The miracle of GMOs!

desert dude

desert dude

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India's population rose 250% while their farmland grew by only 5%, and they consumed more calories. The miracle of genetic engineering. God bless Monsanto!

Cue the Luddites...

"In 1960 India’s population was 450 million, and the average Indian subsisted on a near-starvation diet of just more than 2,000 calories per day. Indian farmers wrested those meager calories from 161 million hectares (400 million acres) of farmland, an area a bit more than twice the size of Texas. By 2010, Indian population rose by more than two and half times, national income rose 15-fold, and the average Indian ate a sixth more calories. The amount of land devoted to crops rose about 5 percent to 170 million hectares. Had wheat productivity remained the same that it was in 1960, Ausubel and his colleagues calculate that Indian farmers would have had to plow up an additional 65 million hectares of land. Instead, as people left the land for cities, Indian forests expanded by 15 million hectares—bigger than the area of Iowa."

http://reason.com/archives/2013/03/22/peak-farmland
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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or it could have more to do with the fact that india's population, riding close to 10% GDP growth, has brought many indians out of poverty and now the demand for imported food is higher than ever.

cue the retarded yapping.

http://www.twnside.org.sg/title/flood-cn.htm

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]India: Flood of food imports could destroy Indian agriculture[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]by Binu S. Thomas*[/FONT]​
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Bangalore, Aug 30 -- In recent months Indian supermarket shelves have started displaying a variety of imported foods. Cheese from Switzerland, apples fron New Zealand, biscuits from Thailand, chocolates from Brazil, the list is growing by the day. These imports have been allowed as part of fulfilling India's commitment to the World Trade Organisation under its Agreement on Agriculture (AoA) to improve market access for foreign foods (and phasing out import restrictions maintained on BOP grounds.)[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]With a WTO's dispute settlement panel recently rejecting India's stand justifying quantitative restrictions (QRs) that it has traditionally imposed on certain sensitive imports, the stage is set for the trickle of food-related imports to turn into a flood.*[/FONT]​
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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GMO and communists to be bible thumpers but I think there is no ethics of this year ago by a person who likes the white perpetual school nerd and then get offended if we are making sure you didn't get married in evolution of the end up in your liberal buddy is the white house of representatives from including Canada too late last night,so,I waited until you didn't answer my questions about you back in the letter up at moms since we patrolled the end of this.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Canna Sylvan said:
GMO and communists to be bible thumpers but I think there is no ethics of this year ago by a person who likes the white perpetual school nerd and then get offended if we are making sure you didn't get married in evolution of the end up in your liberal buddy is the white house of representatives from including Canada too late last night,so,I waited until you didn't answer my questions about you back in the letter up at moms since we patrolled the end of this.
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racist rabbit's fuse finally burst.
 
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PurpleBuz

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desert dude said:
India's population rose 250% while their farmland grew by only 5%, and they consumed more calories. The miracle of genetic engineering. God bless Monsanto!

Cue the Luddites...

"In 1960 India’s population was 450 million, and the average Indian subsisted on a near-starvation diet of just more than 2,000 calories per day. Indian farmers wrested those meager calories from 161 million hectares (400 million acres) of farmland, an area a bit more than twice the size of Texas. By 2010, Indian population rose by more than two and half times, national income rose 15-fold, and the average Indian ate a sixth more calories. The amount of land devoted to crops rose about 5 percent to 170 million hectares. Had wheat productivity remained the same that it was in 1960, Ausubel and his colleagues calculate that Indian farmers would have had to plow up an additional 65 million hectares of land. Instead, as people left the land for cities, Indian forests expanded by 15 million hectares—bigger than the area of Iowa."

http://reason.com/archives/2013/03/22/peak-farmland
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The article does not say a single thing that GMOs are one of the big reasons for the increase in productivity. There are many things that go on in developing farming areas around the world that can increase productivity substantially. Traditional Plant Breeding, selection, crossing, hybridization and more selection has contributed far more than the current GMO success stories.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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let's not forget the increased mechanization of farming in the last 50 years.

thread fail by OP, not surprising.
 
chewberto

chewberto

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Cool really cool, almost too cool, but not that cool! Your such a blessing and your informative threads really speak to me! Thanks.... Maybe unbiased next time huh? Wouldn't want people to think you are pushing some wacky agenda!
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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UncleBuck said:
racist rabbit's fuse finally burst.
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Racist rabbit raises rapid ripe rank.
Stinky smegma stains striped silk sheets.
Tender tasty tater tots toot tunes.
Uppity authoritarian utopia aggravates us.
Violent vegan's violet violin vents verse.
Wantonly waging white war weekly.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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desert dude said:
India's population rose 250% while their farmland grew by only 5%, and they consumed more calories. The miracle of genetic engineering. God bless Monsanto!

Cue the Luddites...

"In 1960 India’s population was 450 million, and the average Indian subsisted on a near-starvation diet of just more than 2,000 calories per day. Indian farmers wrested those meager calories from 161 million hectares (400 million acres) of farmland, an area a bit more than twice the size of Texas. By 2010, Indian population rose by more than two and half times, national income rose 15-fold, and the average Indian ate a sixth more calories. The amount of land devoted to crops rose about 5 percent to 170 million hectares. Had wheat productivity remained the same that it was in 1960, Ausubel and his colleagues calculate that Indian farmers would have had to plow up an additional 65 million hectares of land. Instead, as people left the land for cities, Indian forests expanded by 15 million hectares—bigger than the area of Iowa."

http://reason.com/archives/2013/03/22/peak-farmland
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uhh sorry bro.

india's wheat harvest was increased by Short Stalk Wheat (which could survive torrential rains and withstand heat better) developed by Norman Borlaug, through regular plant breeding, not Genetic Manipulation.

GMO's didnt do shit for india's food production, and STILL hasnt increased yields in any cultivar, not even by reducing pest damage.

so far as yeilds and pest resistance go, GMO cultivars have been mostly flops, with only BT Cotton standing out as a winner.

but im still in favour of more research. it took more than 70 years of steam engine failures before James Watt came up with a winner.
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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Canna Sylvan said:
Racist rabbit raises rapid ripe rank.
Stinky smegma stains striped silk sheets.
Tender tasty tater tots toot tunes.
Uppity authoritarian utopia aggravates us.
Violent vegan's violet violin vents verse.
Wantonly waging white war weekly.
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[video=youtube;MvPnM2Q1nwU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvPnM2Q1nwU[/video]
 
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PurpleBuz

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Dr Kynes said:
uhh sorry bro.

india's wheat harvest was increased by Short Stalk Wheat (which could survive torrential rains and withstand heat better) developed by Norman Borlaug, through regular plant breeding, not Genetic Manipulation.
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and most of south east asias rice crop was increased by rice varieties bred with traditional methods. NO GMO. Magnitudes of increases. This happened while US thought they owned se asia. Look up rice research associated with the philippines.

strangely I seem to remember they were short stout varieties as well
 
Dr Kynes

Dr Kynes

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PurpleBuz said:
and most of south east asias rice crop was increased by rice varieties bred with traditional methods. NO GMO. Magnitudes of increases. This happened while US thought they owned se asia. Look up rice research associated with the philippines.

strangely I seem to remember they were short stout varieties as well
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the new shit is deep water rice.

it grows basically hydroponically hanging it's roots in deep water supported by it's air filled stalk. no muddy paddies needed, no worries about unseasonal flooding, and very little hazard from rats mice and other pests which plague rice.

it's still in development but shit looks promising as fuck for swampy, or perpetually flooded regions and lakes.
 
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PurpleBuz

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Dr Kynes said:
the new shit is deep water rice.

it grows basically hydroponically hanging it's roots in deep water supported by it's air filled stalk. no muddy paddies needed, no worries about unseasonal flooding, and very little hazard from rats mice and other pests which plague rice.

it's still in development but shit looks promising as fuck for swampy, or perpetually flooded regions and lakes.
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and they keep progressing ... how much of this is due to GMO?
 
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