What I stated was "pls don't do it from Alibaba. You can buy Chinese if that's what you want. However, buy through an American vendor and save yourself a lot of grief." Not don't buy. I don't knock anyone's choices. If they can be bought through an America supplier they will save themselves some grief if problems do come up and they have to return them.
So buy from an American supplier that just orders in bulk from Alibaba and then doubles the price? Yeah, I will pass. That defeats the whole purpose of buying a budget Chinese LED light. I haven't had any issues with customer service from Kingbrite which is an Alibaba supplier and their shipping is faster than a lot of places I order from that are located within the US.
Okay, trouble does that sound better??? "pls don't do it from Alibaba. You can buy Chinese if that's what you want. However, buy through an American vendor and save yourself a lot of grief" Pertaining to returns and resolving problems
Glad it works for you and double is a bit of a stretch.....Geek Beast Pro on Alibaba vs GBP website about $150 difference for peace of mind.
Every 75 pages of this thread there’s one of you dimwits piping in that never bothered to read the rest of this thread. Go ahead, shit it up further with your advice.
Okay genius.....or is that expert or just plain twat? FO
Most of the American vendors of alibaba-sourced gear are fly-by-night middlemen who order a shipping container load of gear to sell, mark it up, pimp it on Amazon or eBay, and disappear when it's all sold.
First, I want to apologise to all of you on this thread. At first I couldn't understand the hostility. I had several tabs open and saw the initial post that I commented on and gave my 2 cents. I didn't realize what your thread was about. That's completely my fault. It was like a giant fuck you to all of you. Definitely not my intent and your reaction was justified. Almost 220 pages of a thread and I was oblivious to it. Mea culpa. I hope you'll forgive my rudeness. Was not trolling you. We're all pursuing our passion.
3500 mate, nice to work under but doesn't show colours well on photographs I've found.
I will post a summary of the Hortibloom 1000W when I get it, I was told it can run at 1100W by the sales rep. I think that is Ridiculous and its definitely not a output I would feel comfortable with as far as diodes, driver longevity and uhhhh safety lol.
If your going to go through China then I'd go Meijiu. What I like about their panels is that every piece is independent so if you have an end bar or strip that shits the bed you can have a replacement one sent. This Hortibloom is all one piece and the rubber gaskets that seal all the connections between the strips looks shotty af in some spots. I can't speak on Kingbrites sorry.
I got the 3500k apparently.
I asked meijiu the same thing and the manager was the engineers tune them to run 650. I have seen a few folks here say they got 650 at the wall from their meijiue with the inventronics though
Its the same way as a 600/1000w hps actual at the wall power consumption will be a bit more than 600/1000w, cause you have to add in the consumtion of the ballast. Think of it as 600w at the board, and even so many times it will be a slight bit higher as mea well and most manufacturers will over spec their drivers: generally they have 8-10% more output if not dimmed
THank you for the info! So I shouldn't be running them at 100% then?
Didn’t see your earlier post to cite more about this question.I watch and tune my wattage for every cycle depending on how many tables I’m running, how big are the clones/mothers. Size of area it’s covering etc...I’ll assume you have some plants under a 4x4 that could use all 650+ wattage it’s fine. Now if you go over a certain ppfd then your essentially just wasting watts. If you want that hps 1000watt comparable with led then I would just run it max or slightly under if you have big plants
B and H are the same diodes, only if you are sure to get top bin B diodes, and not some of the lower bins. The H diodes don't come in a low of binning as the B versions do, which means that you might get "the same B diodes" which produce less photons compared to their H counterparts. If you are sure that your manufacturer only uses top bin "B" diodes, then yes they are all the same, which is why Steven at HLG would answer that way (HLG only uses top bin diodes).
Good man, thread was not made for keyboard warriors, but for people trying something different and posting their findings and keeping things civil and growing herb off course.