The progressive wing has already beaten the establishment in 2018

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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abandonconflict said:
For the millionth (at least) time, stop pigeonholing me.
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I'm not trying to pigeonhole you, for some strange reason, you simply refuse to divulge what US politicians you actually support..

Seems like you're trying to hide the fact that you don't actually support any of the politicians your friends support, you just support whatever beliefs your friends support..
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Padawanbater2 said:
I'm not trying to pigeonhole you, for some strange reason, you simply refuse to divulge what US politicians you actually support..

Seems like you're trying to hide the fact that you don't actually support any of the politicians your friends support, you just support whatever beliefs your friends support..
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deciphering...

"I'm not trying to pigeonhole you but here, watch me try to pigeonhole you."
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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abandonconflict said:
No, the two of you are objectively pro-GOP. Your little faux-progressive movement is hellbent on destroying the DNC, not the GOP. You two are insistent upon mischaracterizing my stance as pro-DNC because you can't argue otherwise. Your interests align perfectly with the privileged white male power structure system. You think that Trump's election was the "best thing that ever happened for the left in your lifetime" and that the rest of us somehow deserve this fascist. Fuck your fake ass inflatable movement.
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You're too busy plastering ridiculous labels all over people to see what's going on.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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abandonconflict said:
For the millionth (at least) time, stop pigeonholing me. You're the guy who thinks more is expected of you than others because you're a white guy. I'm not going to ever be on your side. It was your little fake progressive movement that calls itself socialist but is as capitalist as any US political group that has a huge share in the blame for putting Trump into office.
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You're the guy who's against everything.

I know, because I tried to engage you in productive conversation and you got angry because you couldn't do it.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
Every time you trot this out it just reinforces how disconnected you actually are. Nobody said racism will go away if we just stop talking about it. The argument you've chosen to strawman is that racism won't go away just by talking about it. Just by accusing people of being racist and having them fired from their jobs or censored from other positions. You're not going to defeat racism that way. That's your entire argument. Every time I've asked you and your ilk for actual solutions, the kinds of solutions apparently Hillary Clinton voiced during her campaign and Sanders didn't, even though some of you actually voted for Sanders over Clinton in the Democratic primary, it's met with crickets. You have no solutions.

What did Clinton do better on racial issues that Sanders didn't? What specific policy position(s) did she support that he didn't, that African Americans did? Name it

The argument is that in deep red districts, people don't prioritize issues concerning identity politics because it doesn't affect them everyday. They care about the economic hardships they go through on a day to day basis. This is why populist left progressive policy positions win them over and why the votes reflect that.
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Ease up on him. As a veteran, all he knows how to do is toss bombs, break things and kill people. Actually bringing positive change is something he was never trained for.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Padawanbater2 said:
I'm not trying to pigeonhole you, for some strange reason, you simply refuse to divulge what US politicians you actually support..

Seems like you're trying to hide the fact that you don't actually support any of the politicians your friends support, you just support whatever beliefs your friends support..
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Sheep don't lead.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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abandonconflict said:
OH BIG GOTCHA MOMENT!!!!!!

If I don't support someone, it must negate everything I said about all your fake ass ideals...

Dumb ass.
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I'm asking you who you support so I can get a better understanding of your political positions

Now stop avoiding the question. Tell me who you support in American politics. When you criticize the candidates I support without revealing the candidates you support, all you're doing is whining without substance. Tell me who you think is better and why, then we can debate those points. Until then, all you're doing is bitching about the people I support. You can cry all you like about the people I support. Until you tell me who you think is better, it might as well be falling on deaf ears.
 
Z3r0Z3r0

Z3r0Z3r0

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Seems like the conservatives are fighting there own internal battles

Not the classic bible humpers land anymore, reminds me of neo corporate Mussolinisim or straight up fascism.

Bible humpers will still place god or at least what they beleive god to be first along with the rifle. While the neo fascists seem to be all about money and big buisness. SO yes its gotten to a point of bible humpers vs the greedys sects of the bunch

First of them dont know the true meaning of Jesus Christs teachings and the 2nd of bunch to congested with their own shit they roll in to see what they got comin
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Z3r0Z3r0 said:
Seems like the conservatives are fighting there own internal battles

Not the classic bible humpers land anymore, reminds me of neo corporate Mussolinisim or straight up fascism.

Bible humpers will still place god or at least what they beleive god to be first along with the rifle. While the neo fascists seem to be all about money and big buisness. SO yes its gotten to a point of bible humpers vs the greedys sects of the bunch

First of them dont know the true meaning of Jesus Christs teachings and the 2nd of bunch to congested with their own shit they roll in to see what they got comin
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the proper term for "right wing evangelicals" is now christo-fascists.
 
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