The "D" day pool, best guess as to when Trump is out

greg nr

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So, do you guys get it yet? The GOP will never, ever, raise a finger to stop or even slow down trump. He is they. And they are corrupt. Through and through, and they don't care what murica thinks about it.

They will hold on to power. They will kill democracy to do it. Ignoring facts is child's play. Ignoring crimes is easy. Appointing a perjuring serial rapist to a lifetime appointment in a position where he can literally rewrite the constitution is a no brainer.

Next, invalidating elections and imprisoning the opposition. Welcome to stalingrad.
 

Herb & Suds

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So, do you guys get it yet? The GOP will never, ever, raise a finger to stop or even slow down trump. He is they. And they are corrupt. Through and through, and they don't care what murica thinks about it.

They will hold on to power. They will kill democracy to do it. Ignoring facts is child's play. Ignoring crimes is easy. Appointing a perjuring serial rapist to a lifetime appointment in a position where he can literally rewrite the constitution is a no brainer.

Next, invalidating elections and imprisoning the opposition. Welcome to stalingrad.
Vote Blue in November our vote is all any of us can do
 

topcat

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I get it. I've thought of it a lot, but I have to resist the feeling that justice will not prevail. The alternative is a drag on my psyche. It fucks with my happiness. Still, I'm armed and ready for any possible outcome.
 

Fogdog

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So, do you guys get it yet? The GOP will never, ever, raise a finger to stop or even slow down trump. He is they. And they are corrupt. Through and through, and they don't care what murica thinks about it.

They will hold on to power. They will kill democracy to do it. Ignoring facts is child's play. Ignoring crimes is easy. Appointing a perjuring serial rapist to a lifetime appointment in a position where he can literally rewrite the constitution is a no brainer.

Next, invalidating elections and imprisoning the opposition. Welcome to stalingrad.
That is their goal, I agree. I don't think they are in the position of doing what you say just yet.

My prediction is that Trump's GOP loses the House, keeps the Senate and Trump stay in power as President. The economy tanks next year or 2020, right wingers blame Democrats because "obstruction by Democrats" and Trump's thugs take their violence onto the streets with his blessings. After that they try to implement the things you say. I don't think it will be a successful coup but it's going to get rough for the next decade or so.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So, do you guys get it yet? The GOP will never, ever, raise a finger to stop or even slow down trump. He is they. And they are corrupt. Through and through, and they don't care what murica thinks about it.

They will hold on to power. They will kill democracy to do it. Ignoring facts is child's play. Ignoring crimes is easy. Appointing a perjuring serial rapist to a lifetime appointment in a position where he can literally rewrite the constitution is a no brainer.

Next, invalidating elections and imprisoning the opposition. Welcome to stalingrad.
We'll have less than 7 weeks to find out if that right wing fantasy will come true, I'm hoping not. People need to realise they can do more than just vote, they can help others too by driving them to the polls or helping with mail in ballots etc and they can help register them as well, they can donate money, volunteer and knock on doors. You do live in a democratic republic and even though it's not functioning as intended by the founders, the levers of power are still in the hands of the people. The problem is racism, hatred, fear, political tribalism and history amplifies the 30 some percent of the population in any society who are arseholes and idiots and sometimes puts them over the top in elections.

I think Donald fucked up the golden opportunity that the GOP thought they had to cement their position of power, instead 30 states are up for grabs along with the senate, the house is gone it's just a question of by how much. If the GOP gets a whooping in november it will get real interesting between then and january 20th, Donald will know he is about to get run over by a train then, so will the entire WH staff. Mueller's conclusions on the first part of the russia investigation might be presented to congress about then.

We'll have to see if he's gonna fire Rosenstein this week, that might trigger other things unknown to the public or Trump. Everybody has had lots of time to prepare for this shit and plans have been made, these folks are smarter than Donald. If the republicans win the midterms you can forget about the Mueller investigation, freedom and democracy too, the people would get the government they deserve, Donald on steroids with total power. I'd be sponsoring you folks as refugees here in Canada long before Trump cancelled the 2020 election, then again if it got to that Canada would be in deep trouble too
 
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schuylaar

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Real trees or santa should skip your house.
you don't make the rules mr. mine all mine..and since that's all they pay for them, i'm sure you go and find yourself one and steal it , don't you?

that's what righties do.

frazier fir in sofla are $75+ at a stand and about 25% less at publix.

do you go to publix in the middle of the night and take one?

that's what righties do..they help themselves to which doesn't belong to them..kinda like that brett kavanaugh pig.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The world is laughing at America, in a typical western parliamentary democracy after the ample evidence of treason, incompetence and dereliction of duty the republicans would likely lose every single seat in parliament and would never recover from the disaster. The fact that the GOP is still a player in the midterm elections speaks to the widespread racism, political tribalism and broken two party political system. The fact that Trump is still in office proves the American political system is broken. You can no longer afford the luxury of such utter bullshit, the world is passing you by while you're busy cutting your own throat while watching a clown show on TV. The world is laughing and crying at the same time, you are the richest country on the planet and have it all, but a lot of people don't like brown folks and are willing to destroy their own country over it.

Only an idiot or a traitor would vote for a republican in november, there's no real choice for a patriot. If the majority of Americans are patriots you may survive, if the majority are traitors you cannot. Six weeks until we find out if the country survives, a close election after the two years of bullshit & turmoil America has endured would mean the country is fucked. A landslide would mean the end of Donald as POTUS and the beginning of his and his families indictments, trials and imprisonment. Trump is the kind of person your founding fathers warned you about, take heed.
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‘People actually laughed at a president’: At U.N. speech, Trump suffers the fate he always feared
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/people-actually-laughed-at-a-president-at-un-speech-trump-suffers-the-fate-he-always-feared/2018/09/25/990b1d52-c0eb-11e8-90c9-23f963eea204_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.d3566dcfbf6c

By David Nakamura
September 25 at 5:14 PM
UNITED NATIONS — President Trump has long argued that the United States has been taken advantage of by other nations — a “laughing stock to the entire World,” he said on Twitter in 2014 — and his political rise was based on the premise that he had the strength and resolve to change that.

But at the U.N. General Assembly on Tuesday, Trump got a comeuppance on the world’s biggest stage. Delivering a speech that aimed to establish U.S. “sovereignty” over the whims and needs of other nations, the president’s triumphant moment was marred in the first minute when he was met by laughter — at his expense.

The embarrassing exchange came when Trump boasted that his administration had accomplished more over two years than “almost any administration” in American history, eliciting audible guffaws in the cavernous chamber hall. The president appeared startled. “Didn’t expect that reaction,” he said, “but that’s okay.” Members of the audience chuckled again — perhaps this time in sympathy.

Trump continued his address, which lasted an additional 34 minutes, but the moment marked a pointed rejoinder from the international community to a president who has delighted in poking traditional U.S. allies and partners in the eye on trade, security alliances and general diplomatic bonhomie.

“He has always been obsessed that people are laughing at the president. From the mid-’80s, he’s said: ‘The world is laughing at us. They think we’re fools,’ ” said Thomas Wright, a Europe analyst at the Brookings Institution. “It’s never been true, but he’s said it about every president. It’s the first time I’m aware of that people actually laughed at a president. I think it is going to drive him absolutely crazy. It will play to every insecurity he has.”


For Trump, the moment wasn’t just embarrassing. It also punctured one of the core fabulist assertions of a president who has, according to Washington Post fact-checkers, made more than 5,000 false or misleading statements since taking office. As the midterm elections approach, Trump has begun boasting of a long list of accomplishments for his administration, at one point reciting them at a recent campaign rally from two pieces of paper that he pulled from his suit jacket.

In doing so, the president typically has claimed sweeping success and placed himself favorably in historical comparison to the nation’s greatest leaders. At a rally in Springfield, Mo., last week, Trump was wrapping up an hour-long address to supporters with some flowery teleprompter prose about the courage of America’s founders when he strayed from the script to assert that his election in 2016 was “the greatest movement in the history of our country.” At the United Nations, Trump’s claim to have done more in less than two years than most of the 44 previous administrations defied any bounds of reality — or hubris. The difference was that he was not talking to a room full of excited, red-hat-wearing “MAGA” supporters who cheer him on.

German delegation at U.N. appears to laugh at Trump
Germany's delegation at the U.N. General Assembly appeared to laugh during President Trump's speech on Sept. 25. (Reuters)
“On one hand, you feel, ‘Oh, God, how awful that the American president is being laughed at on the world stage,’ ” said Julie Smith, who served as deputy national security adviser to Vice President Joe Biden.
“But on the other hand, you kind of feel good that Trump was finally escaping the bubble of political rallies that continually gives him the impression that everyone agrees with the false claims he is making,” said Smith, who watched Trump’s speech from Berlin, where she is spending a year as a fellow at the Bosch Academy. “There was a moment I thought to myself, ‘This is good that the president is being exposed to how the rest of the world sees him.’ ”


Though the world leaders’ laughter at the United Nations was spontaneous, there might have been a bit of extra feeling behind it among some of the delegates in the room. TV cameras caught German diplomats chuckling — perhaps a form of release after relations between Trump and Chancellor Angela Merkel got off to a bad start and have continued to devolve. Last year, Germans attending a conference at the Economic Council of the Christian Democratic Union in Berlin laughed and applauded after Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross’s microphone was cut off in mid-sentence after he spoke past his allotted time via video feed. Merkel then rebutted parts of his remarks in her own speech.

On social media, Trump’s critics quickly mocked him on Tuesday.

“American Presidents used to set the global agenda at the UNGA. Now Trump gets laughed at,” tweeted Ben Rhodes, who as a top national security aide to President Barack Obama helped craft U.N. speeches. “The world just laughed @realDonaldTrump,” comedian Wanda Sykes tweeted. Referring to the famed theater in Harlem in which the audience boos and heckles bad performers offstage, she added, “Stay tuned, they might go full ‘Showtime at the Apollo’ on him.” By the afternoon, Trump was projecting an air of nonchalance, telling reporters that his boast in the speech “was meant to get some laughter.” But most observers weren’t buying it from a president who seldom laughs at himself and whose default expression is an unsparing glare. “It’s got to hurt,” said Wright, the Brookings Institution analyst. “It was on camera and it was spontaneous. It was on one of the biggest stages in the world.”
 

greg nr

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This is game, set, match folks.
New: Orrin Hatch has quietly weighed in on an upcoming Supreme Court case that could expand Trump’s pardon power. He argues that the dual sovereignty doctrine, which allows for fed and state prosecution of the same crime, should be put to rest. My latest: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/09/trump-pardon-orrin-hatch-supreme-court/571285/ …
What this means is that if the scotus changes this exception, a pardon at the federal level will prevent charges at the state level.

Trump will never be charged. His family will never be charged. His companies will never be charged. He will keep all the money he has stolen.

Now do you get why kavenaugh, why now? Trump is going scorched earth on this. And so is the gop.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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This is game, set, match folks.


What this means is that if the scotus changes this exception, a pardon at the federal level will prevent charges at the state level.

Trump will never be charged. His family will never be charged. His companies will never be charged. He will keep all the money he has stolen.

Now do you get why kavanaugh, why now? Trump is going scorched earth on this. And so is the gop.
And so will the otherside, some people really do love their country and there will be trouble, bigly trouble, they aren't gonna lay down and play dead, are you? Feel like fighting more than ever, or giving up? If some of the criminal accusations coming out about Kavanaugh are true he will be impeached or resign. Trump will NOT get away with this and neither will his family, they are going down bigly or there will be civil war, no peace without justice.

Up here in Canada I'm just gonna wait it out, it's all up to you folks, vote, volunteer, donate, register people and try to talk sense into the Trumpers in your life. The midterm election in 5 weeks is one of the most important in American history the continued existence of the country as a free nation under the rule of law is at stake. The country is about to pass judgement on Trump and those who enable him, will hate destroy America or not?

I believe the republicans will pay a terrible price for what they have done and more importantly for what they have not, their constitutional duty. I hope for all of our sakes (including stupid Trumpers) that I'm right because the alternative is very frightening indeed.
 

greg nr

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Just explaining how democracy is dying before our eyes. Wait until they invalidate midterm elections they don't like. They aren't giving up power now that they have it. It will take a musolini solution. But that is not a sure thing by any means.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Just explaining how democracy is dying before our eyes. Wait until they invalidate midterm elections they don't like. They aren't giving up power now that they have it. It will take a musolini solution. But that is not a sure thing by any means.
Hey, Trump is capable of anything, but everybody else is not nearly that stupid. The republicans know they are gonna get an unGodly fucking at the polls in november and are desperate, it's an indication that Mitch McConnell thinks he's gonna lose the senate in a year when they should have picked up seats. There are 30 GOP senate seats up for grabs in 2020 and the stink of Trump will still be thick in the air, even though he'll be just a bad memory by then. Imagine what the investigations, prosecutions and national commissions might reveil in the months and weeks leading up to that election. All those senators will have tons of video of them sucking Trump's ass and the TV ad the will be run against them by a fully aroused opposition will be astounding A half dozen GOP senators might go independent after the election, the dems caucus the three now. Also with the republican Trump "base" now a bunch of lunatics, what kind of candidates do you think they will vomit up in 2020?
 

greg nr

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Hey, Trump is capable of anything, but everybody else is not nearly that stupid. The republicans know they are gonna get an unGodly fucking at the polls in november and are desperate, it's an indication that Mitch McConnell thinks he's gonna lose the senate in a year when they should have picked up seats. There are 30 GOP senate seats up for grabs in 2020 and the stink of Trump will still be thick in the air, even though he'll be just a bad memory by then. Imagine what the investigations, prosecutions and national commissions might reveil in the months and weeks leading up to that election. All those senators will have tons of video of them sucking Trump's ass and the TV ad the will be run against them by a fully aroused opposition will be astounding A half dozen GOP senators might go independent after the election, the dems caucus the three now. Also with the republican Trump "base" now a bunch of lunatics, what kind of candidates do you think they will vomit up in 2020?
You are assuming there will be national elections held in 2020? How quaint.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You are assuming there will be national elections held in 2020? How quaint.
There had better be, or somebody is gonna die, if I know my Americans. America has had elections during the civil war and Lincoln was reelected then, so canceling the elections would require a nuke or two and Vlad's help for sure. Like I said Trump himself is capable of anything, but those around him are not nearly as stupid and desperate. If Trump loses it means prison for the rest of his miserable existence and he would do anything to avoid it and the humiliation that would go along with it.

Your allies are not gonna let the russians run wild on the internet, but will and are taking action, also your own people don't need orders to act on this one, everybody is watching and knows the score, except Trump that is.

Look on the bright side, there's a very good possibility that Donald will cause a government shutdown before the election! He did want Vlad to visit him at the WH a few days before the midterms, but Mitch and the GOP leadership convinced him it would be suicide (for him and them). There's no cure for Donald's kind of stupid except a bullet or impeachment and a rubber room.
 
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greg nr

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Russia has elections, so he has his model. You get to chose between trump and a candidate he picks, who won't campaign, who will support trump, and who would never be chosen by an electoral college controlled by trump.

It's easy. They don't even need to do that. Just watch them.

Democracy is already dead in this country. The people just don't realize it yet. There will be no violent uprising. The regime won't be overthrown, There will be a few whimpers. But tat is about it.

The orange mushroomhead is on the teevee now saying how jina is rigging the election because they don't like his trade deal. That is the groundwork to invalidate elections. They will steal not just one election, they will steal dozens of them.
 
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