Stop cutting your clone stems at a 45! There's a better way to get a white beard growing.

Budzbuddha

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I do either rooters ( bye bye god damn rock wool ) or water clones. I find a that simple cuts put in a mason jar of water / dash of clonex and or Frank’s Red Hot ( optional ) and off to the races.

Sometimes I get better rooting with water jar than rooter. ( more root nubs and cuts throwing longer roots ) .
I place on a window sill and let them do their thing.

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Rozgreenburn

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Rozgreenburn

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Last Spring I had too many clones, as usual, so I placed them out in the woods. The photoperiod inside was longer than the daylight outside. After a few weeks, they started flowering. Messed my head up, until I figured it out.
 

OldMedUser

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I do either rooters ( bye bye god damn rock wool ) or water clones. I find a that simple cuts put in a mason jar of water / dash of clonex and or Frank’s Red Hot ( optional ) and off to the races.

Sometimes I get better rooting with water jar than rooter. ( more root nubs and cuts throwing longer roots ) .
I place on a window sill and let them do their thing.

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My mom used to clone all sorts of plants on the window sill in a glass of water when I was a kid and her gardens where always beautiful and bountiful. We grew up eating home grown fruit and veg and the huge pantry was full of canned food in mason jars including chicken. Most kids each garbage these days in comparison and the rising obesity rates and falling life spans are beginning to show the results of trading healthy eating for the convenience of highly processed products.

She's almost 95, legally blind for years and still has the nicest patch at the community garden she goes to in her scooter. Best tomatoes ever! :)

:peace:
 

OldMedUser

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yea i dont think ive ever had a clone not root after three weeks in an aeroponic cloner oh for sure always take extra usually keep them for a bit and keep the ones with the best structure
I made a bubble cloner a while back and it works tho I've only used it a couple times.

Little rubbermaid tub I covered the top with the pucks then poked a nail down the centre of each to mark where to drill 5/8" holes then used my little alcohol lamp to melt the edges around the holes so they are nice and smooth. Need long stems so the cuttings don't fall over but could easily add weights to the top of the pucks. I used a little 15w soldering iron to number all the pucks with Roman numerals. Straight lines are easier. :) Then I jot down which clone has which number and if I don't lose the sheet I'll know who is who when I go to plant them.

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Later I realized I should have put the Y junction outside the tub but that got fixed after the pic was taken. The 12" airstone was too long so I cut it to fit and sealed the end with 2-part epoxy cement.

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Found a little cake cover that fit for a dome. I just cover the empty spots with the pucks.

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Damn if it doesn't work! RO water with about 1ml each of AN 3-part in it and a dash of 35% peroxide. Was warm so got a little root rot developing but once planted in ProMix they were fine. I had scraped the last half inch of each stem but those areas just went brown and no roots came out of there. Probably helped start the rot. Note the single airline at the back.

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I tried something similar last week and I'm waiting on my results.

I did 5 parallel cuts on the bottom 1 inch of stem. Then cleaned the fiber/bark from between the cuts.

I honestly have no clue what's going to happen. :hump:
 

Star Dog

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I made a cloner last year it's a great piece of kit it doesn't require anything unusual just tap water, the cut and forget nature of them appeal to me but it's not worth setting up for only a few clones.
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I've tried using bubble stones or a small water pump and they both work well the submersible pump having the bonus of being quiet.
 

OldMedUser

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I honestly have no clue what's going to happen.
I'll tell you what's going to happen. Those f'ers are gonna grow legs and kill you while you sleep for cutting them off their momma! :D

I suspect you'll find that roots won't start in the cleaned off areas but should still root. The ends I cleaned off never grew any roots.

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I suspect you'll find that roots won't start in the cleaned off areas but should still root. The ends I cleaned off never grew any roots.

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Thank you! That's good to keep in mind.

I have read that plants fill in wounds with pressure and tissue cells. That's probably why the cuts work so well and the scraping doesn't. When you scrape, if not deep enough, there's not really anything to fill.

This curiosity voyage is certainly underway.
 
I'll tell you what's going to happen. Those f'ers are gonna grow legs and kill you while you sleep for cutting them off their momma! :D

I suspect you'll find that roots won't start in the cleaned off areas but should still root. The ends I cleaned off never grew any roots.

:peace:

Maybe vertical cuts perpendicular to the horizontal and the length of the submerged/planted stem?!

I just got so excited!!
 

Cannaclysmic Events

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I'm just gonna leave these here in case anyone needs reassurance that the type of cut, and placement there of has a direct and observable effect on root distribution. It's almost like that bark was crimped in such a way it created a spawn site for root formation....hmmm
 

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Cannaclysmic Events

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I wish I knew you in real life so you could show me just how easy this all is:bigjoint:. I've been beating my head against the tent for 6 or 7 attempts now and each one has had it's own failures. But today....... success :bigjoint:. This just got planted in a Solo cup a few minutes ago and replaced with more motorbreath 15 clones. This is the last seed I had from an OG Kush I got in Amsterdam that I really wanted to clone just for nostalgia reasons and the second try at cloning it. It ain't the clusters of fish bones you guys post but I'm betting I'll get it to grow.View attachment 5145843
Nice dude. She's probably a bush by now. How did those Motorbreath clones do?
 

FirstCavApache64

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It's doing well but I'm trying out some using your method as well. The first one I did last week hasn't rooted yet but I think I didn't pierce the skin with the second cut. The one I cut last night had a perfect flat cut on the bottom with my dog's nail trimmer and a second slice about an inch up just piercing the skin all the way around. I might cut some more later today if I find room in the cloner just for practice/testing.
 

Cannaclysmic Events

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WTF dude I wasn't talking to you. Snotty nosed punks like you can FOAD. I'm not spending money on peat pellets so who's the one wasting money here?

I root mine in the same medium they will grow in. ProMix HP Have done for 20 years and hundreds of clones.

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My Apologies, I was mistaken. You're cool dude.

FOAD though? wow! This Muhh Fuhkurr does not play
 
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