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Dats my bike punk

Dats my bike punk

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UncleBuck said:
Guns are surpassing cars and I can’t drive a gun to work (work is where you go if you have a job, a concept I felt I needed to explain to an unemployable racist like yourself)
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Racist, saying I dont work for whatever reason you have in your head. Your the most racist person on this forum.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Boy dies in gun accident
Sara Cline Dec. 21, 2019 Updated: Dec. 21, 2019 7:18 p.m.

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Boy dies in gun accident

A 7-year-old boy died after getting hold of a gun and shooting himself as the rest of his...
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A 7-year-old boy died after finding a gun and shooting himself as the rest of his family slept in their East Side home Saturday morning, his mother told police.
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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Dats my bike punk said:
Irresponsible gun owners. Just like their is irresponsible car drivers that kill more people a year than all gun related deaths combined. Let's ban cars and alcohol also. Cuck boy
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You need a license and proper training to drive a car. Its actually easier to sell a gun than it is a car.
Dats my bike punk said:
Again irresponsible gun owners. More kids die from accidental drowning than guns. Let's ban swimming pools. Your logic is flawed and ignorant. Your going after guns like the media goes after pit bulls. Guns dont kill people stupidity does.
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Swimming pools also have generally MORE requirements.
UncleBuck said:
Lol

if she keeps it secured, it’s if no use for when that boogeyman breaks into her tract home to steal their autographed copy of “the blind side”

if she doesn’t, her kids could get it and shoot each other with it
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Which I find baffling since according to her husband, they've already experienced the unfathomable.
Having buried a child myself, I just cant wrap my head around it.


I predict this will be another post that goes unaddressed or addressed with a cherry picked story from google.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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www.spokesman.com

Man who pulled gun during Hayden bar fight pleads guilty to murder

Scott M. White shot and killed Michael “Topher” Clark on Feb. 24 in the parking lot of The Tipsy Pine, a bar in Hayden. Clark, 45, gained notoriety in the early 2000s for his role in a Canadian marijuana smuggling ring that inspired the movie “Kid Cannabis.”
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Man who pulled gun during Hayden bar fight pleads guilty to murder

After the two got into an argument, witnesses said, White threw the first punch, hitting Clark in the side of the head and breaking skin, and Clark responded by slapping White in the face. The bartender helped break the two men apart, handed a bill to White and his girlfriend, and asked the couple to leave the bar.

Clark went outside and punched White, and the two men resumed fighting in the parking lot, White’s girlfriend told deputies.

After the two men ended up on the ground, White stood up, pulled a pistol from a holster in his waistband and shot downward at Clark, striking him in the chest, stomach, back and bicep, according to court records.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Dats my bike punk said:
Again irresponsible gun owners. More kids die from accidental drowning than guns. Let's ban swimming pools. Your logic is flawed and ignorant. Your going after guns like the media goes after pit bulls. Guns dont kill people stupidity does.
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So, you go from "i need it fer pertiction" to "their fault". None of this justifies our lax gun laws. Are you still claiming that people are safer when the have a gun? There are literally hundreds of very recent stories about homicides and accidental shootings from just the past few days. Not a single one where a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun. Want to know why? Because that almost never happens.
 
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HashBucket

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Fogdog said:
Do you store your gun in the manner recommended by the NRA?

  • Store guns so they are not accessible to unauthorized persons.
  • ALWAYS Keep The Gun Unloaded Until Ready To Use
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When I was trained for my CCW, I learned three rules:
~ Don't load the gun till you are ready to use (putting it in your pocket is 'using', so it should be loaded in that situation)
~ Don't put your finger on the trigger till you have acquired a target and are preparing to shoot.
~ Control the mussel; keep it pointed in the safest direction.

In order for someone to get hurt, the handler must violate all three of those rules. If you violate two, nobody gets hurt.
This is true for any firearm; and should be observed on the shooting range, in the hunting field, or at home.
 
Dats my bike punk

Dats my bike punk

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doublejj said:
leupold 2x7. I can hit a pie plate every time at 400yds...

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With a 2x7 that's a load of horseshit. At 400 yards at 7x your pie plate would be 57 yards from view. On a scope using a cross reticle that's a tiny dot. Not even counting elevation or windage adjustment. Those are non belted cartridges so I assume. 30 cal most likely 30 06. Even loaded hot the bullet is dropping over 30 inches at 400 yards. Maybe 1 out of 10 shots but definitely not consistent
 
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Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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Tangerine_ said:
You need a license and proper training to drive a car. Its actually easier to sell a gun than it is a car.

Swimming pools also have generally MORE requirements.

Which I find baffling since according to her husband, they've already experienced the unfathomable.
Having buried a child myself, I just cant wrap my head around it.


I predict this will be another post that goes unaddressed or addressed with a cherry picked story from google.
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*Crickets*
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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Dats my bike punk said:
With a 2x7 that's a load of horseshit. At 400 yards at 7x your pie plate would be 57 yards from view. On a scope using a cross reticle that's a tiny dot. Not even counting elevation or windage adjustment. Those are non belted cartridges so I assume. 30 cal most likely 30 06. Even loaded hot the bullet is dropping over 30 inches at 400 yards. Maybe 1 out of 10 shots but definitely not consistent
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Can you put Heisens wife back on?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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HashBucket said:
When I was trained for my CCW, I learned three rules:
~ Don't load the gun till you are ready to use (putting it in your pocket is 'using', so it should be loaded in that situation)
~ Don't put your finger on the trigger till you have acquired a target and are preparing to shoot.
~ Control the mussel; keep it pointed in the safest direction.

In order for someone to get hurt, the handler must violate all three of those rules. If you violate two, nobody gets hurt.
This is true for any firearm; and should be observed on the shooting range, in the hunting field, or at home.
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well, ok. So, as with many other gun nuts, you give platitudes about gun safety without any commitment. Doesn't change the facts about how many times kids are killed or injured when guns are stored in an unsafe manner. Doesn't change the fact that a guns are more often used to commit murder or used with the intent to do so. Doesn't change the fact that other countries similar to the US don't have the same rates of injury and death due to gun accidents and homicide.

It's well established fact that guns do not make most gun owners safer. Do you really want the US to have many times higher rates of gun violence than other similar countries?
 
Dats my bike punk

Dats my bike punk

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Fogdog said:
well, ok. So, as with many other gun nuts, you give platitudes about gun safety without any commitment. Doesn't change the facts about how many times kids are killed or injured when guns are stored in an unsafe manner. Doesn't change the fact that a guns are more often used to commit murder or used with the intent to do so. Doesn't change the fact that other countries similar to the US don't have the same rates of injury and death due to gun accidents and homicide.

It's well established fact that guns do not make most gun owners safer. Do you really want the US to have many times higher rates of gun violence than other similar countries?
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But why do the cities with the toughest gun laws have the most gun homicides?
 
Tangerine_

Tangerine_

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Dats my bike punk said:
But why do the cities with the toughest gun laws have the most gun homicides?
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Because there are LOOPHOLES that need closing. For someone that claims to be a responsible gun owner you sure are lacking in the basics.

Being a responsible gun owner FOR common sense gun reform doesn't make someone anti-gun.

BTW, do sleep with your firearm or keep it secure?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Dats my bike punk said:
But why do the cities with the toughest gun laws have the most gun homicides?
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LOL

Why do most gun homicides take place in cities? Wow, what a stupid question.

300 million guns in the country.
80% of the population live in urban areas

Try to work out the math. It's not hard. Maybe 6th grade level of mastery needed.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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Dats my bike punk said:
With a 2x7 that's a load of horseshit. At 400 yards at 7x your pie plate would be 57 yards from view. On a scope using a cross reticle that's a tiny dot. Not even counting elevation or windage adjustment. Those are non belted cartridges so I assume. 30 cal most likely 30 06. Even loaded hot the bullet is dropping over 30 inches at 400 yards. Maybe 1 out of 10 shots but definitely not consistent
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Yeah I shouldn't have said every time....with 300yd zero I can hit about 50% at 400yd from a rest. Anything 300yd or less is dead meat.
 
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