The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

DIY-HP-LED

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Russia has elections, so he has his model. You get to chose between trump and a candidate he picks, who won't campaign, who will support trump, and who would never be chosen by an electoral college controlled by trump.

It's easy. They don't even need to do that. Just watch them.

Democracy is already dead in this country. The people just don't realize it yet. There will be no violent uprising. The regime won't be overthrown, There will be a few whimpers. But tat is about it.

The orange mushroomhead is on the teevee now saying how jina is rigging the election because they don't like his trade deal. That is the groundwork to invalidate elections. They will steal not just one election, they will steal dozens of them.
I'm a bit more optimistic, we will soon see how things will turn out and if America fails the national IQ test yet again. A mistake this time around could be fatal. I do think that the fact that Donald is a fucking idiot will save America, if he had a brain he'd be a lot more dangerous, though evil and stupid is bad enough.
 
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Ripped Farmer

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you don't make the rules mr. mine all mine..and since that's all they pay for them, i'm sure you go and find yourself one and steal it , don't you?

that's what righties do.

frazier fir in sofla are $75+ at a stand and about 25% less at publix.

do you go to publix in the middle of the night and take one?

that's what righties do..they help themselves to which doesn't belong to them..kinda like that brett kavanaugh pig.

No, we buy a few hundred every year and then mark them up 500% and sell them.

It feels like stealing because its easy money.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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i would hope to god that that would be the trigger on the impeachment gun....give him the power, the second he uses it, it becomes undeniable evidence of his collusion. NO other reason to pardon anyone involved in this entire investigation. EVERYONE indicted so far is guilty as fuck....the only question left is what to do with this fucking shitbag while he's still in office.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Monologue: Courting Disaster | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
Bill recaps the top stories of the week, including the ongoing battle over SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

New Rule: Church and Destroy | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
In his editorial New Rule, Bill commemorates the 10th anniversary of "Religulous" and notes the similarities between President Trump and the God of the Old Testament.
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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Looks like Donald might have fucked up the Kavanaugh nomination too, Trump apparently coached him and insisted on a belligerent and pugnacious attitude before the committee that most likely included easily proved perjury, all no doubt to please Trump. Now Trump just cut Mitch McConnell's throat when he caved in on the FBI investigation and pulled the rug out from under everybody including Kavanaugh who could be charged with perjury at some future date (typical Trump behavior). I think that when the FBI looks into this they will find Kavanaugh lied to the senate about being a virgin choir boy etc, he told numerous falsehoods during his testimony that contrary FBI interviews can prove. In any case his performance in the hearing was disqualifying and he proved he perjured himself under previous testimony by claiming impartiality when he was clearly a biased political operative.

This SCOTUS mess along with the russian treason, the cruel border fiasco, the failed Puerto Rico response, the general chaos, confusion and incompetence can't play well for the republicans among voters who want to survive. America can do much better than this bunch of clowns, for fuck sakes vote, a landslide is required to survive as a free country. Dispose of the clown and the clowns that support him, then move on, ya got a lot of lost ground to make up.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You need more like this guy, the gutless wonders in the GOP will have a hard time with the democratic veterans running this time around.
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Courage is the queen of the virtues for without courage, none of the others matter much in a pinch. I'd vote for this fucker in a heartbeat and I figure a lot of folks from WV will too.:clap:
 
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Roger A. Shrubber

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/01/trump-reporter-insult-854870

i find it interesting that while some presidents have had less than perfect relationships with the press, none of them have been openly antagonistic, combative, and insulting to them, either.
Thomas Jefferson and John Adams had a great mudslinging fight in ally owned newspapers....
"During Jefferson’s campaign against John Adams, both men used the press to levy insults at each other. Jefferson-allied papers accused President Adams of being a hermaphrodite and a hypocrite, while Adams’ camp attacked Jefferson’s racial heritage, accusing him of being “the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father” as well as an atheist and libertine. But though Jefferson’s relationship with the press was complicated, he was still a staunch advocate for press freedom, stating “the only security of all is in a free press.”"

Nixon was raked over the coals mercilessly in the media (deservedly so), and so was Bill Clinton.
they were all treated much more harshly than trump has been treated, and still managed to maintain a cordial relationship with the press in public.
but that's because they were politicians, their careers were built on being able to compromise, on being able to reach a consensus....whereas trumps career seems to have been built on lying, stealing from contractors, and a big fat loan from his father.
Teddy Roosevelt would give reporters information on Sunday night, and watch the common people on Monday for their reactions, and would base many of his decisions on those reactions. He was so popular with the people that his opponents were afraid to attack him openly.
But trump has decided that instead of making friends with the press, and using them as a very handy tool, it's a better idea to not only alienate them, it's a good idea to actively attack them. to call them liars. to act the injured party....
while i don't imagine that there is any news outlet that has no bias, their basic function is to inform people of facts. those facts have to be verifiable, or the news agency leaves itself open to legal action. carefully count the number of legal actions brought against news outlets by trump.....
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Despite what Mitch McConnell and the republicans want, it doesn't look good for Kavanaugh's SCOTUS nomination. If the allegations against him are true he might have to resign his current position as a judge. Perjury would cost him the job too if the democrats take the senate. Trump tried to limit the investigation but the cat is out of the bag now, Trump caved on limiting things today and the press is all over it now.

If this clown is confirmed and the democrats win the senate he will probably be indicted for perjury and forced to resign, no need to impeach him he ain't the POTUS, a supreme court seat doesn't fit into a jail cell very well and robes don't look right on a convicted criminal. Hey maybe Trump would pardon him, but that would involve an admission of guilt etc. It would be a real mess alright and maybe the Dems might want to look into Gorsuch's background too, since the GOP lied and misled on this nomination. Maybe you'll have a double header on the SCOTUS, remember truth is stranger than fiction of late, anything seems possible, Trump is president after all...
 
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Herb & Suds

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Despite what Mitch McConnell and the republicans want, it doesn't look good for Kavanaugh's SCOTUS nomination. If the allegations against him are true he might have to resign his current position as a judge. Perjury would cost him the job too if the democrats take the senate. Trump tried to limit the investigation but the cat is out of the bag now, Trump caved on limiting things today and the press is all over it now.

If this clown is confirmed and the democrats win the senate he will probably be indicted for perjury and forced to resign, no need to impeach him he ain't the POTUS, a supreme court seat doesn't fit into a jail cell very well and robes don't look right on a convicted criminal. Hey maybe Trump would pardon him, but that would involve an admission of guilt etc. It would be a real mess alright and maybe the Dems might want to look into Gorsuch's background too, since the GOP lied and misled on this nomination. Maybe you'll have a double header on the SCOTUS, remember truth is stranger than fiction of late, anything seems possible, Trump is president after all...
Booyah !
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I wonder what Donald would do in the event of a giant blue wave taking the house and senate, he'd be facing a very different congress in january. This SCOTUS bullshit going on in the senate now can't be helping the republicans senate candidates at the polls and whole states can't be gerrymandered. I hope this guy is right...
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DIY-HP-LED

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Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes
as He Reaped Riches From His Father

The president has long sold himself as a self-made billionaire, but a Times investigation found that he received at least $413 million in today’s dollars from his father’s real estate empire, much of it through tax dodges in the 1990s.

By DAVID BARSTOW, SUSANNE CRAIG and RUSS BUETTNER
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html
Oct. 2, 2018
President Trump participated in dubious tax schemes during the 1990s, including instances of outright fraud, that greatly increased the fortune he received from his parents, an investigation by The New York Times has found.

Mr. Trump won the presidency proclaiming himself a self-made billionaire, and he has long insisted that his father, the legendary New York City builder Fred C. Trump, provided almost no financial help.

But The Times’s investigation, based on a vast trove of confidential tax returns and financial records, reveals that Mr. Trump received the equivalent today of at least $413 million from his father’s real estate empire, starting when he was a toddler and continuing to this day.

Much of this money came to Mr. Trump because he helped his parents dodge taxes. He and his siblings set up a sham corporation to disguise millions of dollars in gifts from their parents, records and interviews show. Records indicate that Mr. Trump helped his father take improper tax deductions worth millions more. He also helped formulate a strategy to undervalue his parents’ real estate holdings by hundreds of millions of dollars on tax returns, sharply reducing the tax bill when those properties were transferred to him and his siblings.

These maneuvers met with little resistance from the Internal Revenue Service, The Times found. The president’s parents, Fred and Mary Trump, transferred well over $1 billion in wealth to their children, which could have produced a tax bill of at least $550 million under the 55 percent tax rate then imposed on gifts and inheritances.

The Trumps paid a total of $52.2 million, or about 5 percent, tax records show.

The president declined repeated requests over several weeks to comment for this article. But a lawyer for Mr. Trump, Charles J. Harder, provided a written statement on Monday, one day after The Times sent a detailed description of its findings. “The New York Times’s allegations of fraud and tax evasion are 100 percent false, and highly defamatory,” Mr. Harder said. “There was no fraud or tax evasion by anyone. The facts upon which The Times bases its false allegations are extremely inaccurate.”

Mr. Harder sought to distance Mr. Trump from the tax strategies used by his family, saying the president had delegated those tasks to relatives and tax professionals. “President Trump had virtually no involvement whatsoever with these matters,” he said. “The affairs were handled by other Trump family members who were not experts themselves and therefore relied entirely upon the aforementioned licensed professionals to ensure full compliance with the law.”

[Read the full statement]

The president’s brother, Robert Trump, issued a statement on behalf of the Trump family:

“Our dear father, Fred C. Trump, passed away in June 1999. Our beloved mother, Mary Anne Trump, passed away in August 2000. All appropriate gift and estate tax returns were filed, and the required taxes were paid. Our father’s estate was closed in 2001 by both the Internal Revenue Service and the New York State tax authorities, and our mother’s estate was closed in 2004. Our family has no other comment on these matters that happened some 20 years ago, and would appreciate your respecting the privacy of our deceased parents, may God rest their souls.”

The Times’s findings raise new questions about Mr. Trump’s refusal to release his income tax returns, breaking with decades of practice by past presidents. According to tax experts, it is unlikely that Mr. Trump would be vulnerable to criminal prosecution for helping his parents evade taxes, because the acts happened too long ago and are past the statute of limitations. There is no time limit, however, on civil fines for tax fraud.

The findings are based on interviews with Fred Trump’s former employees and advisers and more than 100,000 pages of documents describing the inner workings and immense profitability of his empire. They include documents culled from public sources — mortgages and deeds, probate records, financial disclosure reports, regulatory records and civil court files.

The investigation also draws on tens of thousands of pages of confidential records — bank statements, financial audits, accounting ledgers, cash disbursement reports, invoices and canceled checks. Most notably, the documents include more than 200 tax returns from Fred Trump, his companies and various Trump partnerships and trusts. While the records do not include the president’s personal tax returns and reveal little about his recent business dealings at home and abroad, dozens of corporate, partnership and trust tax returns offer the first public accounting of the income he received for decades from various family enterprises.

[11 takeaways from The Times’s investigation]

What emerges from this body of evidence is a financial biography of the 45th president fundamentally at odds with the story Mr. Trump has sold in his books, his TV shows and his political life. In Mr. Trump’s version of how he got rich, he was the master dealmaker who broke free of his father’s “tiny” outer-borough operation and parlayed a single $1 million loan from his father (“I had to pay him back with interest!”) into a $10 billion empire that would slap the Trump name on hotels, high-rises, casinos, airlines and golf courses the world over. In Mr. Trump’s version, it was always his guts and gumption that overcame setbacks. Fred Trump was simply a cheerleader.

“I built what I built myself,” Mr. Trump has said, a narrative that was long amplified by often-credulous coverage from news organizations, including The Times.

Certainly a handful of journalists and biographers, notably Wayne Barrett, Gwenda Blair, David Cay Johnston and Timothy L. O’Brien, have challenged this story, especially the claim of being worth $10 billion. They described how Mr. Trump piggybacked off his father’s banking connections to gain a foothold in Manhattan real estate. They poked holes in his go-to talking point about the $1 million loan, citing evidence that he actually got $14 million. They told how Fred Trump once helped his son make a bond payment on an Atlantic City casino by buying $3.5 million in casino chips.

But The Times’s investigation of the Trump family’s finances is unprecedented in scope and precision, offering the first comprehensive look at the inherited fortune and tax dodges that guaranteed Donald J. Trump a gilded life. The reporting makes clear that in every era of Mr. Trump’s life, his finances were deeply intertwined with, and dependent on, his father’s wealth.
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