dukeanthony
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White Supremacists and Anti-Semites Plan to Recruit at July 4 Tea Parties
Posted: May 18, 2009
....http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White_Supremacists_July_4_Tea_Parties.htm
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White Supremacists and Anti-Semites Plan to Recruit at July 4 Tea Parties
Posted: May 18, 2009
....http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White_Supremacists_July_4_Tea_Parties.htm
Prefontaine
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And exactly which media reports are unbiased? CNN nope, NBC nope, fox hell no, how about ALJAZEER? well nope but if you ever watch it you'll see that entire muslim world is laughing at American politics.Your evidence sir comes from bias media reports
Hence
Yup. the economy must be racist because its not doing what obama wants it to do. Wall street must be racist, because every time obama gives a speach about recovery, all the stocks tank, And buisness must be racist because they are not hiring. And be rest assured no matter what happens, Obama will never take the blame for anything, it will always be somebody elses fault, and thats why nothing will get fixed.... until 2012. Even if republicans don't take the white house in 2012, I think they will gain control of the senate. Hopefully we can get some tea party people in there
Prefontaine
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So if a NAZI marches on your block that makes you a NAZI? sorry but just because people try to take advantage of a political movement doesnt define that movement, must I point out again that many of the "Tea Party" representatives are minorities............
RyanTheRhino
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That was actually at the guy who posted his support as cnn
Prefontaine
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you see when you have activists show up to support a cause, like for instance WTO riots in seattle, there where anarchists, PETA people all kinds of smaller groups showing up to show support for a cause,
There is no evidence that the Tea party movement dresses in sheets and hangs blacks, the leader of the tea party is not reffered to as a grand wizard, and the majority of tea partiers are middle class people, not welfair hillbillys, not rich business owners, not anti semites, or any other label you place on people to discredit there points,
There is no evidence that the Tea party movement dresses in sheets and hangs blacks, the leader of the tea party is not reffered to as a grand wizard, and the majority of tea partiers are middle class people, not welfair hillbillys, not rich business owners, not anti semites, or any other label you place on people to discredit there points,
Prefontaine
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my response was more aimed at discrediting any media organization than defending myself, but yeah
RyanTheRhino
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lol thats what i was trying to do
Prefontaine
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"white supremacists and anti-Semites are planning to exploit Tea Parties to disseminate their hateful views and recruit a larger following."
You just posted "evidence" that clearly differentiates between the Tea Party which is being "exploited" as an opportunity to recruit for their own group.
that means that because the glorious leader of north korea believes in public healthcare and so do you that makes you North Korean,
or more specifically, if you start a bake sale and some really fat people show up, that makes you fat too.
cause that is what you are saying. that because this otehr group supports what you are doing that makes you one of them.
You just posted "evidence" that clearly differentiates between the Tea Party which is being "exploited" as an opportunity to recruit for their own group.
that means that because the glorious leader of north korea believes in public healthcare and so do you that makes you North Korean,
or more specifically, if you start a bake sale and some really fat people show up, that makes you fat too.
cause that is what you are saying. that because this otehr group supports what you are doing that makes you one of them.
Prefontaine
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Well I think we ran those CIA agents off this forum, Fing undercover propaghandists being paid with my tax money to spread fear mongering and misinformation within my community
Johnnyorganic
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That is not evidence of anything beyond the fact that those groups are opportunistic; and the fact that the ADL is absolutely desperate to discredit the Teabaggers.
Fred Phelps is a Democrat. Does the Democratic Party support the lunacy of Westboro Baptist Church?
Lyndon LaRouche is a Democrat. Does the Democratic Party endorse his bat-shit crazy activities?
NAMBLA supports Democratic candidates consistently. Does this reflect on the party whatsoever? Do Democrats want to "love" boys?
The Teabaggers cannot control who shows up to any of their rallies any more than the Democrats can control who supports the Democratic Party.
The Messiah promised to fundamentally change the U.S. The Teabaggers emerged because some people objected to that change.
Ever since, butt-hurt Messiah-sycophants have been trying to marginalize the Teabaggers using anything in their toolbox. The race card is merely one of those tools.
Johnnyorganic
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How does any of that associate the Teabaggers with the KKK except in your mind?
But I was awake when New Black Panthers armed with nightsticks stood outside a polling place on election day. And I was awake when Eric Holder declined to prosecute an open and shut case.
The Teabaggers did not even exist in 2008. The town hall meetings occurred in 2009 during the debate over health care.
"All white and all racists," huh?
Does that include the Union goons who showed up and introduced the ACTUAL violence and racially-charged rhetoric?
http://www.atr.org/union-violence-town-hall-meetings-condemned-a3688
http://www.narbosa.com/2009/08/seiu-union-thugs-cause-violence-at.html
THAT'S what I was talking about when I mentioned evidence.
Unless you can prove ALL of the participants at ALL Town Hall meetings in 2009 were "all white and all racists."
You made a specious claim linking the Teabaggers to the Klan. I asked for any evidence in support of your claim.
I am still waiting by the way.
That's good advice. Perhaps you should heed it yourself.
dukeanthony
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Are Tea Partiers Racist?
A new study shows that the movement's supporters are more likely to be racially resentful
....http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/25/are-tea-partiers-racist.html
Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 17:19 ET
Tea Party leader expels racist Tea Party Leader Mark Williams
....http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/07/18/tea_party_leader_denounces_mark_williams
White Supremacists and Anti-Semites Plan to Recruit at July 4 Tea Parties
Posted: May 18, 2009
....http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White_Supremacists_July_4_Tea_Parties.htm
CNN) -- A California Republican official has apologized for sending an e-mail that depicts President Barack Obama as a young chimpanzee.
Why do 60 million Americans say Obama is a “Muslim?” – Because they can’t call him “Ni**er”
by Holte Ender on Sep 8, 2010
....http://madmikesamerica.com/2010/09/why-do-60-million-americans-say-obama-is-a-muslim-because-they-cant-call-him-nigger/
Youtube tea party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y
A new study shows that the movement's supporters are more likely to be racially resentful
....http://www.newsweek.com/2010/04/25/are-tea-partiers-racist.html
Sunday, Jul 18, 2010 17:19 ET
Tea Party leader expels racist Tea Party Leader Mark Williams
....http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/07/18/tea_party_leader_denounces_mark_williams
White Supremacists and Anti-Semites Plan to Recruit at July 4 Tea Parties
Posted: May 18, 2009
....http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White_Supremacists_July_4_Tea_Parties.htm
CNN) -- A California Republican official has apologized for sending an e-mail that depicts President Barack Obama as a young chimpanzee.
Why do 60 million Americans say Obama is a “Muslim?” – Because they can’t call him “Ni**er”
by Holte Ender on Sep 8, 2010
....http://madmikesamerica.com/2010/09/why-do-60-million-americans-say-obama-is-a-muslim-because-they-cant-call-him-nigger/
Youtube tea party
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y
Johnnyorganic
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As you are apparently planning to repeat the same tired links until every single one is answered; I will do so now.
A few opinion polls and opinions from a few individuals. That's it.
No links to any hate group, just opinion.
He made some ill-advised comments. The one (of many) groups calling themselves Tea Party that he led cut him loose.
They let him go after after making stupid comments. How does that reflect on the Tea Party?
Oh yeah, it doesn't.
As you could not be bothered to bring anything fresh to the table, I will post my ORIGINAL response:
You must not remember the comparisons of Dubya to a chimp.
Just Google Bush chimp and select IMAGES.
How long must Dubya wait for an apology?
FYI, Obama was born a Muslim.
His pappy was a Muslim. Islam is patrilineal.
As a result all of Barack, Sr.'s children were born Muslim.
Maybe Americans were confused when Obama spoke of his Muslim faith before being quickly corrected by George Stephanopolis in an interview.
Maybe Americans are confused by the way he fawns and gushes over Ramadan.
Personally, I don't think he is a Muslim. He say's he became a Christian, I believe him.
But it is all irrelevant.
Islam is a religion, not a race. One of the largest religions on the world.
As such people of ALL RACES are Muslim.
I can see how people chanting "FREEDOM" might intimidate you.
A Newsweek article which asks a provocative question in the title, but never gets around to actually answering the question in the body of the story. The title is just there for shock value and red meat to Newsweek's Liberal, and dwindling readership.
A few opinion polls and opinions from a few individuals. That's it.
No links to any hate group, just opinion.
That link could not be reached because it redirects to some advertisement, so I Googled "Tea Party Leader Mark William."
He made some ill-advised comments. The one (of many) groups calling themselves Tea Party that he led cut him loose.
They let him go after after making stupid comments. How does that reflect on the Tea Party?
Oh yeah, it doesn't.
I have already addressed this one, yet here it is again!
As you could not be bothered to bring anything fresh to the table, I will post my ORIGINAL response:
That is not evidence of anything beyond the fact that those groups are opportunistic; and the fact that the ADL is absolutely desperate to discredit the Teabaggers.
Fred Phelps is a Democrat. Does the Democratic Party support the lunacy of Westboro Baptist Church?
Lyndon LaRouche is a Democrat. Does the Democratic Party endorse his bat-shit crazy activities?
NAMBLA supports Democratic candidates consistently. Does this reflect on the party whatsoever? Do Democrats want to "love" boys?
The Teabaggers cannot control who shows up to any of their rallies any more than the Democrats can control who supports the Democratic Party.
The Messiah promised to fundamentally change the U.S. The Teabaggers emerged because some people objected to that change.
Ever since, butt-hurt Messiah-sycophants have been trying to marginalize the Teabaggers using anything in their toolbox. The race card is merely one of those tools.
No link to this one, but I don't see any reference to the official being a Teabagger, or a Klansman for that matter.
You must not remember the comparisons of Dubya to a chimp.
Just Google Bush chimp and select IMAGES.
How long must Dubya wait for an apology?
They could call him that ugly word if they chose, but they don't. Nothing is stopping them. Yet they don't use it. Could it be that the word is repugnant to them?
FYI, Obama was born a Muslim.
His pappy was a Muslim. Islam is patrilineal.
As a result all of Barack, Sr.'s children were born Muslim.
Maybe Americans were confused when Obama spoke of his Muslim faith before being quickly corrected by George Stephanopolis in an interview.
Maybe Americans are confused by the way he fawns and gushes over Ramadan.
Personally, I don't think he is a Muslim. He say's he became a Christian, I believe him.
But it is all irrelevant.
Islam is a religion, not a race. One of the largest religions on the world.
As such people of ALL RACES are Muslim.
A Teabagger rally. Okay.
I can see how people chanting "FREEDOM" might intimidate you.
Winter Woman
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This is what was asked by the survey takers in your first link. Really?
I'll draw upon three for illustrative purposes. For the first two models, the dependent variables are ordinal, so I report predicted probabilities. The dependent measure for the third model is an index, and is therefore continuous. For this, I estimate a simple regression model. Controlling for political ideology and party identification, support for the tea party (as it goes from its minimum to maximum value) results in a 23% increase in the likelihood that whites believe that "recent immigration levels will take jobs away from people already here." Moreover, support for the tea party decreases support, by 22%, for gay or lesbian adoption. Support for the tea party also promotes racism. In this example, I draw on Kinder and Sanders' (1996) work on racial resentment. I use the following four items to represent racial resentment: "Irish, Italians, and many other minorities overcame prejudice and worked their way up. Blacks should do the same without any special favors"; "Generations of slavery and discrimination have created conditions that make it difficult for blacks to work their way out of the lower class"; "Over the past few years blacks have gotten less than they deserve"; and "It's really a matter of not trying hard enough; if blacks would only try harder, they could be just as well off as whites." (alpha = .75) I use this instead of the stereotype items because it better captures the contours of more modern racism, one in which whites perceive blacks in violation of traditional American values. Really? Really?
Second one is an opinion piece. How can you throw someone out if there isn't a 'party' and Mitch McConnell is not Tea Party. He is an R.
Third one is from 2009! How do you suggest stopping someone from going to an open event?
Fourth one no link
Fifth one is from a personal website and is a personal opinion piece.
Sixth is a Youtube piece from the NewLeftMedia - REALLY?
Winter Woman
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You've forgotten that if the leftists repeat it often enough and say it loud enough they forget the truth and then they believe what they say to be facts not OPINIONS.
As you are apparently planning to repeat the same tired links until every single one is answered; I will do so now.
A Newsweek article which asks a provocative question in the title, but never gets around to actually answering the question in the body of the story. The title is just there for shock value and red meat to Newsweek's Liberal, and dwindling readership.
A few opinion polls and opinions from a few individuals. That's it.
No links to any hate group, just opinion.
That link could not be reached because it redirects to some advertisement, so I Googled "Tea Party Leader Mark William."
He made some ill-advised comments. The one (of many) groups calling themselves Tea Party that he led cut him loose.
They let him go after after making stupid comments. How does that reflect on the Tea Party?
Oh yeah, it doesn't.
I have already addressed this one, yet here it is again!
As you could not be bothered to bring anything fresh to the table, I will post my ORIGINAL response:
No link to this one, but I don't see any reference to the official being a Teabagger, or a Klansman for that matter.
You must not remember the comparisons of Dubya to a chimp.
Just Google Bush chimp and select IMAGES.
How long must Dubya wait for an apology?
They could call him that ugly word if they chose, but they don't. Nothing is stopping them. Yet they don't use it. Could it be that the word is repugnant to them?
FYI, Obama was born a Muslim.
His pappy was a Muslim. Islam is patrilineal.
As a result all of Barack, Sr.'s children were born Muslim.
Maybe Americans were confused when Obama spoke of his Muslim faith before being quickly corrected by George Stephanopolis in an interview.
Maybe Americans are confused by the way he fawns and gushes over Ramadan.
Personally, I don't think he is a Muslim. He say's he became a Christian, I believe him.
But it is all irrelevant.
Islam is a religion, not a race. One of the largest religions on the world.
As such people of ALL RACES are Muslim.
A Teabagger rally. Okay.
I can see how people chanting "FREEDOM" might intimidate you.
dukeanthony
New Member
On the Point of Mark Williams
Before he got fired for making "ill advised comments' (saying in effect blacks had it good as slaves) He was going to quit. Why? So he could dedicate more time to protesting the so called World trade center mosque, and spend more time on the US/mexican Border protesting Los angeles for Boycotting Arizona over their Immigration law
The genie is out of the Bottle. you cant put it back in. Google images of Tea party Rallys look like a photo of a polar bear in a snow storm
Before he got fired for making "ill advised comments' (saying in effect blacks had it good as slaves) He was going to quit. Why? So he could dedicate more time to protesting the so called World trade center mosque, and spend more time on the US/mexican Border protesting Los angeles for Boycotting Arizona over their Immigration law
The genie is out of the Bottle. you cant put it back in. Google images of Tea party Rallys look like a photo of a polar bear in a snow storm
dukeanthony
New Member
You are entitled to your own opinions
But you are not entitled to make up your own facts
Denying racism in the Tea Party doesnt mitigate its existance.
robert 14617
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Denying racism in any party is being dishonest