doublejj
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new, light weight batteries are in the pipeline & will drive cost down and extend range.....
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hanimmal
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I think it might be more about how maybe we don't need to have the ability to travel hundreds of miles everyday to survive being what is most needed.
One more reason I think Dejoy is doing some really evil shit taking away the one entity that is designed to be able to stop at every home in America everyday. I think EV is great for the USPS, and more thought to how wasteful we are with human beings time.
One more reason I think Dejoy is doing some really evil shit taking away the one entity that is designed to be able to stop at every home in America everyday. I think EV is great for the USPS, and more thought to how wasteful we are with human beings time.
DIY-HP-LED
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There has been a lot of investment in materials, electrochemistry and solid state lithium batteries that will greatly extend capacity and recharge cycles. Other technologies that use aluminum or sodium are being vigorously perused and research breakthroughs are happening daily. These companies aren't wasting money and many problems are at the engineering stage of development and production. The next decade will see major advances in battery technology and the green grid to power with standardized charging points for EVs. Charging rates, costs and range are the two biggest issues in competing with ICE vehicles, particularly in North America and particularly the suburban and rural markets where range is important. Charging such high capacity batteries from home would be an issue though, since they would store large amounts of amp hours for say 600 or 1000 mile range.
EVs are coming, count on it, every car company on the planet is and the research and development is happening at a feverish pace and investment dollars are flowing. A new green and hardened, secure grid will have to be built on the bones of the old one to accommodate the growing energy needs of EVs, wind, solar, tidal, geothermal and natural gas turbines for peak demands (initially). In 20 years an ICE powered private vehicle might be a thing of the past and so will many auto mechanics, some EV designs have the electric motors integrated into the wheel hubs and the wheels are the only moving parts!
EVs are coming, count on it, every car company on the planet is and the research and development is happening at a feverish pace and investment dollars are flowing. A new green and hardened, secure grid will have to be built on the bones of the old one to accommodate the growing energy needs of EVs, wind, solar, tidal, geothermal and natural gas turbines for peak demands (initially). In 20 years an ICE powered private vehicle might be a thing of the past and so will many auto mechanics, some EV designs have the electric motors integrated into the wheel hubs and the wheels are the only moving parts!
doublejj
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in California we passed a law to make every new home an EV charging station. Full tank every morning. Wake& Bake, nothing better than that...
doublejj
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Like I've also said a bunch, the best thing you do when you buy a tesluh, environmentally speaking, is contribute to furthering the technology. These private businesses drive the tech and they don't exist without people buying their products.
Again, my only objection here is to the extreme hyperbole that they're saving the planet, or are actually good for the planet. Reality is that they're shitty, just a little less shitty.
And you scoffing at the Aptera is the same as scoffing at a Civic when you're driving a Crown Vic.
DIY-HP-LED
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A high capacity say 200 amp entrance would be required for serious charging of a future 1000 mile range EV, no matter what battery tech was used. A future ford 1/2 ton going a 1000 miles would suck a horrific amount of amp hours, more if yer towing a fucking boat! It would be useful for topping up at night at say 100 amps x 240 volts for say 12 hours @90% efficiency for the power supply. No 15 minute charges though!
DIY-HP-LED
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I use Li po's and Li on batteries in RC planes and quads, got a charger and a metal box full of them. I'm thinking about an electric bike though, I think it might be useful for puttering around town and getting cardio exercise too.
doublejj
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fringe vehicles like the Aptera will have it's place, I hesitate to call it a car, it's more like a 3wheel electric motorcycle with a faring. But it's not gonna take the family on a weekend ski trip to the mountains or camping trip. there will always be a place for those type of vehicles....please where a helmet
doublejj: I embrace the energy efficiency of tesluh EV!
mooray: What about a car that uses 3000lbs less toxic material and charges itself 40 miles per day without plugging into a fossil fuel power grid?
doublejj: No that's too efficient. Anything less than 5000lbs is the same as roller skates to me. I don't like it anymore.
mooray: What about a car that uses 3000lbs less toxic material and charges itself 40 miles per day without plugging into a fossil fuel power grid?
doublejj: No that's too efficient. Anything less than 5000lbs is the same as roller skates to me. I don't like it anymore.
doublejj
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That's assuming you are 100% discharged. Your not likely to drive 1000 miles a day every day. Tesla's driver data shows 200 mile range is more than 99% use daily. You are not likely to need 1000 mile charge often if you plug in nightly...
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Grandpapy
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A lot less shitty, this pandemic has been good for the environment in more ways then one.
One would scoff if you have to fit 5 kids in it.
doublejj
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Don't blame me, there are millions of people that don't like that aptira vehicle, I'm not alone......Tesla on the other hand has millions of pre-paid reservations.
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We already know that people make poor decisions. That's the reason why the environment is as bad as it is already.Don't blame me, there are millions of people that don't like that aptira vehicle, I'm not alone......Tesla's on the other hand has millions of pre-paid reservations.
Budley Doright
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Part of the problem as well. Tell an American not to have so many kids and they'll have five just to spite you.A lot less shitty, this pandemic has been good for the environment in more ways then one.
One would scoff if you have to fit 5 kids in it.
DIY-HP-LED
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I found this, for people to get an idea of the electrical demands and limitations of charging at home, great to top up for the 20 minute or half hour commute most people make to work and back. However future battery tech might make, say 1000 mile range and fast charging a thing, that's a lot of amp hours any way ya look at it, especially for an SUV or a 1/2 ton.
How Long Does It Take to Charge an Electric Car? | Shopping Guides | J.D. Power (jdpower.com)
How Long Does It Take to Charge an Electric Car?
Rebecca Lindland | Mar 26, 2020
Electric vehicles (EV) are gaining in popularity. More EVs offer hundreds of miles of driving range at lower prices than ever before. They are considered to be among the most reliable cars because they have fewer moving parts than a traditional internal combustion engine vehicle. Consumers also better understand the environmental benefits of driving an EV.
What determines how long it takes to charge an electric car?
EVs come in different shapes and sizes with types of charging systems based on charging power measured in kilowatts (kW). AC charging at 120V (Level 1) or 240V (Level 2) ranges from 1.8 to 10 kW. DC fast charging (Level 3) ranges from 50 to 350kW.
How Long Does It Take to Charge an Electric Car? | Shopping Guides | J.D. Power (jdpower.com)
How Long Does It Take to Charge an Electric Car?
Rebecca Lindland | Mar 26, 2020
Electric vehicles (EV) are gaining in popularity. More EVs offer hundreds of miles of driving range at lower prices than ever before. They are considered to be among the most reliable cars because they have fewer moving parts than a traditional internal combustion engine vehicle. Consumers also better understand the environmental benefits of driving an EV.
What determines how long it takes to charge an electric car?
EVs come in different shapes and sizes with types of charging systems based on charging power measured in kilowatts (kW). AC charging at 120V (Level 1) or 240V (Level 2) ranges from 1.8 to 10 kW. DC fast charging (Level 3) ranges from 50 to 350kW.
Apologies. Teslas are the same as a rolling garden of eden. Happy?
