Testing InnoLed's 120w horticultural led fixture= Let there be warm white/ high cri light!:)

natro.hydro said:

First to sub!
Lets see what ya can do with her.

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Thanks.............I'll try my best as usual.............have no idea what to expect

Greengenes707 said:

Look at you go. Bringing something new to the table. Rock on man. Subbed for sure

They are out of my home town.

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Yes somethiing different than the "usual suspects" my friend................If you live close, can you ask them what ma their driving the leds at?????lol

Chronikool said:

I will get to those linkz shortly...but yes it does look yummy....

magnesium deficiency incoming? No epsom saltz? Not vegan enough for you?

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No epsom salts...........bad for the beni bacs...............will see what happens

Chronikool said:

Wow...120w replacing 400w sodium system....big claims....

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VERY big claims.........I will NOT hit around 300 grams dry like with my hps days in my current setup. Especially running 12/12 from seed, don't want trees and wanna cull the males fast...

stardustsailor said:

I'm a perverted 'techphill'

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I mean..What can be horniest than that ?

Shit !
That's the real stuff!

Show 'em,baby ...
Show'em what you can do ...

Yes ....''

Yes...(Positive Orgasm )


No...
No...
(Negative one ...)

My God !
My God
Jesus,holy,Christ !
(Religious one )

Inoo
Inno...
( Χύνω <=translate ...)

(The true ,only one ...
The Inno one ...)

PSU,Now you 're definitely gonna become a true believer !

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Didn't know your really felt this way about all warm white!!ha, anyways your the one that originally found the company.............If you love it so much I can send it to you tomorrow

hyroot said:

what was that other pic you showed before? looks different than this light..

good luck. those strains sound good.


don't let sds over to your spot. he might get to excited and let out some love juice all over your grow.. lol

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Same light just showed it at a different angle/lights off............The breeder seems to have a fair priced product, the outcome should be good with this cross IMO.

stardustsailor said:

PSu ....
Forget what you know about the rest of the leds ...
'Treat' it as a ...HPS ...
Meaning ...
-Expect streching during veg and first weeks of flowering ...
-Need Nitrates to store .When plants will eventually be in reproductive stage for good and most
of vegetative abilities are' gone '(slowed down rate on new nodes ),expect a sudden 'boom' in flowering..
(like on hps ....Forget the almost 'steady pace ' of rest ...
Plants will need some stored N ,then ...
-You know (way better than me probably) the rest ....
Just some 'heads-up'..

Thank you ...
Peace ,brother ...

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Thanks for the info SDS..........I'm expecting stretching under this spectra, will train and rotate pots to help. Funny thing is when I take pics in the room with it on the camera's auto detection adjusts to "sunlight" mode immediately. It is way brighter in person than the pics suggest due to the compensation ..

angel dustbin said:

Hi, apologies if my question is well off subject but i need an experienced growers advice regarding this... http://www.satisled.com/30w-high-power-led-pink-12001500lm_p957.html

i notice dealextreme sells a similar 30W PINK LED product but with much lower lumens.. http://www.dx.com/p/jrled-30w-800lm-1-led-pink-light-plant-lamp-module-silver-32-36v-279432#.U2rB0PldUsJ

if i remember right it is just a thick phosphor layer over blue chips, but they are vague as fuck, they show no datasheet or spectral distribution chart on any site!, and neither any info as to whether it produces healthy amounts of red or wavelengths in between, vague as fuck..,.. sometimes on different sites "PINK" is rated as 1500k-1700k, and then other sellers say 2200k-2300k, and finally is it worth trying?, and why is the lumen output different from dealextreme to satisLED???. ANY HELP GREATLY APPRECIATED... A..

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Skip it and buy bridgelux vero/ cree cxa cobs instead for a little more money...........many great diy tutorials/grows going on in here atm.

puffenuff said:

Oh hell yeah. Glad you are testing this one out. I was super close to dropping the big bucks on one of these when we first saw them. Best of luck bro.

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thank you brother puff.............I will try to get something worthwhile off this run, will see how it performs.

GroErr said:

Looks like it's built like a brick shit house as they say up here, let's see some LED bud

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yeah it's built tough.......I suggest keeping the lens ON in greenhouse/damp conditions though

spazatak said:

They are some bold claims that they make....I hope it lives up to expectations

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yes bold and don't expect any records being broken in a this crowded 2 gallon/no veg time grow.............

hyroot said:

i meant sds. and no I said shes too old for me. she has kids too lol

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starting to get creepy now with your sis issues

[QUOTEVERY big claims.........I will NOT hit around 300 grams dry like with my hps days in my current setup. Especially running 12/12 from seed, don't want trees and wanna cull the males fast...][/QUOTE]
That would be bonkers if you pulled close to 2 g/w, lets do it!
I kinda like 12/12 fs, gives you a good idea of what a strain is worth and how much variation you can expect since you can run a higher plant count. Idk if you will manage to sqeeze em in there if you end up with a good f/m ratio....
EDIT: have not figured out quoting with the new format, should just stick to quoting with my phone....

natro.hydro said:

[QUOTEVERY big claims.........I will NOT hit around 300 grams dry like with my hps days in my current setup. Especially running 12/12 from seed, don't want trees and wanna cull the males fast...]

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That would be bonkers if you pulled close to 2 g/w, lets do it!
I kinda like 12/12 fs, gives you a good idea of what a strain is worth and how much variation you can expect since you can run a higher plant count. Idk if you will manage to sqeeze em in there if you end up with a good f/m ratio....
EDIT: have not figured out quoting with the new format, should just stick to quoting with my phone....[/QUOTE]

Dunno that really ...
I've seen other stuff with kinda ..plenty (not that much though .. 30 ,maybe ?Maybe less ) of those actually :
http://innoledinc.com/product/320wattledgrowlight/
I don't know really for 2 gpw ,regarding mj buds ..
I've seen ....PLENTY...of kilos of( several different kinds )of fruit ,though ..
In a really inno-vative greenhouse ..
Following the 'school' of a Japanase botanologist something like that ...
That lets different plants 'aid' each other ...
I can't remember his name Fousi.something
Fousiyama ..
Shit ...
(Many joints today )
Fourikamo ?
Fourioki ..

Anyway ....
Great shit !

And those lights ?

PSu ,can you imagine getting ~300grms from 120 Watt ? (actual plug draw that is ,really ? )
Shit ..
That would be a real breakthrough ....
..
Sometimes you just want time to go Fast Forward ...
I know ,I do ,in this case ...

PSu,If you feel(and find the time ) like it describe a bit the fixture ...
-Does it get hot ?
(it is passive ,ain't that so ? )

-What the light shade looks like ?
How the cob looks like ?
Anything special ?
A detail that you liked or no ?

Oh com 'on bro ...
Do I really have to 'fish 'em out ' from ya ?

Why you're being such a ..sadist ?

stardustsailor said:

LOL ! Soon to find out ....
Trust me ...
I 've seen them ,in a 'demo' greenhouse ,close enough around here !
Not with mj ,though ...
But with some really 'needy' tropical and semi-tropical region , plants ...
Way 'needy' guys ....
In light terms ...
Fruit producing ...


Ha-ha-ha-ha....
LPS ?


LOL!
Ok ....

(Ohhh ..Yah ..Sound impossible ...No ..Just Greek-American guy...
Came from somewhere near ,where the company is based ,I think ...
Great guy...(As far as I know,at least ....)
Back to home-land ...
(Weird....)
.....
For sure ....
Pretty...
Inno..vative one !

Edit:
(Hmmm..Maybe I'll ask him to take some pics of the plants and fruits ...
But then.....
No.

I can do that (i think ...)
But it will be a real 'spoiler' to PSUAGRO 's thread.
( ......Boooo! )
Really,I mean it .. .
So ..
Let us enjoy the show ...

And see if I'm 'overeacting ...."

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SPOIL away friend.....................I'm just doing this for my own curiosity about all WW grow with no added 660nm monochromatic leds......which I still think would do better

FranJan said:

Quantum dot huh,how cool is that ? I thought that tech was never coming to grow lights, at least for a long while. Very cool P. Has anyone done a High vs. Low LED CRI grow btw? Would really love to see some COBler do that sometime.

And I swear you Veganics are sometimes as bad as those LED growing fuckheads . Go buy a bag of Azos already. And give me back my MOMMA!!! LOL

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here you go fran a close up of the dots/chips.... .......supposedly @ 98 cri / 3200k

secondary lens on
.......yikes at the gap/ light leak!, says it will be fixed shortly

lens off
.......better IMO, just got to drop it onto the girl's chin now

AND NO you can't have your mama back!!! ................try 100% plant/rock based nutrients and get back to me froggy

natro.hydro said:

[QUOTEVERY big claims.........I will NOT hit around 300 grams dry like with my hps days in my current setup. Especially running 12/12 from seed, don't want trees and wanna cull the males fast...]

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That would be bonkers if you pulled close to 2 g/w, lets do it!
I kinda like 12/12 fs, gives you a good idea of what a strain is worth and how much variation you can expect since you can run a higher plant count. Idk if you will manage to sqeeze em in there if you end up with a good f/m ratio....
EDIT: have not figured out quoting with the new format, should just stick to quoting with my phone....[/QUOTE]

LOL, i still can't figure out this new site either.............2gpw was done by a handful of growers without a light mover, I'm terrible indoors..........but thanks for the positive vibes, just hope they make it till the end

stardustsailor said:

PSu,If you feel(and find the time ) like it describe a bit the fixture ...
-Does it get hot ?
(it is passive ,ain't that so ? )

-What the light shade looks like ?
How the cob looks like ?
Anything special ?
A detail that you liked or no ?

Oh com 'on bro ...
Do I really have to 'fish 'em out ' from ya ?

Why you're being such a ..sadist ?

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Sadist??........what fucking time is it in greece right now?? lol, your an insomniac for real..........

Hot............no..........warm yes at the bottom of the heatsink, nothing from the driver box; surprising.......pointing the 12 inch fan directly at it though.

leds^^^^ pictured above

Nothing "special" because I've grown nada with the fixture so far

light shade??...........spectra reminds me of late afternoon sun

Don't like the secondary optics as stated above^^^

Anything else?????

Insomniac?
No..
I'm in terrible pain actually and I can't sleep ...
My stomach is ...
Just leave it ..
Thanx bro ....
That would do for now...

No ..I'm ain't spoiling it ,noway ...
Have patience ...
(The ' faith ' is coming towards you ....Soon ...)
And prepare yourself ...

You're gonna 'change' ,my brother ....

Whoo..
That's the weirdest , cob ever..


And I like it ( also) without the lens ...
Better suited to small ,growth spaces ..

Let there be light ,then ...
And ....
I'll try to go to sleep ...

Thumbs up ,bro ...

Take care ...

stardustsailor said:

Whoo..
That's the weirdest , cob ever..
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And I like also without the lense ...
Better suited to small ,growth spaces ..

Let there be light ,then ...
And ....
I'll try to go to sleep ...

Thumbs up ,bro ...

Take care ...

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You too SDS.................try to get some sleep friend!!...............I'll see you in the morning , east coast time

(...) " yikes at the gap/ light leak!, says it will be fixed shortly" (...)

You perfectionist-freak !

It might be the raw light power ..Difficult to put on a leash ...
Have you thought that 'option' ?
You Smartass!
Fix what ?
Nothing's broken !
You've plenty of light going the direction you want / is supposed to ...
And you worry about couple of rebels of photons ?

LOL! Goodnight !

This looks way cool. Subbed.

PSUAGRO. said:

.......supposedly @ 98 cri / 3200K

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So we really should get some awesome photos later on under that 98 CRI . Now I remember this company. Guess it's put up or shut up time for them eh folks? Take care of you eyes P and no Photoshopping, OK ? LOL No really take care of the eyes and be safe P.

98 cri holy shnikes's. thats going to kick ass... I'm a firm believer that a more even spectral distribution is more important than high µmole/s.

PSU ,I hope you're awake and growing ,bro....


Goodmorning !

P.S.:

" If you love it so much I can send it to you tomorrow " ...

Yes ,please do that !

psuagro... great thread.. see you in action with cob...I wish you the best

...but...

...the price seems to me too high for 120w ......

sell them separate parts? ...for example the cob led or the heatsink... something is not right to my pov...
...looking at things...on the heatsink way... im search in that way.. i see...

...yeah i know its only similar but... ...the price diferences... wow.. maybe my maths its wrong or bad...

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/German-manufacturing-process-150w-led-high-bay-light-led-high-bay-light-150w-150w-high-bay/537069035.html

led cob price + heatsink price + driver price....something is not right in prices to my pov...

..would be nice to know the price of your cob led only... ...example...for replace if melt one... ...or buy several for mounting on other coolers or heat sinks...

saludos

The more I think about this light, if this light is for real, this is a complete and total game changer. This could totally eat plasma's lunch before plasma even has a shot. The control of spectra manufacturer's will have will be nothing short of amazing.Who's die are they using to stimulate the dots? And finding out the mA would be interesting, especially since it's max is 18 Amps!
Anyone want to buy some lightly used Hans 80s?
http://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=121

And COB Nazi says it's not a COB. Probably. Maybe. Who knows? LOL

FranJan said:

The more I think about this light, if this light is for real, this is a complete and total game changer. This could totally eat plasma's lunch before plasma even has a shot. The control of spectra manufacturer's will have will be nothing short of amazing.Who's die are they using to stimulate the dots? And finding out the mA would be interesting, especially since it's max is 18 Amps!
Anyone want to buy some lightly used Hans 80s?
http://www.azonano.com/article.aspx?ArticleID=121

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Shit,Fran...
You're slowly turning my ship to Lumileds,you pirate ....

While the researchers investigate the use of quantum dots as phosphors as part of an internally funded research project, they also have a grant from the DOE Office of Building Technologies for a collaborative project with Lumileds Lighting, a joint venture between Agilent Technologies and Philips Lighting. In this project they are helping Lumileds measure quantum efficiency of light emission from various types of dots.

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Amazing info...
That would be a game changer ...Generally ...

I was heading to Cree (C)- X- (A) -otic Islands ...

This voyage never ends ...

18A ?

Which would be the next destination ?

Cree ? Lumileds ? Agilent ? or Phillips ?

Oh....
......

salmone said:

psuagro... great thread.. see you in action with cob...I wish you the best

...but...

...the price seems to me too high for 120w ......

sell them separate parts? ...for example the cob led or the heatsink... something is not right to my pov...
...looking at things...on the heatsink way... im search in that way.. i see...

...yeah i know its only similar but... ...the price diferences... wow.. maybe my maths its wrong or bad...

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/German-manufacturing-process-150w-led-high-bay-light-led-high-bay-light-150w-150w-high-bay/537069035.html

led cob price + heatsink price + driver price....something is not right in prices to my pov...

..would be nice to know the price of your cob led only... ...example...for replace if melt one... ...or buy several for mounting on other coolers or heat sinks...

saludos

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I can see casing resembling each other ...
Probably same " German Man .process " ....
Same factory ?
Same standards ?
Maybe ?

Case indeed at both cases ,is having both same looks...Like a Panzer tank ...
And they both do like ,as they are being made under German manufacturing standards/process ...

There I think stops any 'resemblance', what so ever ...
Cobs used on Inno are way exotic ...(Or if they are not exactly COBS ..Whatever they are ,anyway ...)
Drivers also probably ....
(I'm fortelling an ...inno¢ent .... 'surgery ' operation ,there PSU ? )


PSUAGRO!!! ...
Now you know ,that probably you can attach a hood/ wide angle reflector (with otions of 80°-90°-110° maybe ....),also ...

It just gets better and better ....

PSUAGRO. said:

first thing I did was to remove the secondary glass optics

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Ah excellent!

As for the light engine, its spectrum is identical to the Mole-Richardson studio lights.

Yes.It is the exact spectrum used ...

Who makes those chips,really ?


versus cxa ( with lots of salt grains,guys ....as both are RADIOMETRIC graphs
and not rel .power to be normalised to 100% ...
So ,at 'y ' axis things have to be calculated to match ( uW/cm^2 vs umol/sec )...
And I'm not in the mood ,right now
Just for x axis peak-valleys comparison ....
(Thanx to Mr flux for both the graphs ...)




From my humble experience ...
It has plenty of 'bumps' ....
In case of quantum-tech ...I do not know ...
If it was made with normal phosphor tech ,that would ;'ve meant the presence of more than
two different phosphors ...
For sure the spectra is way 'exotic '...
'Rich" ,compact ..Compressed /targeted ...(> 425 nm up to ~800 nm (!) ? )
And not Much power lost over the 700 nm !!!!!!
Pretty steep drop!

Now ...
That's weird !!!!!!



peak comparison with CXA 3000K 93 CRI ...


Somewhat more blue( but narrow )& cyan ,less green &FR ,Same red peak ...
( Take a spade full of salt ,along ...)