Super Indica Unkown Bagseed Strain Grow (Gaint seedling content inside)

Yup cara...this is Moltar

Ok, i have been fucking astonished to say the least over my most recent bagseed grow, im only 8 days into (from putting the germed seed in soil, NOT from poping above ground) it yet this beast looks like most plants 2 weeks in at LEAST, this thing is already wider than the 1 gallon pot it is in and only 3 inches tall. unfortunately the 21 little seedlings i had baked in the sun on a day i went to my parent's house :'( they were in solo cups so they dried out and fried. i only had 3 viable seeds ledt so i germ'd them and this is what i have to show for it...i moved the other two outside the hopefully get a small yield before the first frosts in november. ill add pics of them on here tomorrow when there is light outside lol

the indoor baby is under 3, 23 watt 2700k cfl's, as i JUST switched to 12/12 today because i only have about 1 foot 5 inches of vertical grow room, compesnsating for being about2 inches from the lights


i will be adding up to EIGHT 13 watt 2700k cfl's for supplemental lighting as it grows taller.


as of right now i JUST topped it, and 8 small tops are forming at the inter-nodes.


I have never had a plant grow this fast, looking this healthy, and ALL 3 are growing the same way, super fast and super green. Im expecting, if this goes femm, about a half o of some super dank Indica body melting BUD! if i get 1 female from the 2 outdoors im hoping to double the yield this is just to give me some bud to last me a good long while, as i usually limit myself to a bowl or two a day. And good sensi usually runs you about 200 a half o here in eastern TN


Here it is in its setup, current temps are 72 farenheight during light cycle, 66 farenheight during dark, when i hook up all 8 of the other 13 watts to mock up what temps would be like in full flower, i get 84 lights on, same 66 with them off (66 being what my air conditioning is set to)

Here is a height comparison with a lighter

And to show how insanely wide it is for only being 8 days old and how insanely INDICA it is as well lol (the tip of the leaf on the top of the pic was trimmed because my cat decided to chew it up >

and here is said cat the chewed the leaf....her name is Smur, BAD SMUR!!!! (the Pug is my dog Mo, hes cool as shit





follow along for an interesting grow

Oh yea, here are some pics of the Bud i get my seeds from, its is NOT actually this color in person, thanks to the shit cell phone pics, it has a muc more "limey-green" color in person. and the hairs are more PINK than red/orange




It is definately the BEST NON-SENSI bud i have found around here, it has that wonderfull fruity dank smell to it, with a HINT of a piney/musky aroma...By non-sensi i mean i find the OCCASIONAL seed, maybe 4-5 seeds per half ounce. No less potent then the standard Sensi Dank i can get, i just prefer it becuase i get GREAT smoke, and GREAT seeds at the same time




Pretty sure this nug was EARLY harvested, definately the structure of indica, and the offspring does not lie, yet the Nug still has a very Heady, soaring high, unlike most indica ive had the pleasure of smoking

This is the same nug all my auto toppers come from

Looks good might have some transpiration issues.

looks dank

no transpiration issues,(unless my brother caused them) thats just where my dumbass brother pinchess the leaves to get a good release of tupines so he can smell it... he does this WAAAAAY too often, so the tips of the leaves get a leathery appearance to them, i have got him to stop though


check it out guise :3 .... 2 inches of growth in a SINGLE 12 hour dark period and its first teaspoon of molasses...it is still a really nice super dark green. It is just the 2700k lights that give it that yellow sheen


Pictures of my outdoor babies coming soon as it quits raining


might have something to do with the crazy growth rate...i have had this song by periphery playing to my baby on loop in the box with an MP3 and computer speakers for 5 days now lol [youtube]1pskj9sbffg[/youtube] i have heard low frrquency vibrations cause vital fluids to move throughout the plant more quickly and efficiently

Here are some pics of the outdoor babies....same age....same strain







and a Picture of the Inter-nodal growth on the indoor baby



And this pic should explain in DEATAIL why i switched to 12/12 SOOOO early xD

got some pic updates for yall....did some trimming

Big update yes siry bob

Indoor baby, 2 weeks from breaking soil, 5 days into 12/12 i believe. Got 6 tops going strong


And a height comparison


The outdoor babies day12 from breaking soil, they are so close together because i expect at least one to be male, which will be culled, if the remaining goes male i will let it bud out full and make some QWISO since i wouldnt have enough time to start more anyway. They are both the same bagseed strain, both from the same bud actually, but the one on the right is exhibiting a more sativa pheno, the left more indica (same pheno as the indoor baby, who ALSO came from the same bud) THE SATIVA IS BEING PLAGUED WITH BLACK AND WHITE INCH WORMS, WHAT CAN I DO TO STOP THEM, the indica seems VERY pest resitant though, just a couple holes


The Sativa-ish pheno (please help with inch worm problem, they are black with white sides, ill try to find one to get a pic tomorrow if it isnt raining)


The Indica Pheno (same pheno as indoor baby)


and the remaining seeds of this strain, they are HUGE and medium brown with dark, and almost black spots and stripes, never found an immature seed, NEVER had a failed germination with these



I am enjoying watching them grow...all seems to be going pretty well. Except im about to post a video showing a problem with one plant's topping (for lulz)

VIDEO UPDATES FOR OUTDOOR BABIES ON DAY 14 from breaking soil, 2 days after the last pics i posted just a minute ago

Ok, the sativa pheno topped just fine, got 2 tops replacing the one i cut, but the indica pheno didnt handle it so well, i though i may have accidentally fimmed it, but i didnt, i correctly topped it and only ONE top started growing, not even a HINT of a second top, so all i effectively did was slow down the growth for 36 hours it seems -_-

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and yes my yard is beautiful, but it is a BITCH to mow and upkeep (4 acres field, 11 acres of woods with random clearings, clearings that i have recently discovered and will probably be utilizing next grow season )

they are only drooping because of the heavy rain that had JUST passed at the time of the video

thats crazy

Really nice bagseed plant man. The inter-nodal growth is spectacular. That being said, why the hell did you remove two of it's largest leaves? Those were big beautiful leaves that were collecting lots of light and converting that light to energy for plant growth. Trim the branches, leave the leaves alone though bro. Your outdoor plants look nice too, I think the plant on the right would have wider leaves and tighter nodes like the others if it didn't have the bug problem. Maybe try some neem oil? Worms are sensitive to salt, also, but I don't know how good that would be for the plant. Not very I think.

bigherb420 said:

thats crazy

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i know man, all 3 are two weeks old and look like they are over a month....IM KEEPIN THESE GENETICS!!!


if your refering to the topping...i know, 'tis a bitch -_-

georgyboy said:

Really nice bagseed plant man. The inter-nodal growth is spectacular. That being said, why the hell did you remove two of it's largest leaves? Those were big beautiful leaves that were collecting lots of light and converting that light to energy for plant growth. Trim the branches, leave the leaves alone though bro. Your outdoor plants look nice too, I think the plant on the right would have wider leaves and tighter nodes like the others if it didn't have the bug problem. Maybe try some neem oil? Worms are sensitive to salt, also, but I don't know how good that would be for the plant. Not very I think.

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nah, the non worm-damaged leaves do have thinnner leaflets than the other two, its harder to tell in the pic because the top leaves are the damaged ones. look at the tips of the leaves nesr the tops of the plants in the bottom right of BOTH photos...the tip of the leaf in the sativa ish one is un damaged, and all the undamaged leaflets are thinner lol.

And i waited till the internodal growth reached the bottom of the 7 finger leaves, like i usually do, then i trimmed em, so the new growth got all direct light, it repaid me with about a half inch stretch in about 4 hours so im still liking the results lol, i could care less since the growth rate didnt slow a bit xD

still wondering why the inch worms seem to prefer the plant to the right, maybe its a good sign, in my experience flies and shit seem to like the females more, but thats usually just in flowering, the outdoor ones probably wont show sex for another week or two, the inddor im hoping will show withing the week

day 16 update indoor






atampting to wait patiently lol, still cant discern shit xD amd keep in mind im trying to do this with a cell phone lol

today's updates

day 17 from breaking soil:



BUDWISER is the shit xD. can you spot it?


and the BEST UPDATE OF ALL, what APPEAR to be 2 tiny whiteish green pistils coming out of a sesame seed shaped calyx on either side of the second node down on BOTH of the tops from the highest part of the main stem, soory for the cell phone pics, but i am 90% sure with the 20x mag glass that it is FEMALE!!!!!!!!!


praying its not just more new tops xD

what...no love?

Well. it WAS just new tops, but im still happy, as the longer it takes to show sex after the 12/12 switch, the greater the chances of it being female


heres some updates:

Day 19 from breaking soil, day 9 of 12/12...t minus and counting down to the beginning of flowering. This baby is a fucking BEAST and you know it. some leaflets had to be sacrificed as somehow i locked Skeety in my box without realizing it :/


that lighter is getting tiny, i may need a new size comparison soon xD

And a NEW SEED yet again of the Dro this plant came from, this is NON SENSI PEOPLE, look how frosty this shit comes out even on cell phone pics, i used a 6500k CFL for pic lighting this time because the soft white bulb i used last time made the nug look dark and Middy lol


one more seed for the freezer...cant wait to see how dank my end product will be.

What i got the seeds from, was VERY fruity, almost lemony, out of the 3 of us that grow this strain we have all decided to keep it after this season and we decided on the name "TRIX" it aint for kids

The bud structure is almost like that of sativa, some of the nug i get of this strain sometimes is fox tailed even, yet the high it produces, and the plants theself speak HIGH CBD indica strain to me, thanks to the knock-you-on-your-ass stoney effect

10 days veg and prunned and branches out already in just 19 days of growth . It stayed quite small under those 2700 k`s height wise but has a good number of nodes and branches . Nice going dude this is leet did you cut some of its fans off ? Is it some kind of technique ? . Anyways goodluck hope it turns female the plant looks like a fast growing beast . Peace .

Sup dude! Your plants are looking sic for their age! And fore the wattage system! You can veg for longer with that space tho..I will veg a bit longer but def lst it, that helps a lot and your yield will be more coz the lateral branches forming budsites can get more light! That's what I did with mine after some help from this site and I will def do it to my next grow aswell! Got 17 budsites getting light instead of about 6 when the plant was not lst'd! Even with your little space you can work those plants to get a good yield off it atleast, putting a little guy like that into flowering so early will decrease your yield and also will propably veg untill its ready to flower, that might be why you are not seeing any signs of sex now. But still, good grow man, and tell your brother to leave the plant alone haha

Kieshed said:

10 days veg and prunned and branches out already in just 19 days of growth . It stayed quite small under those 2700 k`s height wise but has a good number of nodes and branches . Nice going dude this is leet did you cut some of its fans off ? Is it some kind of technique ? . Anyways goodluck hope it turns female the plant looks like a fast growing beast . Peace .

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i top at the 4th node, and wait for internodal growth to begin, when it does, i trim the original fan leaves as the new tops reach the same height, and eventually all i was left with was 6 rapidly growing tops, i removed 2 in an attempt to make clones...i failed this go around lol

indoormania said:

Sup dude! Your plants are looking sic for their age! And fore the wattage system! You can veg for longer with that space tho..I will veg a bit longer but def lst it, that helps a lot and your yield will be more coz the lateral branches forming budsites can get more light! That's what I did with mine after some help from this site and I will def do it to my next grow aswell! Got 17 budsites getting light instead of about 6 when the plant was not lst'd! Even with your little space you can work those plants to get a good yield off it atleast, putting a little guy like that into flowering so early will decrease your yield and also will propably veg untill its ready to flower, that might be why you are not seeing any signs of sex now. But still, good grow man, and tell your brother to leave the plant alone haha

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lol, i put a pad lock on the box today because of my bro.

do to selective trimming i got 14 bud sights under direct light with NO lst, i simply do not do lst, because with the trimming and topping method i use you dont need 2, i have 4 PERFECTLY evenly growing tops, and each of those 4 tops are already starting their own internodal growth.

My box just isnt wide enough to make effective use of lst, especially when if you Bonzai correctly you dont need it xD.

took me an hour to post this because rollitup kept flagging me as "non human" and the capchcas ket telling me i typed them wrong