes gonna change the whole system, to me hes just a step above Gary Johnson....

That's fine. I don't have a problem with anyone just because they like a candidate or political figure, even if it is Trump. Of course, there are trends which go along with support for certain figures but I give people the benefit of the doubt. I don't assume that someone will say something racist just because they wear MAGA hats, even though they almost always do. Sadly, there are certain idiotic trends which overlap strongly with support for Bernie around here. I don't currently support any political figures in the US. That doesn't mean I don't know anything about them or that I won't show up and vote for any of them in the hope of seeing a particular outcome for an election.

I am definitely weary of the cult like acolytes that I have seen giving absolute support to some figures, such as Bernie Sanders and Ron Paul. With that said, I do not like Bernard and I would hope that he does not win a presidential primary because then I might find myself rationalizing giving him a vote. That's my right and I don't begrudge anyone to support him as long as they don't personally attack me just because I do not.

Z3r0Z3r0 · Mar 30, 2018

I dont think Ron Paul is that far off either, wouldnt even label him republican
Smarter then Gary Johnson thats for sure, and his son is alright, not even a politician his background is medical doctor physician

UncleBuck · Mar 30, 2018

Z3r0Z3r0 said:
I dont think Ron Paul is that far off either, wouldnt even label him republican
Smarter then Gary Johnson thats for sure, and his son is alright, not even a politician his background is medical doctor physician

rand paul accredited himself. him and his ddaddy are phonies. and racist neo-confederates.

ttystikk · Mar 30, 2018

Unclebaldrick said:
The fucked up thing is that many of us agree with most of the policies these self described "progressives" believe in. But their inability to compromise means that unless we believe in all of them and are willing to torch our own house and throw ourselves on the pyre, we get criticized as neoliberals and sellouts. It is this kind of attitude that will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in the coming years. It is this kind of attitude that caused the revulsion in the electorate that resulted in the Trump presidency.

It doesn't matter if the only people supporting them here are pro-Trump trolls, they are so self-righteous that they miss that fact and just use it to stroke their own egos.

Yet it's Funny how we aren't the ones spewing all the hate here.

trippnface · Mar 31, 2018

UncleBuck said:
actually, since you are more interested in democrats beating democrats rather than democrats beating republicans, the primaries should be the interesting part for you.

politics 101 right there

0/100, annoying OP

"Politics 101"?

Please don't pretend you understand Politics. Lol!

trippnface · Mar 31, 2018

UncleBuck said:
rand paul accredited himself. him and his ddaddy are phonies. and racist neo-confederates.

Remember, you are a Zionist.

That gives you zero right to pretend to speak out against Racism.
Understand?

trippnface · Mar 31, 2018

Z3r0Z3r0 said:
Thing is many dems label themselves progressive.

Id say Kucinich is probably the only one id vote for, Bernie is old, washed up and makes statements whiich are true but already known, yeah wallstreet runs shit bernie, and 3 ppl got all the wealth, QUETION IS HOW ARE YOU GONNA CHANGE THINGS? Instead of just pointing the finger?

Well, he would have actually went after the financial terrorists.

Unlike Hillary & Obama, who did nothing except choke on banker cock.

UncleBuck · Mar 31, 2018

trippnface said:
Remember, you are a Zionist.

That gives you zero right to pretend to speak out against Racism.
Understand?

jew-hater says what?

Unclebaldrick · Mar 31, 2018

ttystikk said:
Yet it's Funny how we aren't the ones spewing all the hate here.

Right. Because when you "spew hate" your purity makes it ok.

:roll:

ttystikk · Mar 31, 2018

Unclebaldrick said:
Right. Because when you "spew hate" your purity makes it ok.

Left.

I'm a Progressive.

It's your dyslexia, not anyone else's.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to solving it.

ttystikk · Mar 31, 2018

UncleBuck said:
jew-hater says what?

Lol

Funny how everyone who calls you out for being an anti Palestinian Zionist is suddenly a Jew hater.

It's as wrong as it is transparent.

There is no fanatic so intolerant as the newly converted, eh UncleSchmuck?

Unclebaldrick · Mar 31, 2018

ttystikk said:
Left.

I'm a Progressive.

It's your dyslexia, not anyone else's.

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to solving it.

Powerful stuff.

The progressive wing has already beaten the establishment in 2018

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