Ummm some good info out there, CJ does an admirable job but doesn't tell the whole story,Iam5stoned tries to make up the difference but gets a few facts wrong, but his heart and mind are in the right place.
Ok so FDR STOLE (confiscated) the peoples money (gold) by gunpoint AND then had the audacity to revalue it upwards by 70%!!! Which means he DEVALUED the dollar by as much. SO, steal gold and pay the citizen at the rate of $20.67 per ounce of gold and then when you have gotten almost all of the gold, revalue it higher $35/ounce , effectively STEALING 70% of the citizens money for the governments use. Then make it illegal for the citizen to own gold, under large penalty if caught. Continue to let foreigners trade in dollars for gold coins until 1971 when the USA completely ran out of all gold ( Fort Knox has been empty since then).
The Federal Reserve had been around for 20 years before the depression came along, FDR didn't create it, private bankers from Europe created the FED to control the USA politically, and economically.
FWIW even under the Gold Standard the Banks of the day still practiced fractional reserve banking, its not a new concept, the fraud of it has existed since the days of the gold smith (1400's). You can only have bank runs if they are leveraged ( Fractional reserve) and they had lots of bank runs before the Fed came into existence.
The reason the USA became so fucking powerful after the war? Almost every single nation that was industrialized was totally in ruins, except one country of course, the USA. The rest of the world did not all of a sudden stop demand for products, all eyes turned to the USA to produce the needs of the world, there was almost NO COMPETITION!! Its easy to make a buck when your the only one capable of meeting demand. We had also imported the finest minds from all the enemy countries.
The greatest growth period of the USA? Easily the period between Andy Jackson's elimination of the Bank of the US and the US Debt and 1913 when the Fed reserve system was put into place and the Income tax amendment was put into place ( to Pay for the interest from borrowing money from the Fed).
The USA has sold it soul. The Corruption at the top for the last 40 years is mind boggling. The chickens are coming home to roost.
Thank you for pointing this out. I was reading through the thread wondering when someone was going to mention how FDR stole all of the citizens gold and then immediately devalued the currency.
Also glad you pointed the obvious reason the USA was so successful after WWII. I doesn't take much logic to realize that the United States prospered after WWII because all of the other economies in the world were decimated.
Thank you for saving me the time of explaining all of that
I'll play along .... it takes a world war to correct 10 years of Keynesian economics. !!
Wonderful!!! We have a very bright future ahead of us.
The absence of regulation in the stock market is what caused the great depression. As seen today with the deregulation of the housing market. Thanks Bush!
private industry depends on the accumulated wealth of all individuals. no product or service can be marketed to an ailing consumer base. government, on the other hand, is only concerned with the population as a whole. government is supported by the total wealth of the nation, no matter how few hands may hold that wealth. the poverty of the few or the many is inconsequential to government as long as it can wring its pound of flesh from those who can retain wealth and maintain the illusion that it is striving for the equality of the remainder.Private industry has no interest in your life.
Ummm some good info out there, CJ does an admirable job but doesn't tell the whole story,Iam5stoned tries to make up the difference but gets a few facts wrong, but his heart and mind are in the right place.
Ok so FDR STOLE (confiscated) the peoples money (gold) by gunpoint AND then had the audacity to revalue it upwards by 70%!!! Which means he DEVALUED the dollar by as much. SO, steal gold and pay the citizen at the rate of $20.67 per ounce of gold and then when you have gotten almost all of the gold, revalue it higher $35/ounce , effectively STEALING 70% of the citizens money for the governments use. Then make it illegal for the citizen to own gold, under large penalty if caught. Continue to let foreigners trade in dollars for gold coins until 1971 when the USA completely ran out of all gold ( Fort Knox has been empty since then).
The Federal Reserve had been around for 20 years before the depression came along, FDR didn't create it, private bankers from Europe created the FED to control the USA politically, and economically.
FWIW even under the Gold Standard the Banks of the day still practiced fractional reserve banking, its not a new concept, the fraud of it has existed since the days of the gold smith (1400's). You can only have bank runs if they are leveraged ( Fractional reserve) and they had lots of bank runs before the Fed came into existence.
The reason the USA became so fucking powerful after the war? Almost every single nation that was industrialized was totally in ruins, except one country of course, the USA. The rest of the world did not all of a sudden stop demand for products, all eyes turned to the USA to produce the needs of the world, there was almost NO COMPETITION!! Its easy to make a buck when your the only one capable of meeting demand. We had also imported the finest minds from all the enemy countries.
The greatest growth period of the USA? Easily the period between Andy Jackson's elimination of the Bank of the US and the US Debt and 1913 when the Fed reserve system was put into place and the Income tax amendment was put into place ( to Pay for the interest from borrowing money from the Fed).
The USA has sold it soul. The Corruption at the top for the last 40 years is mind boggling. The chickens are coming home to roost.
Every econoimic disaster we have had has been caused by private industry not the government. and if you can disprove that go ahead.
FDR was not about the economy. He wanted to help the people. Say what you will, but FDR was no coward like Hoover. He saw the problems and he took steps to fix them. You can't blame the man for cring about his fellow Americans. More politicians should be so kind.
free market economics isn't perfect. it's deregulated nature lends itself for much abuse.
some degree of contro must exist, some rules have to be followed in order for true economic development in a country to occur.
Sure, I guess you could say that. IMO he was disillusioned, he thought he was doing so much good that he was blind to how his efforts only did the exact opposite of his intentions.
Hoover was not a coward, he just had almost ZERO experience leading a country or being a politician , he was a engineer for god sakes. Everyone knows that if you put someone with no experience up to task he is going to fail quite a bit until he learns the ropes. 4 years is not enough time. Sounds like someone else we all know doesn't it?