Umm no it's not about personal responsibility or public funding.
This bill stops people from using their own medical accounts from getting abortions from rape and incest.
The immediate response from the insurance industry will be to drop abortions from their coverage so everything will be out of pocket, which hardly anyone could afford.
This bill is saying that you have to PROVE to the government that you were raped, according to their standards, using a council.
I don't know what you have been listening to or looking at but your statements definitely miss the mark on effectiveness when you apply that to the writing on this.
This is the problem with people, if the right does it, it must be good. Well guess what? Its not, that is hardly ever the case. The right says balance the deficit, and they make it worse...the right says less government, and make it larger...the right says no ear marks, and come close to setting a record number of earmarks...The right says the government isn't working, and stall it for 2 years...The right says "No death panels" which never existed in the first place, and they propose, rape panels...
So forgive me for finding anything they say as complete bullshit. The government will never get smaller, just like our economy isn't getting smaller, and our population isn't getting smaller,so you can go ahead and cast your vote in denial of that fact, or you can vote to actually have a crafting hand in how the government will grow.
Time and again I see the right, and far right, complain and whine like children about the government stopping you from this, or keeping you from that. I hear how the left are a bunch of crooks, and how the republicans are "how the honest government used to be". Well not on my 30 years on this earth. I have seen the american people led down a path of deception.
It has become so terrible that now, opinions weigh more than facts, beliefs trump evidence, and emotions steer more than logic.
The right has no idea what is good for the nation, it only has an idea of what it wants.
I haven't seen a bill about jobs, education, deficit spending, wars, taxation reform, none of it. I know its early but I haven't seen an initiative towards any of that either. There sure as hell is an initiative towards repealing healthcare, like it matters, they know it will never happen, yet they waste their time with it. There is an initiative to redefine rape and limit abortions. The federal government supplies exactly 0 dollars towards abortions, you they will make you think we have funded every one.
I have a hard time seeing how any of those things have an influence on jobs or deficit (actually repealing healthcare would adding to the deficit, but instead of taking those facts to the bank, just use your emotion to hate it enough to ignore that, or say "thats not true" with no data what so ever to back that)
I hear the same thing I always have. Lower taxes = Jobs.
I suppose next is prayer in schools, since the GOP owned judiciary already took on campaign finance reform.
We can go back and forth all we want, but the bottom line for me is that this country has been held back by belief and conservatism for far too long. There is a clear path, loaded with data from professors, professionals, and economists on what we have to do to balance the budget, create jobs, and adapt to our new competition in the 21st century. But all of that has been incorrectly labeled as "extreme left" or "socialist", when it is simply common sense that doesn't fit into the rights cookie cutter. Health care needs to have a multipayer system with a public option in order to compete with all foreign workers, both in the east and west. The tax system needs to be reform drastically to stop the corporate loop holes and come up with a reasonable and enforced tax rate. Social Security age needs to be thought about, medicare needs to shrink and shed its weight on a public option to prevent half the problems it treats in the elderly. Medicare should be able to negotiate drug costs with suppliers (as any other entity is able to do). Spending needs to be fine tuned to actually yield a benefit. Federalism needs to be addressed for what it is, an antiquated system of shoveling state debt on the federal government. Our education system needs someone to invent the light bulb for it. Taxes need to be increased on a federal level in order to decrease them on a state and local level. (ever notice that as fed taxes drop, state and locals go up? Its all the same wallet, except you have exemptions and credits on federal levels)
Repealing the health care bill = no where near productive
We are a big nation, with a big economy, with a big responsibility. You can't run that well at all with a small government. That is why one has never existed. So either live in denial fantasy land, where anything not involving a smaller government if fodder for you getting upset like your so perfect and the government is SOOOO holding you back. Or accept that this is what it is, and although it may not be what you wanted, it is what the society that inhabits this country needs, as contrapositive to the individual as that sounds.
Whats more important: the good of the individual, or the good of the society? Or are they the same once everything is said and done.
keep drinkin' that kool aid, eventually it will kill of that last braincell and you too will be on the government dole.
i suppose you like having government sticking its nose up your ass. well - different strokes for different folks, but i don't see why the rest of us should have to engage in such pastimes just because you enjoy it. take a good look at those programs you cited and you'll find them to be little more than slush funds for trifling political animals. we pay into them and then find they've been raided for some bit of fluff, so we pay even more for what we thought we were getting in the first place. if government contained the lest bit of competence we wouldn't bitch about life's little ups and downs like this, but we have yet to see the bastards do anything right.
by the way - i'm certainly no fundamentalist whack job, but i don't see why we should all be paying for the retroactive birth control of penniless reprobates either. this isn't a matter of christian values, but of simply demanding that people take a bit of responsibility for their actions. i guess that's a concept that's just a bit beyond the left's understanding.
how dare they use their own money to abort the product of that violence. 
