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i have a question? im using aqua flakes ab with multi zen should i start to use budxl and the top booster. im growing auto blueberry and auto roadrunner. also when can i start to use shooting powder? thanks for the help ill post some pics if any one wanna see some porn:bigjoint:
 

spesh123

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TOP BOOSTER
Dilution rate of Top Booster is 1.5ml per 1ltr. Top Booster should be added to the nutrient feeding schedule for two to three days and then the usual nutrient feeding schedule should be resumed. Use Top Booster four weeks before harvest for 3-4 days.
BUDXL
start to use when first flowers are formed till end of grow. Dilution rate of Bud-XL is 1ml per 1litre.
SHOOTING POWDER
Use Shooting Powder at the end of the flowering period for the last three weeks i personally think u should still flush for a few days after using it.
<LI style="POSITION: relative">1 sachet to 100ltrs during the last three weeks before harvest <LI style="POSITION: relative">2 sachets to 100ltrs during the last two weeks before harvest
hope this helps ya dude. post some pics man :)
 

spesh123

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oh and your EC should be 1.2 before adding the magical shooting powder its ment to be some crazy shit.

peace.
 

m3sSh3aD

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Hi all,

I've sat and read this thread all night :-) got some really good information from it but would just like to add my experience as well.

I have grown 3 times before but I was learnt from the best in my area so have had a massive advantage. All grows have been fantastic except the blueberry as I used to little pots for space. Learnt from it though :-)

just got 8 choc Thai/who's your daddy and 8 jackie White on. Thai is 2 weeks in flower and jackie just gone in aero prop(new also). I did a test on the blueberry with double strengh bud xl compared to canna boost. Double xl blows canna out of the water in every department! Simple as and for 1/4 of the price! I'm using in all on choc Canadian xpress regena-root(million times better than rhizo and cheaper), not tried h&s exc.. Yet, after Reading this I may. CE nitro(Awesome!), canna coco a&b, hygrozyme which I relised is WAY over priced, adavanced nute barracade, AN hammerhead 9/18(awesome results compared to canna 13/14) and I will be using top shooter cutting out the hammerhead near the end due to TS been pk based. Also ghe ripen and canna flush near the end. Defo my most expensive grow. All in coco by the way. I got 6oz from a single plant of choc before with pk 13/14, single strengh budxl and no top shooter or ripen. Results should be interesting. I also got ph of 6.3 which seems to be a bit of a sweet spot for me. Cf is 2 to 3 over but I can asure you my babies have never looked better. Only prob is hygrozyme, I won't be purchasing it again as it's just not ecconomical no matter what advantage I get from it.

I know this is house and garden, but I reccomend looking at the Canadian xpress line, me and a few people are really loving this stuff and no one (that I have seen) as said anything. Canadians are known for growing the good stuff, Dutch flowers :-)
 

lostkoastpyrate

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Just got set back up after a visit a year or so ago by the federales... Quick question for you... A buddy of mine got turned on to House and Garden and has pointed me in that direction. I am going with Soil A/B and wondering what types of soil everyone here has had experience with, particularly roots organics... Also, I am 1 week into veg and my clones are looking slightly deficient... Any other partiuclars regarding using this one with soil?
 

m3sSh3aD

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Just got set back up after a visit a year or so ago by the federales... Quick question for you... A buddy of mine got turned on to House and Garden and has pointed me in that direction. I am going with Soil A/B and wondering what types of soil everyone here has had experience with, particularly roots organics... Also, I am 1 week into veg and my clones are looking slightly deficient... Any other partiuclars regarding using this one with soil?
I use Canna CoCo Pro, Not the pro+ as it as extra thngs in so isnt balanced at ph7. I know exactly whats going in and whats coming out. My water is hard at 300ppm so going invest in a reverse osmosis machine. I know its PH7.2 so not far off neutral. My current feed i use makes the feed PH6.3 which i aim for 6.2 so i dont use any PH up/down.

Just much more control over soil and i prefer the taster over hyponics. Its a nice medium, excuse the pun ;)

And dont try some Coco called 'gold label', i tried it as it was cheaper but its clumpy and the feed dont drain threw evenly and neutriants get clogged. Roots suffer.

my 2 cents about soil/coco ;)
 

lostkoastpyrate

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Thanks for the reply... Now to dial in the nutrient issue a bit more.
New to the webpage and stoked to have found this thread... I am not new to gardening but am definitely using a new formula. As far as my practice goes, I am using 4x1000w hps in a dialed room with little temp flux. Growing in 5 gallon pots in a soil medium, using RO water, and PHing accordingly. As far as babies go, I have 60 little ones with 4 strains, chem dawg, purple diesel, skush, and purple mist. Everything was going fine until I bumped up the house and garden nutrient level as recommended for the first week of veg, aggressive ration. My leaves have now gone from dark to light green, with patches of yellowing in between veins on the new and newer (as opposed to older) growth. Some of the leaves have also become bumpy in between veins. It appears as though i have over fertilized. They are no more than ten days old and I am debating whether to let them keep going until the soil dries up, flush them or what... Has anyone ever seen this before? Whats a good solution?
Thanks in advance
 

purrrrple

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Thanks for the reply... Now to dial in the nutrient issue a bit more.
New to the webpage and stoked to have found this thread... I am not new to gardening but am definitely using a new formula. As far as my practice goes, I am using 4x1000w hps in a dialed room with little temp flux. Growing in 5 gallon pots in a soil medium, using RO water, and PHing accordingly. As far as babies go, I have 60 little ones with 4 strains, chem dawg, purple diesel, skush, and purple mist. Everything was going fine until I bumped up the house and garden nutrient level as recommended for the first week of veg, aggressive ration. My leaves have now gone from dark to light green, with patches of yellowing in between veins on the new and newer (as opposed to older) growth. Some of the leaves have also become bumpy in between veins. It appears as though i have over fertilized. They are no more than ten days old and I am debating whether to let them keep going until the soil dries up, flush them or what... Has anyone ever seen this before? Whats a good solution?
Thanks in advance
Looks like nute burn to me pal. I'd flush w/ a weak nutrient solution and then immediately follow w/ a 1/2 strength feeding. Slowly move your ppms up each feeding until you have reached the correct levels. Lemme tell you something else, HG reccomends some CRAZY high dosages and my plants at times couldnt take more than 1/2 of what the reccomended dosages were. If you added everything they said to at the rate they reccomended, at some points your ppms would be up over 2500+. Use the feeding chart only as a reference and learn to tweak it to fit your particular plants. Just my 2c.
 

purrrrple

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Oh, and by the way, the jury is in... Canna nutrients is the way to go. HG does create some VERY HIGH QUALITY nugs but pales in comparison in yield. Canna produces a much higher yield and wonderful quality.

I started this thread btw and i have run extensive testing and this is the conclusion i have drawn.

I am now experiementing with using AN's Hammerhead (its like the pk13/14 but its like 9/18 i believe).
 

lostkoastpyrate

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Looks like nute burn to me pal. I'd flush w/ a weak nutrient solution and then immediately follow w/ a 1/2 strength feeding. Slowly move your ppms up each feeding until you have reached the correct levels. Lemme tell you something else, HG reccomends some CRAZY high dosages and my plants at times couldnt take more than 1/2 of what the reccomended dosages were. If you added everything they said to at the rate they reccomended, at some points your ppms would be up over 2500+. Use the feeding chart only as a reference and learn to tweak it to fit your particular plants. Just my 2c.
Ok, so here is what I'm thinking of doing... flush with clearex and nutriboost... then, how long would you wait to come back in with nutes... a night, 2 nights.. immediately thereafter, as in right after the clearex flush added.. thanx for the constructive feedback...
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Oh, and by the way, the jury is in... Canna nutrients is the way to go. HG does create some VERY HIGH QUALITY nugs but pales in comparison in yield. Canna produces a much higher yield and wonderful quality.

I started this thread btw and i have run extensive testing and this is the conclusion i have drawn.

I am now experiementing with using AN's Hammerhead (its like the pk13/14 but its like 9/18 i believe).

I am still a H&G fan!! i haven't run canna, but I have gorwn the same clones as my buddy and I ended up with higher yeild and denser nugs. Hey, I mean to each there own. I just have had great results with H&G and will not be changing any time soon.

Here are couple harves tshots of my pk I ran with H&G Cocos



Here is the final product
 

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jberry

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yummy lookin pk there guys... did u all start from clone? or do you know the breeder?

Raider, how big did u veg the 6 plants per tray? (1000 watt hps over a 4x4 im assuming?)
 

#1Raiderfan420

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how much per light and how big of a light?
I ran 6 plants per 100w, 12 plants total.
that looks just like my pk, maybe we had the same genetics
Very nice puffer! They do look like the same pk. Mine were SR71 from Oaksterdam.

yummy lookin pk there guys... did u all start from clone? or do you know the breeder?

Raider, how big did u veg the 6 plants per tray? (1000 watt hps over a 4x4 im assuming?)
I started from clone. I actually got lucky and got some great clones from a dispensary in Clear Lake. I was told they were from a 1st gen SR71 mother. I am happy with them and am running some 2nd gen clones I cut from them now.
I vegged them for a while. My screen is 14 inches over my medium and I didn't flip until it it was full. Yes two 4'x4' tray under 1000w HPS. This round I vegged with t-5's for 60 days and they were straight up bushes before they were pruned and weaved.
 

purrrrple

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Lostkoastpyrate... like you said flush w/ clearex.. not familiar w/ the other product. Make sure you give it a good flush and test your runoff ppm to see if its higher than what your putting in. when it is the same or real close then you have successfully flushed away all the junk left in your soil. Then, immediately add a light nutrient mix. Immediately as in immediately like right after your done w the flush. Watch your plants closely over the next few days.. did they get greener, did they fade.. WHATARE THEY DOING? They will tell you what they want...

Best advice i can give..
 
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