THE backhanded SLAP from clinton to destroy obama!!

Big P

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JESSE JACKSON: Under Obama 'decades of putting Israel's interests first' would end...



looks like clinton has jesse jackson doing his dirty work to sink obama........


THE O JESSE KNOWS

JACKSON ON OBAMA'S AMERICA


Jackson: Expects Obama to stop "putting Israel's interests first" in making Mideast policy.




Last updated: 12:34 pm
October 14, 2008
Posted: 1:35 am
October 14, 2008
EVIAN, FRANCE

PREPARE for a new America: That's the message that the Rev. Jesse Jackson conveyed to participants in the first World Policy Forum, held at this French lakeside resort last week.

He promised "fundamental changes" in US foreign policy - saying America must "heal wounds" it has caused to other nations, revive its alliances and apologize for the "arrogance of the Bush administration."
The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would end.

Jackson believes that, although "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" remain strong, they'll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

"Obama is about change," Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. "And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it."

Jackson warns that he isn't an Obama confidant or adviser, "just a supporter." But he adds that Obama has been "a neighbor or, better still, a member of the family." Jackson's son has been a close friend of Obama for years, and Jackson's daughter went to school with Obama's wife Michelle.
"We helped him start his career," says Jackson. "And then we were always there to help him move ahead. He is the continuation of our struggle for justice not only for the black people but also for all those who have been
wronged."

Will Obama's election close the chapter of black grievances linked to memories of slavery? The reverend takes a deep breath and waits a long time before responding.

"No, that chapter won't be closed," he says. "However, Obama's victory will be a huge step in the direction we have wanted America to take for decades."

Jackson rejects any suggestion that Obama was influenced by Marxist ideas in his youth. "I see no evidence of that," he says. "Obama's thirst for justice and equality is rooted in his black culture."
But is Obama - who's not a descendant of slaves - truly a typical American black?

Jackson emphatically answers yes: "You don't need to be a descendant of slaves to experience the oppression, the suffocating injustice and the ugly racism that exists in our society," he says. "Obama experienced the same environment as all American blacks did. It was nonsense to suggest that he was somehow not black enough to feel the pain."

Is Jackson worried about the "Bradley effect" - that people may be telling pollsters they favor the black candidate, but won't end up voting for him?
"I don't think this is how things will turn out," he says. "We have a collapsing economy and a war that we have lost in Iraq. In Afghanistan, we face a resurgent Taliban. New threats are looming in Pakistan. Our liberties have been trampled under feet . . . Today, most Americans want change, and know that only Barack can deliver what they want. Young Americans are especially determined to make sure that Obama wins."
He sees a broad public loss of confidence in the nation's institutions: "We have lost confidence in our president, our Congress, our banking system, our Wall Street and our legal system to protect our individual freedoms. . . I don't see how we could regain confidence in all those institutions without a radical change of direction."

Jackson declines to be more concrete about possible policy changes. After all, he insists, he isn't part of Obama's policy team. Yet he clearly hopes that his views, reflecting the position of many Democrats, would be reflected in the policies of an Obama administration.
On the economic front, he hopes for "major changes in our trading policy."
"We cannot continue with the open-door policy," he says. "We need to protect our manufacturing industry against unfair competition that destroys American jobs and creates ill-paid jobs abroad."
Would that mean an abrogation of the NAFTA treaty with Canada and Mexico?

Jackson dismisses the question as "premature": "We could do a great deal without such dramatic action."
His most surprising position concerns Iraq. He passionately denounces the toppling of Saddam Hussein as "an illegal and unjust act." But he's now sure that the United States "will have to remain in Iraq for a very long time."

What of Obama's promise to withdraw by 2010? Jackson believes that position will have to evolve, reflecting "realities on the ground."
"We should work with our allies in Iraq to consolidate democratic institutions there," he says. "We must help the people of Iraq decide and shape their future in accordance with their own culture and faith."
On Iran, he strongly supports Obama's idea of opening a direct dialogue with the leadership in Tehran. "We've got to talk to tell them what we want and hear what they want," Jackson says. "Nothing is gained by not talking to others."

Would that mean ignoring the four UN Security Council resolutions that demand an end to Iran's uranium-enrichment program? Jackson says direct talks wouldn't start without preparations.
"Barack wants an aggressive and dynamic diplomacy," he says. "He also wants adequate preparatory work. We must enter the talks after the ground has been prepared," he says.
Jackson is especially critical of President Bush's approach to the Israel-Palestine conflict.

"Bush was so afraid of a snafu and of upsetting Israel that he gave the whole thing a miss," Jackson says. "Barack will change that," because, as long as the Palestinians haven't seen justice, the Middle East will "remain a source of danger to us all."

"Barack is determined to repair our relations with the world of Islam and Muslims," Jackson says. "Thanks to his background and ecumenical approach, he knows how Muslims feel while remaining committed to his own faith."

Amir Taheri's next book, "The Persian Night: Iran Under the Khomeinist Revolution," is due out next month.
 

******

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u can write all that but u still haven't explained ur lying to prove ur point so y should any1 waste their time reading ur bs when u lie
 

ElBarto

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So you've got yesterday's man Jesse Jackson, who last time he was in the news wanted to cut Obama's balls off, quoted (supposedly) by well-known lying neo-con shitbag Amir Taheri.

So how exactly does this reflect on Obama?

Learn more about Amir Taheri

Amir Taheri - SourceWatch
 

******

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So you've got yesterday's man Jesse Jackson, who last time he was in the news wanted to cut Obama's balls off, quoted (supposedly) by well-known lying neo-con shitbag Amir Taheri.

So how exactly does this reflect on Obama?

Learn more about Amir Taheri

Amir Taheri - SourceWatch
jesse and obama was playing o'rielly and his jesse hating fans for a dumb asses
 

Big P

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man you guys are slow i was mearly pointing out that clinton is trying to sink obama's campain by useing jesse jackson in a back handed way. this has clinton written all over it



u guys need to sharpen your pencils a little bit
 

Big P

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u can write all that but u still haven't explained ur lying to prove ur point so y should any1 waste their time reading ur bs when u lie


dude man, i didnt write the above its so obviously an article i just pasted in there:confused:

secondly i have already replied to your stupidity in the very post where you accused me of lieing but obviously you wanna keep pretending that you didnt read it.

ok, cool with me





seriously man how old r u? are you from a country other than USA?
 

******

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dude man, i didnt write the above its so obviously an article i just pasted in there:confused:

secondly i have already replied to your stupidity in the very post where you accused me of lieing but obviously you wanna keep pretending that you didnt read it.

ok, cool with me





seriously man how old r u? are you from a country other than USA?
i read it i didn't buy it , u made this personal 1st son don't cuss me or call names if u don't want to fight , u want to start over cool ,
 

VTXDave

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man you guys are slow i was mearly pointing out that clinton is trying to sink obama's campain by useing jesse jackson in a back handed way. this has clinton written all over it



u guys need to sharpen your pencils a little bit
And if Obama loses, Hillary has another shot in 2012.
 

Big P

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i read it i didn't buy it , u made this personal 1st son don't cuss me or call names if u don't want to fight , u want to start over cool ,

if you cant take it then dont dish it, but as far as us theres no problem, feel free to cuss me out if you think im saying stupid shit, i do the same, at the end of the day we are both here because of the ganja and this is all in fun



so ill pack one in your honor hows that?bongsmilie:leaf:




 

******

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if you cant take it then dont dish it, but as far as us theres no problem, feel free to cuss me out if you think im saying stupid shit, i do the same, at the end of the day we are both here because of the ganja and this is all in fun



so ill pack one in your honor hows that?bongsmilie:leaf:
then i still have a problem u can't throw stones and claim to be the victim and it can be fun but respect is earned and u don't know me , u cussed me and if u don't want to get personal don't do it to me if u want to say i disagree w/ thats stupidest shit i ever heard cool but if 1 were to say fuck u u stupid retard son of a bitch ur sisters a whore then i'll be more than happy to take some 1 to school . i'm not a dem and if u cross policy disagreement w/ insult i can take it but i prefer to dish .
 

tipsgnob

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bill clinton is a democrat and will do what he can to get the democrat elected....jesse jackson is out for jesse jackson and nobody else....
 

Big P

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then i still have a problem u can't throw stones and claim to be the victim and it can be fun but respect is earned and u don't know me , u cussed me and if u don't want to get personal don't do it to me if u want to say i disagree w/ thats stupidest shit i ever heard cool but if 1 were to say fuck u u stupid retard son of a bitch ur sisters a whore then i'll be more than happy to take some 1 to school . i'm not a dem and if u cross policy disagreement w/ insult i can take it but i prefer to dish .


when i said "can i punch your sister then" i was being sarcastic

because you said:

"my next door nieghbor is ill eagle , but who said i get to choose which laws must be followed"


so i said "can i punch your sister then?" since no one said you get to choose which laws must be followed



just responding to the thread and the post


now i guess the assclown part was not nessecary, but it was mainly said in jest plus i was drained at the time from trying to rebuff all the liberal propeganda swirling around this forumbongsmilie


 

Bongulator

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Hillary has stumped more for Obama than any other defeated primary opponent in history.

And if there is some Clinton plan to derail Obama (which there isn't), well, it sure isn't working, because it's looking more like an Obama landslide win with every day that passes. I'll go out on a limb and make a prediction: Obama gets 375 electoral votes, or more. It's going to be a *resounding* defeat for McCain. Early voting is showing a 23% Obama edge, on average. He won't keep that kind of lead, but it's going to be big enough to make the electoral college a complete blowout in Obama's favor.

The funny thing is that people scoffed at Obama and his community organizer experience. But that is what has enabled him to dominate in this election. He took neighborhood-based community organization principles, added a layer onto the top (to maintain some discipline and organizational control), and then ramped it up to cover the nation. People are going to write book after book on this campaign and Obama's campaign organizing. The Republicans are probably trying their best to learn from what he's done, because it is a model for how all campaigns should be run going into the future.
 

Big P

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Hillary has stumped more for Obama than any other defeated primary opponent in history.

And if there is some Clinton plan to derail Obama (which there isn't), well, it sure isn't working, because it's looking more like an Obama landslide win with every day that passes. I'll go out on a limb and make a prediction: Obama gets 375 electoral votes, or more. It's going to be a *resounding* defeat for McCain. Early voting is showing a 23% Obama edge, on average. He won't keep that kind of lead, but it's going to be big enough to make the electoral college a complete blowout in Obama's favor.

The funny thing is that people scoffed at Obama and his community organizer experience. But that is what has enabled him to dominate in this election. He took neighborhood-based community organization principles, added a layer onto the top (to maintain some discipline and organizational control), and then ramped it up to cover the nation. People are going to write book after book on this campaign and Obama's campaign organizing. The Republicans are probably trying their best to learn from what he's done, because it is a model for how all campaigns should be run going into the future.

well we will see how he does come election day and then we can all come back here and say I told you so for whom ever was right

however his ground game is good, but he would have been beatin like a drum if it wasnt for bush fatigue


the fact is the clintons if they had a choice and a magic wand, they would rather see mcain as pres purley so she can run in 4 years against palin becuase mcain may probabliy be getting too old


tips its funny you say she has been stumping for obama but the last time i seen her on tv singin his praises was at the convention

so how do explain that?


and how can explain this?

took clinton until just a few days ago start to rallie for Obama. and the only reason is he is walkin that fine line and doesnt want to piss of his dems

once again tips you are sorely mistaken:bigjoint:

Bill Clinton holds first rally for Obama but doubts persist about commitment october 1st



Bill Clinton will today officially set aside wounded feelings that arose from the Democrats' long and bitter primary contest as he heads out to Florida to hold his first rally for Barack Obama.

It comes more than a month after Clinton's emotional endorsement speech at the Democrats' convention and amid new speculation about whether he really wants Obama to win the White House.

Clinton's potential to inflict damage on Obama's prospects was underlined again yesterday when John McCain released a new television ad using a clip of the former president to attack the Democrats.
Clinton's two appearances in the politically volatile Orlando and Fort Pierce areas mark his first in the general election season. He is being deployed to get more people to register to vote before the deadline in Florida and other states on Monday.

Clinton is also expected to campaign in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada and Ohio to encourage people to take part in early voting. Voters in Ohio yesterday began casting absentee ballots following a court ruling that allows residents to register and vote on the same day for the first six days of early voting.

Hillary Clinton has addressed a number of rallies for Obama, and has tried to organise supporters of her campaign into a pro-Obama network. But for all the public protestations of support, her husband has failed to repeat the wholehearted support expressed in his convention speech.

At the Clinton global initiative last week, the former president upset some Democrats by saying he personally liked McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin, while adopting a much more impersonal tone when mentioning Obama. He did not even address Obama by name.

Clinton dug himself in even deeper in an interview with NBC at the weekend. When pressed as to whether he liked or admired Obama, he said he hardly knew him until they had lunch on September 11.
"Look, I had my first conversation with him in my entire life in Harlem," said Clinton. "I had talked to him but always in passing ... Hillary is the one who told me to go help him. She said, 'This guy's got real skills. He's got almost unlimited potential.' And so I did."

The unpredictability of Bill Clinton in part informed Al Gore's decision not to use him extensively in the 2000 campaign.
The lack of discipline rebounded on Clinton yesterday when the McCain campaign used his words in a new campaign ad blaming Obama and the Democrats in general for the credit crisis.






and here is the video, now guys who do you believe me or tips?:bigjoint:




http://mediamatters.org/items/200809290015
 

tipsgnob

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Big P

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Clinton stumps for Obama in Roanoke [SIZE=-1]Virginia Tech Collegiate Times Online Edition[/SIZE]

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Hillary Clinton in Ohio for Obama on Friday
Hillary Clinton rallies crowd at Philly suburb [SIZE=-1]Allentown Morning Call[/SIZE]
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like i said they are walking a fine line, trying to trick you into thinking that ofcoarse they would never wish for the democrat to lose, but behind closed doors they are trying to derail him to lose the election so she can have another shot at the presidency in 4 years.


niether you nor I know what thier true intentions are. lets let the readers decide for themselves what they think

ill stick to my hunches
 

******

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when i said "can i punch your sister then" i was being sarcastic

because you said:

"my next door nieghbor is ill eagle , but who said i get to choose which laws must be followed"


so i said "can i punch your sister then?" since no one said you get to choose which laws must be followed



just responding to the thread and the post


now i guess the assclown part was not nessecary, but it was mainly said in jest plus i was drained at the time from trying to rebuff all the liberal propeganda swirling around this forumbongsmilie
if u punch my sis i would mame ur face for life , my point is if u disrespect me i don't cry to the popo , now u have to go back before that if u feel u must explain , i don't need an explination or apolligy just start over now quote me and say " now" if u've had enough nothing more
 

Big P

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if u punch my sis i would mame ur face for life , my point is if u disrespect me i don't cry to the popo , now u have to go back before that if u feel u must explain , i don't need an explination or apolligy just start over now quote me and say " now" if u've had enough nothing more

if you wanna be like that fine with me, I was trying to be nice to you but forget it,

i actually havnt had enough of it at all if thats what you think, lets keep it going soldier

what you wanna battle about, you get to pick, let me know and we can start this all over again.


now u say if i punched your sister you wouldnt call the popo but still the fact remains, that your statment:

"but who said i get to choose which laws must be followed"


is a stupid thing to say, cuz regardless of a non police retaliation still would leave your sis with a black eye

therefore to answer you question:

"who said i get to choose which laws must be followed"

the answer is your sis says so, cuz what if she got hit in the face :bigjoint:
 
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