The Collapse Thread; Post Evidence That 'The End Is Nigh'

[doublejj]

if Bernie gets the democratic nomination he has my vote...

 

[JayBio420]

This is a science and tech sub forum, in a collapse thread. Any chance you guys can take the politics to the politics area... No sense fighting.

Starting about 20 years ago, I started prepping as a means of upgrading my own capabilities against realistic threats. Over the years I stopped prepping large amounts of food and water, and focused more on knowledge and skills... gardening, firearm repair, the trades, staying in shape.

I definitely feel a lot more prepared now than I did with a massive storage of “supplies”.

Regardless of the causes of a possible nuclear conflict, I think we need to continue having this conversation about life during and after an event.

Anybody have anything to add, hopefully keeping it non-partisan...

 

[ttystikk]

I don't want my Gov trying to make a profit off me.....and Teslas kick ass

Seems to be working pretty well for Norway? Their sovereign wealth find is delivering all sorts of benefits to their citizens they'd have trouble affording otherwise.

But we get lots of benefits from all of our billionaires, right?

...right?

 

[ttystikk]

This is a science and tech sub forum, in a collapse thread. Any chance you guys can take the politics to the politics area... No sense fighting.

Starting about 20 years ago, I started prepping as a means of upgrading my own capabilities against realistic threats. Over the years I stopped prepping large amounts of food and water, and focused more on knowledge and skills... gardening, firearm repair, the trades, staying in shape.

I definitely feel a lot more prepared now than I did with a massive storage of “supplies”.

Regardless of the causes of a possible nuclear conflict, I think we need to continue having this conversation about life during and after an event.

Anybody have anything to add, hopefully keeping it non-partisan...

The only way humans will survive is if we learn how to get along.

Chernobyl alone could have irradiated the Earth to the point of killing humanity. Prepping won't fix that unless you live underground for several generations.

 

[Lucky Luke]

The only way humans will survive is if we learn how to get along.

Chernobyl alone could have irradiated the Earth to the point of killing humanity. Prepping won't fix that unless you live underground for several generations.

An interesting point. If something with a slightly better kill rate than the Black plague happens again then some nuclear facilities (science, energy and military) might not be able to be safely operated.

 

[Moldy]

This is a science and tech sub forum, in a collapse thread. Any chance you guys can take the politics to the politics area... No sense fighting.

Starting about 20 years ago, I started prepping as a means of upgrading my own capabilities against realistic threats. Over the years I stopped prepping large amounts of food and water, and focused more on knowledge and skills... gardening, firearm repair, the trades, staying in shape.

I definitely feel a lot more prepared now than I did with a massive storage of “supplies”.

Regardless of the causes of a possible nuclear conflict, I think we need to continue having this conversation about life during and after an event.

Anybody have anything to add, hopefully keeping it non-partisan...

It's really difficult to take politics out of this conversation. All you need to do is see what the current administration has done during their tenure. Pull out of the Paris Accord, EPA is dropping regulations that cost corporations money, assault on our public parks to start drilling for oil, etc. so it really does start in politics. You can't separate the two issues.

 

[JayBio420]

The only way humans will survive is if we learn how to get along.

Chernobyl alone could have irradiated the Earth to the point of killing humanity. Prepping won't fix that unless you live underground for several generations.

I like to take the viewpoint of being more prepared than most, for many dozens of possible scenarios. It wouldn’t have to be close or nuclear to have huge impacts on daily life. A fuel shortage would have serious implications where I live, causing people to run out of food and water, at which point people stop acting human. There have been many wildfires in my area of western Canada, these are increasing in number and have caused massive evacuations and record setting damage ecologically and financially.

My city had massive flooding several years ago which ruined some unprepared people’s lives. Science is showing an increase in these events.

I prepare for stuff like this, not nuclear Armageddon as much. If these events happened, I am not the type to say “Justin Trudeau could have prevented this”. Because I separate my collapse scenarios from my Canadian politics. Not all Rollitup members are American...

Edit: During the Fires and Floods, our communities came together and helped each other, sharing food and water and transport to get people out of the way. That is the Canadian way. You guys down south are fucked. (Jk?)
I am too, your nuke silos are not far south of me.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

This is a science and tech sub forum, in a collapse thread. Any chance you guys can take the politics to the politics area... No sense fighting.

Starting about 20 years ago, I started prepping as a means of upgrading my own capabilities against realistic threats. Over the years I stopped prepping large amounts of food and water, and focused more on knowledge and skills... gardening, firearm repair, the trades, staying in shape.

I definitely feel a lot more prepared now than I did with a massive storage of “supplies”.

Regardless of the causes of a possible nuclear conflict, I think we need to continue having this conversation about life during and after an event.

Anybody have anything to add, hopefully keeping it non-partisan...

i think that's a good plan. i learned how to do basic carpentry and masonry. how to garden, how to do leather work, and i'm a fair shot with a bow...i may not be the most valuable guy after shit hits the fan, but i can feed, house, and clothe myself, and anyone else who helps out....

 

[doublejj]

i think that's a good plan. i learned how to do basic carpentry and masonry. how to garden, how to do leather work, and i'm a fair shot with a bow...i may not be the most valuable guy after shit hits the fan, but i can feed, house, and clothe myself, and anyone else who helps out....

I have a remote off grid farm at 2000ft in mtns with 2 30x60 greenhouses and a 300' solar well and gravity fed water system.

 

[JayBio420]

I have a remote off grid farm at 2000ft in mtns with 2 30x60 greenhouses and a 300' solar well and gravity fed water system.

That’s what I’m talking about!

 

[ChiefRunningPhist]

Apophis.. When does it hit???
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/asteroids/news/asteroid20130110.html

Gene editing - what's the difference between creating a superior species and Hitler's Aryan race?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/673390/Richard-Dawkins-Designer-babies-HITLER-selfish-gene

As population booms and resources become scarce who will be accepted into the future and who will be left behind? How much gene editing is happening right now for the people who have possible access (ultra rich)? Will money decide who evolves and who goes extinct?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2018/11/29/chinese-gene-editing-experiment-was-an-outrage-broader-scientific-community-shares-some-blame/

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/wnxx4n/the-coming-genetic-editing-age-of-humans-wont-be-easy-to-stomach

Is the human race headed for speciation?
https://www.nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/speciation/

(What even happened to the Chinese scientist?)
https://www.sciencealert.com/there-are-rumours-that-chinese-crispr-scientist-he-jiankui-is-missing

(What militaries are conducting this research?)
https://www.rt.com/usa/412019-pentagon-darpa-gene-drive/


^^^That should put a little wood on the fire lolol

 

[Fogdog]

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

iceland is melting, there are islands of floating plastic trash the size of manhattan, we continue to dump more pollutants into the atmosphere, we're burning the amazon forest to make room for cows.....
we'll cause a global collapse, soon enough. there will be huge resource wars, which will reduce the population, and that will reduce the pollution. the ability to produce huge amounts of oil, to produce gmo strains of plants, to do too much damage at once, will be lost to us for quite a while....which will be a good thing, in the long run. with any luck what so ever, the survivors will pass down strict moral and ethical codes that prevent greed from destroying a whole civilization, again....

 

[JohnDee]

When Mt. St. Helens blew back in '80 my mom lived a mile from the US border just north of Bellingham, WA and woke up to a half inch of ash all over the place. She thought it had snowed in the middle of May.

Had the best lawn ever for the next few years.

I was going to school to learn aircraft mechanics when that happened. An FAA repairman's directive ordered complete teardown and inspection of any engine exposed to ash. Stuff was highly acidic and corrosive.
JD

 

[ttystikk]

This has turned into a good thread.

Lots of potential causes for societal collapse and lots of ways to mitigate same on an individual level.

How about the community level? The national level? FEMA has proven they're not up to the job, that's for sure!

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

ideas are easy, implementation requires work, and even more, requires participation...get people to show up to help out with their own ideas and i'll kiss your ass in the middle of main street, and i'll give you ten minutes to draw a crowd

 

[ttystikk]

ideas are easy, implementation requires work, and even more, requires participation...get people to show up to help out with their own ideas and i'll kiss your ass in the middle of main street, and i'll give you ten minutes to draw a crowd

There are solutions, it's a matter of getting people on board. In the case of America, that realistically means the 1%. Until they see the benefits, nothing will happen. Once they do, nothing will stop them.

 

[Lucky Luke]

I'd suggest that "the Oil Wars" have already started.
Iraq was about oil (yes, the establishment lied).
Afganastane was about the oil pipeline that the Taliban reneged on.
Iran.- America pulled out of the deal that every other signatory was happy with leading to sanctions by America and America pressuring other countries to do the same, piracy of oil tankers and in amongst all this is someone is attacking oil fields in Saudi.....

Note: not the first time Saudi oil fields have been targeted- same group or a different group? If someone different is behind it could it be America looking for greater reason to invade Iran?

 

[ttystikk]

I'd suggest that "the Oil Wars" have already started.
Iraq was about oil (yes, the establishment lied).
Afganastane was about the oil pipeline that the Taliban reneged on.
Iran.- America pulled out of the deal that every other signatory was happy with leading to sanctions by America and America pressuring other countries to do the same, piracy of oil tankers and in amongst all this is someone is attacking oil fields in Saudi.....

Note: not the first time Saudi oil fields have been targeted- same group or a different group? If someone different is behind it could it be America looking for greater reason to invade Iran?

Don't forget about Venezuela, with the world's largest oil reserves, or Syria where we wanted to install pipelines.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

There are solutions, it's a matter of getting people on board. In the case of America, that realistically means the 1%. Until they see the benefits, nothing will happen. Once they do, nothing will stop them.

the 1% already have things the way they want them...why would they want to change anything when the status quo keeps them in power?