Tahoe OG in Dual Monster Plant System (Scrog Edition)

lordjin

lordjin

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BluBerry said:
Ok. I didn't mean anything by it and was not critiquing you or your plants. Sorry if you took offense to anything I said. Good Luck to you!
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No offense taken. But when someone says I need to improve in an area that I think I did a great job on, I'm not gonna stay quiet and just say thanks.

Just because one person grows marijuana under a screen and another person grows marijuana under a screen, it doesn't mean both situations are the same.

Peace.
 
daveroller

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Hey Jin. Changing my res water today... I noticed that when I follow the nutrient calculator on AN's web site exactly, I get a ppm of 1100-1200 (calculated from 50% of microSiemens I believe). That's quite a bit higher than you had. Did you mix your nutes to a lower ppm only because it's right for Tahoe OG or should it be around 500 ppm for any kind of pot plant?

(I'm probably dyslexic, so if I got any numbers wrong, that's why.)

Thanks.
 
lordjin

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daveroller said:
Hey Jin. Changing my res water today... I noticed that when I follow the nutrient calculator on AN's web site exactly, I get a ppm of 1100-1200 (calculated from 50% of microSiemens I believe). That's quite a bit higher than you had. Did you mix your nutes to a lower ppm only because it's right for Tahoe OG or should it be around 500 ppm for any kind of pot plant?

(I'm probably dyslexic, so if I got any numbers wrong, that's why.)

Thanks.
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Yeah, I don't know what the AN calculator thinks we're growing, but that's way too much. Mix it by what it says in a jar of water and introduce to your res based on PPM. That's the only way to fly and prevents so many problems. I did it with GH, I do it with AN. I tell noobs this, they say okay, and then just pour however many ml the bottle says right into their res and wonder why their plants are fucked up.
 
lordjin

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Okay, so if you're a guy who first tried pot in the 8th grade like me, you know what to expect when you light up. You light up, you get high, done deal. And it goes on that way for years and years until someone says, "Hey, check out this Kona Gold my cousin got from Hawaii!" It doesn't even look like marijuana to you. You've never seen this twisted golden/green crystal covered flower before. All you've seen is weed. And you smoke it. Good weed redefined.

Then comes the early 90's when them cats up in Humboldt were turning out their special shit and making a name for their county. Great weed. Rivaled the best Hawaiian of the time. And these were going for forty bux for huge quarter ounce buds. Unreal. Oh those were the days... Good weed redefined again.

Then word of this very special bud called "Koosh" or something like that started getting talked about big time. Hello, OG Kush phenomenon... we meet at last. Weed getting me high is a given now. I don't even think about that anymore. I've looked beyond and gauge specific physical and emotional sensations within the high. Shop weed gets you good and high, but those nuanced intangibles like a peaceful sense of well-being are not always there.

That's why I grow my own shit. Not only is my weed more potent than the shop weed, it's more potent in a better way. That sticky still wet bud last night totally changed the game for me this morning. I still felt it raging through my bloodstream after I woke up and the sensation was very, very peaceful even without a wake and bake. This is the sensation store bought weed just cannot produce consistently... a sense of peace and well-being. My weed gives me this every time. I was joking with the shop people just now that though I think their og's are good, I can hardly wait until my harvest dries. Actually, I wasn't joking.
 
daveroller

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lordjin said:
Yeah, I don't know what the AN calculator thinks we're growing, but that's way too much. Mix it by what it says in a jar of water and introduce to your res based on PPM. That's the only way to fly and prevents so many problems. I did it with GH, I do it with AN. I tell noobs this, they say okay, and then just pour however many ml the bottle says right into their res and wonder why their plants are fucked up.
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Thanks boss. I gotta dilute this stuff somehow now. Ugghh!

FWIW, I took Bluberry's comment about SCROGing as a positive one, not a knock on you. You get an A+ for this grow in my book. But what do you think of the idea of flipping to flower before you're finished filling the screen? There's still some more stretch after the transition to 12/12, before flowers appear, isn't there? The only difference is the timing of the transition, not how much tucking you end up doing. That would be exactly the same as you did. Just a thought from a newb. I could be all wet.

Happy harvesting, man!
 
lordjin

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C.Indica said:
Hahaha day 54.

Man my bottle clone is day 52 right now, and I have to leave town on day 56.
So I either chop heron 56, and get the sativabuzz my last harvest was,or I wait until day62, ensuring anindica crushing high.
I think I'm gonnw ait for 62, andman I cant describehow irritating this chatbox is, it's killed my normally perfect grammar into some middle school typo ridden mess.
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Let me see it.
 
lordjin

lordjin

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daveroller said:
Thanks boss. I gotta dilute this stuff somehow now. Ugghh!

FWIW, I took Bluberry's comment about SCROGing as a positive one, not a knock on you. You get an A+ for this grow in my book. But what do you think of the idea of flipping to flower before you're finished filling the screen? There's still some more stretch after the transition to 12/12, before flowers appear, isn't there? The only difference is the timing of the transition, not how much tucking you end up doing. That would be exactly the same as you did. Just a thought from a newb. I could be all wet.

Happy harvesting, man!
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While his comments are completely correct for his grow, they don't apply to mine. Not as a personal knock or anything, I just need to clarify and put up accurate information. I get the sense that a lot of people read this garbage for some reason. Lol.

I didn't fill my screen completely before flipping. There was about 10-12% of empty screen left. I used up this space quickly with just a few last minute tucks during early flower. So as the plants stretch (first two weeks of 12/12 most vigorously, but still stretch well into flower development) room of any kind becomes a premium, and my powerful upwards jutting colas don't allow any further tucking to even enter one's mind.
 
C.Indica

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Charging my batteries now.
The cool thing \is, evenwith teh flower fert I mixed for her@ week 6, all vigorous and such, seemed like the perfect finisher dose.
I haven't flushed with pure water yet atall, and she's already "autumn-ing" I think I won't even have to flush her atall, we'll see how taste goes,.
 
daveroller

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lordjin said:
While his comments are completely correct for his grow, they don't apply to mine. Not as a personal knock or anything, I just need to clarify and put up accurate information. I get the sense that a lot of people read this garbage for some reason. Lol.

I didn't fill my screen completely before flipping. There was about 10-12% of empty screen left. I used up this space quickly with just a few last minute tucks during early flower. So as the plants stretch (first two weeks of 12/12 most vigorously, but still stretch well into flower development) room of any kind becomes a premium, and my powerful upwards jutting colas don't allow any further tucking to even enter one's mind.
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Ah! Sorry I missed that detail before. A++++++++++++++ then.
You're La Bamba, Jin!
 
BluBerry

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daveroller said:
Thanks boss. I gotta dilute this stuff somehow now. Ugghh!

FWIW, I took Bluberry's comment about SCROGing as a positive one, not a knock on you. You get an A+ for this grow in my book. But what do you think of the idea of flipping to flower before you're finished filling the screen? There's still some more stretch after the transition to 12/12, before flowers appear, isn't there? The only difference is the timing of the transition, not how much tucking you end up doing. That would be exactly the same as you did. Just a thought from a newb. I could be all wet.

Happy harvesting, man!
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Thank you. I wasn't trying to knock anyones style. Shit it was your first Scrog and you did fine Jin. I merely had an opinion and didn't say my opinion was right or wrong. But I won't be posting in here anymore. Peace!
 
lordjin

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BluBerry said:
Thank you. I wasn't trying to knock anyones style. Shit it was your first Scrog and you did fine Jin. I merely had an opinion and didn't say my opinion was right or wrong. But I won't be posting in here anymore. Peace!
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I wasn't saying you were wrong, either. But I couldn't have done what you suggested even if I wanted to with the speed and vigor of my early flower growth. And why stop posting in here?
 
lordjin

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But I don't wish these were taller...


You can thank DST and others for my continual bombardment of obnoxious photo updates.

You can't see it in these photos, but there's massive yellowing now and the purple has shown itself on the yellow leaves. A sure sign of OG maturity. I injected the res back up slightly with nute and calmag since I'm going an extra few days. So these are gonna be done, done, done by day 55, guys. There's no going beyond that.

Shit's getting even more gnarly... and the leaves are giving up the ghost... but slowly and in a controlled manner.


You want trichomes? You got trichomes.

And finally a pulled back shot of my lil' ol' scroggy scrog. Ain't she sweet, y'all?

No popcorn.
 
HiImNick

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Awesome looking finish Jin! Things turned out exactly as you planned, save for the stretch of the plants. Ridiculous trichs and I believe every word when you say that it's sticky as shit :P lol. I'm glad everything turned out okay.

I gotta ask, though, do you really believe it when you state over and over again that you have the best buds? It is a relative term, "best." The reason why I bring this up is because more and more I hear it from So-Cal stoners that OG's and Kush's are OMFG THE GREATEST. Not to say that I don't enjoy my fair share of Bubba's, Master's, Sour's (Headband), and of course OG's. And definitely not knocking on your terrific, bountiful harvest, but there are other strains out there... for example, ever had some amazing Jack Herer? There's a reason why that particular strain is literally recognized by the Dutch gov't as actually having medicinal qualities. I find that when smokers or growers claim ONE strain as the greatest, they limit their creativity and potential venues of innovation. If we just ate out our favorite foods all the time, we'd never have any variety! (Or if we just watched Fox News we'd all be doomed! lol)

But I've always strayed on the ere of caution when growers claim they have the absolute "best." I love hydro and have been growing using hydro for over a year and I do recognize the potential for greatness, as in your grows. But to be perfectly frank on my many visits to the Emerald Triangle I've seen how amazing outdoor grows, grown under the loving Californian sun, can turn out SUPER DANK and those growers don't claim to be the BEST. You simply "cannot" match the taste imparted by using organic nutrients and teas--even many soil and Super Soil grows I've tasted could claim themselves as the BEST. Or can you?... The point is, it's all relative, man.

I think that the mark of a good grower is an open mind and a drive, nay, a passion to continuously improve and to never completely dismiss techniques based on the premise that something converse that you've done worked, the one time you've done it... The few "master growers" I've met certainly do not consider themselves masters but they undoubtedly are. And with that they have the element of humility. I see many good things in your grows in the past--discipline, attention to detail, and confidence. However, let's not get cocky :)

-Nick <3
 
lordjin

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HiImNick said:
Awesome looking finish Jin! Things turned out exactly as you planned, save for the stretch of the plants. Ridiculous trichs and I believe every word when you say that it's sticky as shit :P lol. I'm glad everything turned out okay.

I gotta ask, though, do you really believe it when you state over and over again that you have the best buds? It is a relative term, "best." The reason why I bring this up is because more and more I hear it from So-Cal stoners that OG's and Kush's are OMFG THE GREATEST. Not to say that I don't enjoy my fair share of Bubba's, Master's, Sour's (Headband), and of course OG's. And definitely not knocking on your terrific, bountiful harvest, but there are other strains out there... for example, ever had some amazing Jack Herer? There's a reason why that particular strain is literally recognized by the Dutch gov't as actually having medicinal qualities. I find that when smokers or growers claim ONE strain as the greatest, they limit their creativity and potential venues of innovation. If we just ate out our favorite foods all the time, we'd never have any variety! (Or if we just watched Fox News we'd all be doomed! lol)

But I've always strayed on the ere of caution when growers claim they have the absolute "best." I love hydro and have been growing using hydro for over a year and I do recognize the potential for greatness, as in your grows. But to be perfectly frank on my many visits to the Emerald Triangle I've seen how amazing outdoor grows, grown under the loving Californian sun, can turn out SUPER DANK and those growers don't claim to be the BEST. You simply "cannot" match the taste imparted by using organic nutrients and teas--even many soil and Super Soil grows I've tasted could claim themselves as the BEST. Or can you?... The point is, it's all relative, man.

I think that the mark of a good grower is an open mind and a drive, nay, a passion to continuously improve and to never completely dismiss techniques based on the premise that something converse that you've done worked, the one time you've done it... The few "master growers" I've met certainly do not consider themselves masters but they undoubtedly are. And with that they have the element of humility. I see many good things in your grows in the past--discipline, attention to detail, and confidence. However, let's not get cocky :)

-Nick <3
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You have to take what I say with a grain of salt. You might notice I always mention Arjan whenever I say my weed is the 'best marijuana in the world.' I'm saying to Arjan just what you're saying to me. Don't get cocky. I'll put my weed up against any grower from any part of the world. Growing great weed isn't that hard... I don't expect to win every time, but I think I can at least compete without getting blown out of the water. Super bomb masterfully grown organic outdoor vs. Super bomb masterfully grown indoor hydro. It would be a match-up to be sure, because one probably wouldn't walk away saying one was shit and the other was great.

I'm in Los Angeles, bro. Things are different down here. I talk a lot of shit about OG being the best, but really I grow it out of necessity because OG being number one is the consensus in my area. Yeah, there's other good strains out there, but in LA shops they are all and I mean ALL considered #2 next to OG Kush. You will never find an LA menu where the top flight meds don't say OG in front of it. As in "the OG is good, but the Jack is better." I'm not saying one thing is true and the other is not, but that's just the way the dice rolls around here.

EDIT: I TAKE IT BACK -- OG KUSH IS BETTER THAN JACK HERER. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT TO SAY.

And I'm all for humility, but I grow great weed. I'm not afraid to say it. And since it's my journal, I do believe that is my prerogative?

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Hey, I kinda like that my journal is getting dicier. All this cock-sucking can get boring. Lol.

Reading and posting comments in my journal are completely on an 'at will' basis. If you don't think I'm being humble, just change the channel or don't tune in. It's a free country and a free Rollitup.

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And I didn't plan for the stretch of the plants? Have you been reading this journal? I give criticism in journals only when it's warranted. I don't just criticize for the sake of criticizing.
 
HiImNick

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lordjin said:
You have to take what I say with a grain of salt. You might notice I always mention Arjan whenever I say my weed is the 'best marijuana in the world.' I'm saying to Arjan just what you're saying to me. Don't get cocky. I'll put my weed up against any grower from any part of the world. Growing great weed isn't that hard... I don't expect to win every time, but I think I can at least compete without getting blown out of the water.

I'm in Los Angeles, bro. Things are different down here. I talk a lot of shit about OG being the best, but really I grow it out of necessity because OG being number one is the consensus in my area. Yeah, there's other good strains out there, but in LA shops they are all and I mean ALL considered #2 next to OG Kush. You will never find an LA menu where the top flight meds don't say OG in front of it. As in "the OG is good, but the Jack is better." I'm not saying one thing is true and the other is not, but that's just the way the dice rolls around here.

And I'm all for humility, but I grow great weed. I'm not afraid to say it. And since it's my journal, I do believe that is my prerogative?
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Ahhhh... I do see that, now that you mention it. Any of Arjan's vids on Youtube are always about how GH seeds are the greatest, lol. I guess I'm not as clever as I thought and didn't notice that.

I'm definitelyyyy-DEFINITELY not ragging on OG's at all. In fact, it's not just So-Cal anymore. My last visit to a Nor Cal dispensary (Sonoma Medicinal Herbs) ended up with me buying a quarter of some "OG-Wow" and a gram of their N2 OG-Wow hash. I looove OG's for their amazing flavor and potency and OG-anything easily ranks among my Top 5. Methinks they taste of salty lemonade.

You know I respect you man. And I do honestly think that you are one of the best growers on this website. Err... on the net. Keep growing ^_^
 
lordjin

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But I mean, come on, look at this. Look at this bombastic journal. I call myself "Lordjin" for Christ's sake.

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It should not surprise anyone now, before, or later that Jin is fucking full of himself. But it's just a character I play for your amusement. You see, in reality I am but the shyest of lambs, and this is the only outlet where I can safely stick my chest out in front of the keyboard. Lol.

But you guys love it, too. That's why you read my journal. Because I'm dirty... not because I'm safe.
 
daveroller

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lordjin said:
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And I didn't plan for the stretch of the plants? Have you been reading this journal?
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Hey, I was distracted by the girlie pics and missed that part. :-)
No, I probably just forgot. My memory is horrible nowadays. Chronic pain & too many meds both do that. Anyway, I certainly wasn't criticizing.
 
BluBerry

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The stretch is hard to control. No doubt! With most strains in any setup. Me personally, I try to fill the screen about 2/3 then flip to flower and let it fill in from there. That is just what works for me but I am still learning and learn new things everyday. I do agree with your last post. I think you like the attention that the thread gets and feed off of it. With 2000 likes it's understandable. And I do think of you as humble for the most part but don't let it go to your head. You are a good grower but so are alot of others. You're just better with words than alot of others. Not trying to carry this on. Compliments on the grow and happy harvest. Love, Peace & Hair Grease!
 
daveroller

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lordjin said:
But I mean, come on, look at this. Look at this bombastic journal. I call myself "Lordjin" for Christ's sake.

Warning:
It should not surprise anyone now, before, or later that Jin is fucking full of himself. But it's just a character I play for your amusement. You see, in reality I am but the shyest of lambs, and this is the only outlet where I can safely stick my chest out in front of the keyboard. Lol.

But you guys love it, too. That's why you read my journal. Because I'm dirty... not because I'm safe.
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Keep it up and don't stop writing that way, man. I really enjoy the role you play here! I know it's simply your style of expressing your joy and pride of achieving something that really is awesome. I laugh a little inside when I read that. It wouldn't be as interesting if you didn't write so passionately.
 
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