starting my fiirst outdoor guerrilla grow

white flies are know to leave those white spots on top of leaf, treat them like aphids.
A white fly problem can be solved basically the same way as aphids. My favorite way to get rid of them is misting your plants in a solution made of 1 part SM90, 5 parts water. When you spray the plants, and make sure you get the undersides of the leaves(that's where they lay eggs).

You will want to spray as sun is going down not to burn the leaves.

Perhaps I will consider that once I've run out of lady bugs, but they seem to be starving for the little whiteflies

Here again with another update, bit shorter this time.

I'm pretty happy with myself today. I was planning on taking an early morning hike out to my spot but didn't even set my alarm last night foolishly, yet I somehow managed to wake up on my own just short of 6 am. I took advantage of this and got my ass moving, I gathered my supplies and packed it all up and got on the road ready for my early morning hike.

Honestly this morning was so peaceful and serene, didn't see a single soul on my way up and I really enjoyed the peaceful solitude of my journey.

I arrived at my spot, however the sun hadn't started to hit it yet and hadn't yet once I had left ( about 7:30 am ). I'm estimating the sun reaches my clearing anywhere after 9 or 9:30 in the mornings, just based on its positioning. With the plants not exposed to the sun in the morning it gave me the perfect opportunity to apply my organic insecticide. Seeing as all the ladybugs had moved on, I figured it was appropriate to apply the insecticide. After misting both the tops and bottoms of the leaves I then watered with Natural Spring water, seeing as the sun has been shining the past week and a half or so and there is still no forecast for rain anytime soon.

Here are some photos of the three healthiest plants




Also, the fourth plant which appeared devastated from the insect invasion is obviously trying very hard to produce new growth. While this was nice to see, that plant is so much behind the other three I'm curious if it can even make a comeback.

Anyways, it was just great to get such an early start on my day. This is the first time I've made it up before my classes even start in the morning and it just made me feel so productive.



How do you guys think they're doing? I'm thinking they're looking healthy and growing well, but should they be further along? Or is this to be expected as they're in recovery from a bug invasion?

Time for another update!

To start off, I have to say I've really benefited from the help of another grower I'm in contact with. The clone that I feared took the worst damage, of the initial four clones I have out there, has been replaced with a much healthier clone about the same age. While I also received two younger clones to start as well.

I'm really considering looking for an area where the canopy is much more sparse to allow in more sunlight. I at first believed they'd be getting adequate exposure in this area, but I am guessing that is my mistake. I really expected them to be growing much more rapidly.. and from looking at the surrounding canopy it is much more fuller than before as Spring is really in full swing now. I can only assume getting them to an area with more direct exposure can really boost their growth.

Any thoughts? Feel free to comment.

Looking good dreamer, ive always wanted to do a gorilla grow. have the perfect spot but not the courage lls. def gonna stay tuned for this. Have u thought about using neem oil once ur lady run out

Thanks Cheeba! It's definitely a fun project to be working on. About the ladybugs, I found them effective at preventing the whiteflies from producing larva, so it saved the three remaining plants, but I didn't set up enough of a hospitable environment for the ladybugs so they would leave the next day when the direct sun hit the plants. So I've switched to an organic insecticide with pyrthrin extracts and neem oil compound that has proven very effective.

Looking good bro

Do you have slugs or snails in your area? They are well known to be leaf munching machines. They hide in the day, or when it is dry. You will see then around when or where it is damp like under rocks or logs that are not tight to the ground (crawl space) or any and everywhere at night when it is wet.

I grow vegetables gardens and hate to use insecticides but sometimes you must, I use a product called SEVEN. It is very effective and one application will last for weeks to a month, it kills everything and is a commercial product used by licensed farmers but a watered down public version can be found almost anywhere.

Never spray anything or your plants when it IS or IS GOING to be hot and dry. Add all sprays and fertilizers in the evening just before the forecast calls for damp or light rainy periods. Splashing shit on the leaves will give you all kinds of different coloured leaves, spots and holes when it is hot and dry, especially when the sun is shining.

I wish you luck when it comes to burying your grow pots underground. I have experience bad things in the past with this. My experience was, I dug a hole in the ground just big enough for the pot. Now the soil around the pothole was hard and the pot’s soil was soft, guess where all the rain water likes to drain too, the nice soft soil, ultimately resulting in all kinds of bad thinks. I hope this doesn’t happen to you.

Good luck growing this year, I’m subbed and I hope everything goes well and for the white spots I have no idea. When growing outside I never really worried about small things like that, where space is unlimited and your overhead cost is low, I always planted more plants in patches and more patches in different areas than one would ever need to worry about. If Peter Rabbit, Bambee or The Pigs got a few I still had a hard time harvesting what was left behind.

Here are three pictures of patches from a few years ago in early summer; I think it was about 5 weeks in from transplant.

Spent a few hours in the dirt today, and relocated all my plants to an area with better sun exposure. Also applied more insecticide. I plan on returning soon to spray this new area with the blood deer/rabbit deterrent and maybe some slug repellent around the plants perimeter as I've noticed some slug damage.

Here's how everything is coming along!

Don't poison your plants and yourself with all that insecticide. It's poison bro, to much too often will kill anything. Dig those plants up one last time an get rid of the pots. They look like they are overwatered. Only trying to help, I'll go f*uckoff now. Later.

I understand your concerns, but the pots have perfect drainage and I honestly can't control how much it rains outdoors, but the soil is not soaked through or drowning by any means. It was always a dark color to begin with.

And for your comments on the insecticide use, the insecticide I've chosen is OMRI listed and contains on natural extracts from Marigold flowers ( that produce a natural insecticide ) and a compound with Neem Oil. The insecticide is natural and non-harmful, boasted as food-safe quality. Even though it can be used up to several days before harvest I won't be doing so as it does a sufficient enough job with almost weekly if not bi-weekly applications.

Sounds like you got it under control with the organic pesticide, seems like it would be sum good shite.

It's been a nice long time since my last post, and I've also acquired a few more clones in that time. The plants are all in a nice stable condition and have been free of pests from some time which really helped them recover from the previous slug infestation.

Here's a nice photo update. As you can see the bottom leaves of the older plants placed out there have definitely been munched on, but all the new growth is completely free of any damage. (Perhaps slowed a bit, but I think they're on a great road to recovery). And the newer clones placed now 2 weeks ago had no signs of damage whatsoever. Today is Week 12 Day 1 but the photos are from Week 11 Day 4 as I haven't been up since that time.




I must note however that the time stamp of Week 12 Day 1 -- doesn't apply to the life span of all 8 plants I have out there, only for 4 of them.

Back again with another update

Went up to my spot yesterday, because its been so hot out I knew my girls could use some water, and everything is looking great. I feel like I can safely say that the insects and slugs I've been dealing with are a problem of the past and my plants are making a great recovery from the damage they had sustained earlier.

Here are some photos of how they're doing!

I'm back with another photo update.
There really isn't too much to say at this point aside from the anticipation is killing me, I can't wait for these girls to start flowering up.
Anyways -- I do have some work left to do, as I gotta bring up more 7 gallon containers for the 4 additional clones I have ( I'm afraid they may be getting root bound )
that will be the biggest work load I will have left. Aside from the time I spend going to water them, especially if the weather stays this warm and dry as it has been.


Here's how they're looking:




If when I go to transplant the 4 additional clones I've acquired into 7 gallon pots and they are rootbound -- I'm curious if it would be advisable to cut the bottom of the one gallon cloth pots and play around with the roots til I can get them hanging out of the 1 gallon pots and immediately transplant to the 7. Would this be a good idea if they were in-fact rootbound?

Don't think it would be best to do that. I would wet the larger container real well with good water. Then bury those cloth pots into the larger one, leaving only an inch or two of the original above the soil line in larger pot. Then water the smaller container well. Those roots will grow through. This way you don't risk cutting roots slowing growth or transplanting also can disturb roots I wound not do that either.

Those roots will find their way down through just ensure larger container well watered, small cloth pot nested leaving only an inch or two above larger container soil line. This will give greater area overall for those roots in the smaller container to find the their way from the lower sides to the bottom which should really take off if done like this in no time, no stress in this matter no down time in growth except what you lost by not doing this earlier.

Hey everyone. It's been a while sense I've put out an update so let's dive in.

It's become very apparent to me that the sunlight my girls receive is really not as optimal as it could have been, but I'm hoping this really won't negatively impact their chance to flower at all. Oh well, I suppose I will just have to give it some time to find out!

Here's the photos!

tangerinedreamer said:

It's become very apparent to me that the sunlight my girls receive is really not as optimal as it could have been.

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Plants are looking great, it will be about two weeks yet before things happen. Care to elaborate a little while you feel this way.

because i feel if my girls had been able to get optimal direct sun exposure for more time then they have been receiving, they would be much much larger. At least that is what I would imagine.

Ok I understand now M8. I feel the exact opposite as you; I would expect the plant to be bigger in height from the stretching due to lack of sun light. Your plants look awesome and I don’t see any stretching so they must be getting sufficient lighting. Now maybe a little more food would have made your plants bigger all-around.


Here is something else to think about, a plant will only grow slightly larger in circumference above ground than the root area underground, have a look at your plants and the pots that they are in, does this make sense?


Have no worries M8, you’re doing fine and clones never seem to get as big as plants started from seed!