The Coming Of Cheesus

Niko Bellick said:

View attachment 1721326View attachment 1721328View attachment 1721329View attachment 1721330Okay so who can spot the growth abnormality??

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crazy split leaf like that, doesnt look unhealthy or bad at all. the seedling looks great niko. should start to blow up now.

drgreentm said:

crazy split leaf like that, doesnt look unhealthy or bad at all. the seedling looks great niko. should start to blow up now.

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Yeah its perfectly healthy just weird lookin haha. So far the node spacing is super tight (so far) shes 4 inches tall and 4 inches across. Nice short bushy Indica. Upped the ppm too 350 from 300ish. What roots I can see coming out of the rapid rooter look nice thick and healthy. It says use only first two weeks of veg and flower but I'm gonna keep using the voodoo til the roots get down too the res. Tempted to start the Blue Widow haha

Slow your roll a little bit.
It is a process that takes patience. Just gotta let em do their thing.
I ran mine the first week or so with no nutes and they grew just fine.
Not trying to tell you how to grow at all.
Just wanna see you get a good yield and sit back and enjoy the grow instead of rush it.
You don't need any nutes in the rez now, but since they are already in there.
I'd leave the PPM alone for at least a week and let them get used to the nutes and start drinking them before you force more nutes on them.
You are on a fast track to nute burn if you keep going that rate. IMO.
The best way to get faster and better growth is to use a Good Light!
CFL's work but not nearly as well as MH/HPS..
One thing I have been focusing on in my grow this round is water temps.
I try to keep it around 63-67 and have kept my PPMs lower and use less nutes.
I never got over 1000 PPM in veg and only at 1400 PPM now in 5 weeks of 12/12. Just trying to help ya out bro.

BluBerry said:

Slow your roll a little bit.
It is a process that takes patience. Just gotta let em do their thing.
I ran mine the first week or so with no nutes and they grew just fine.
Not trying to tell you how to grow at all.
Just wanna see you get a good yield and sit back and enjoy the grow instead of rush it.
You don't need any nutes in the rez now, but since they are already in there.
I'd leave the PPM alone for at least a week and let them get used to the nutes and start drinking them before you force more nutes on them.
You are on a fast track to nute burn if you keep going that rate. IMO.
The best way to get faster and better growth is to use a Good Light!
CFL's work but not nearly as well as MH/HPS..
One thing I have been focusing on in my grow this round is water temps.
I try to keep it around 63-67 and have kept my PPMs lower and use less nutes.
I never got over 1000 PPM in veg and only at 1400 PPM now in 5 weeks of 12/12. Just trying to help ya out bro.

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I'm always impatient haha, but I won't do anything thats going to harm the plant.
It's a force of habit, after the plants come out of the humidity dome and into net pots I've always run low strength nutes and never had a problem. Though I understand where your coming from.
Only reason I did a res change is because the PH tends to jump alot because of the limited res size on this water farm. I've had to add ALOT of ph up and down to keep it in check. Was worried it would start to adversely affect the plant.
I agree with you on the light. I've already bought a 600 watt hps with air cooled reflector etc. Not even going to bother using it til I get the grow room in the spare bathroom set up so I can have adequate ventilation. so for now I'll just continue biting the T5/CFL bullet.
Got the waterfarm sitting in a five gallonish cooler with those big medical ice packs on either side. fish tank thermometer reads 64 as of a few minutes ago
I always appreciate the advice brother. Spos I should've posted my reasoning for the res change though haha.

Niko Bellick said:

Yeah its perfectly healthy just weird lookin haha. So far the node spacing is super tight (so far) shes 4 inches tall and 4 inches across. Nice short bushy Indica. Upped the ppm too 350 from 300ish. What roots I can see coming out of the rapid rooter look nice thick and healthy. It says use only first two weeks of veg and flower but I'm gonna keep using the voodoo til the roots get down too the res. Tempted to start the Blue Widow haha

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your doing great bro i start my seeds on 1/4 strength as soon as they are in a system and out the dome, i ran my last ones on 300 ppm right out the gate and within the next week they where very light and weak looking so i pushed them up to 600 and added calmag then withing another week they where still very hungry so upped to 900 and shortly after that they hit flower over a foot tall looking amazing in a flood tray and in nothing more than a 4x4x4 RW cube. i think your ppm is on point and is exactly where mine would be at this point, keep up the good work.

drgreentm said:

your doing great bro i start my seeds on 1/4 strength as soon as they are in a system and out the dome, i ran my last ones on 300 ppm right out the gate and within the next week they where very light and weak looking so i pushed them up to 600 and added calmag then withing another week they where still very hungry so upped to 900 and shortly after that they hit flower over a foot tall looking amazing in a flood tray and in nothing more than a 4x4x4 RW cube. i think your ppm is on point and is exactly where mine would be at this point, keep up the good work.

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Thanks for the vote of confidence brokowsky. Wish I could find more information on this strain, all the site says is pay constant attention etc. makes it sound like a finicky plant but who knows, shes nice and healthy looking. Just gonna go off what the plant tells me.

Hey, you flood and drain. My new bathroom grow room is going to be flood and drain. My tub is 2x4.8 I want to use two trays one that is 2x3 and one that is 1x2 (or close enough to hold eight 6"x6" pots) been looking all over and can't find a whole lot. Any ideas good sir?

Niko Bellick said:

Thanks for the vote of confidence brokowsky. Wish I could find more information on this strain, all the site says is pay constant attention etc. makes it sound like a finicky plant but who knows, shes nice and healthy looking. Just gonna go off what the plant tells me.

Hey, you flood and drain. My new bathroom grow room is going to be flood and drain. My tub is 2x4.8 I want to use two trays one that is 2x3 and one that is 1x2 (or close enough to hold eight 6"x6" pots) been looking all over and can't find a whole lot. Any ideas good sir?

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you got any shots of the space your going to be working with?? are you going to be using the trays inside the tub.

drgreentm said:

you got any shots of the space your going to be working with?? are you going to be using the trays inside the tub.

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yeah I'll post a pic of a bathroom exactly like what I'll be working in. I'm going to build a pvc table inside the tube so not actually sitting in the tub.

im in for the ride here.....i get my cheesus seeds next week...cant wait to see how yours goes........yours are looking nice and green

greenjoe said:

im in for the ride here.....i get my cheesus seeds next week...cant wait to see how yours goes........yours are looking nice and green

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Hell yeah I like to have someone to compare notes with. Feminized? how many are you growing? what method?

3 fem seeds...i still don't know if i should go hydro or soil....

hydro cost a bit more to set up but is way easyer to use, soils cheaper but is more time consuming

greenjoe said:

3 fem seeds...i still don't know if i should go hydro or soil....

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Personally I've never grown Cannabis in soil. I've always enjoyed hydro as there are so many more options available to the grower, dwc,aero,drip,ebb and flow etc etc. you can always reinvent your growing style with hydroponics.

hellraizer30 said:

hydro cost a bit more to set up but is way easyer to use, soils cheaper but is more time consuming

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Maybe you can give your opinion on this debate I am having with one of my friends. He grows soil and refuses to grow using hydroponics as he claims you get more taste with soil grown. I always argue back that potency goes up as well as you tend too finish a week or so sooner with hydro. You've grown both methods, what do you think?

my opinion, if u want one dwc is the way, i have done soil, rockwool and hydro. all taste as good as eachother, but dwc is awesome for growth rate and yield, never mind ease of growing, no mess , medium from the tap ffs ... the secret i think is in the flush, which again is easier with dwc, one min they gt nutes available, quick bucket change and hey presto now its jus water i still flush for 10 days or so in dwc, by this point the plant is yellow, and she always tastes great..

as for cost, u can set yaself up abucket for 15 quid, and that will last u years, u can re use the hydroton pebbles, the net pot ( unless split by dreadlock roots ) and water is in the tap,, grow one plant and yield as much as 2/3 soil grown plants hmmmmm easy choice for me, although others are bound to diagree, or at least we hope so

sweetsmoker said:

my opinion, if u want one dwc is the way, i have done soil, rockwool and hydro. all taste as good as eachother, but dwc is awesome for growth rate and yield, never mind ease of growing, no mess , medium from the tap ffs ... the secret i think is in the flush, which again is easier with dwc, one min they gt nutes available, quick bucket change and hey presto now its jus water i still flush for 10 days or so in dwc, by this point the plant is yellow, and she always tastes great..

as for cost, u can set yaself up abucket for 15 quid, and that will last u years, u can re use the hydroton pebbles, the net pot ( unless split by dreadlock roots ) and water is in the tap,, grow one plant and yield as much as 2/3 soil grown plants hmmmmm easy choice for me, although others are bound to diagree, or at least we hope so

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Haha exactly. I've never noticed a taste difference either as I use grotek final flush for the last two weeks. larger investment in the beginning but eventually all your doing is buying nutes and the occasional bulb instead of lugging bags of soil in all the time.

Niko Bellick said:

Maybe you can give your opinion on this debate I am having with one of my friends. He grows soil and refuses to grow using hydroponics as he claims you get more taste with soil grown. I always argue back that potency goes up as well as you tend too finish a week or so sooner with hydro. You've grown both methods, what do you think?

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Hydro for shure, the only thing soil has over hydro i think is the smoke is a bit smoother

8/7/11 UPDATE: Nice and healthy, still waiting for that growth explosion.
Temp: 78 in room 65 In res
PH: 5.6 (oddly only rose to 6.0 overnite, only guess would be that this time I mixed nutes a day in advance and let em ''stabilize'')
PPM: 325
RH: Unknown, since it crapped out on me.

hellraizer30 said:

Hydro for shure, the only thing soil has over hydro i think is the smoke is a bit smoother

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Might just depend on how long you cure I spos. Though from what I read most cannabis cup entries are grown in soil. But until I inherit the family farm I'm a hydro man haha.

Ordered Bud Candy, Big Bud and Overdrive today. Should be well prepared for flower.

PH didn't change at all from yesterday but the PPM shot up to 394. I'm guessing I was feeding a tad strong.