Starlite LED / Flip Chip Opto - 640W - 1500+ PPFD 4 BY 4 COVERAGE @ 2 FEET FROM CANOPY

And..... we put the new 640W active under the ppfd meter;

Alex Lau said:

Hey tstick,

I'm not exactly sure how much they weight yet, but the active will be int he range of 15 lbs. The passive will weight significantly higher though.

We will start selling these at HEMPCON, and pricing will be up the following week.

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"significantly higher" weight means that it may be problematic for hanging inside a tent that already has a filter and fan hanging from the ceiling. My tent is supposed to be rated to hold something like 100 lbs from the ceiling, but the heavier the top of the tent gets, the less horizontal stability there is.

I'm not going to be at Hempcon so please keep checking back in here and updating us, Alex. Thanks!

BROCHURE:
http://www.starlite-led.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Starlite_2016_GL_Brochure_F.pdf

ship to RIU users who cant attend hempcon?

yikes! That's waaaay too rich for my blood on an untested fixture/technology. They look cool and I'm ready to get behind them in a big way, but I can't buy it at that price and I couldn't get anyone else on board for that pricing, either. If they were field-tested fixtures and had some independent grows behind them that showed some kind of indication of superior results from using them, then I could see it....maybe. I don't think the Helios fixtures are going to fit the bill, in terms of the right kind of coverage for me, so I've already kind of ruled them out. However, I still think they are cool and I wish you best of luck with them.

I'm assuming the Optilux fixtures marked "A" and "P" respectively, are the most evolved models...and those are the ones I was most interested in...waaaaah!!!! But, hey, if you need a field tester to give you some independent feedback, then let me know!

brochure makes no sense. 100W is brighter than 185 and 240W fixtures on the graphs

Now in the brochure it lists 3000k, 4000k, and 5000k color options, and lists the cobs in luminous efficiency. But in the pictures they look blurple. Are these white light cobs?

And I see they're only around 110-120 lumens per watt, is there some reason we should use them over high efficiency 150+ lm/watt Crees?

TastyNugs said:

Now in the brochure it lists 3000k, 4000k, and 5000k color options, and lists the cobs in luminous efficiency. But in the pictures they look blurple. Are these white light cobs?

And I see they're only around 110-120 lumens per watt, is there some reason we should use them over high efficiency 150+ lm/watt Crees?

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Hi there. Cree COBs are wore bond cobs. Its a different tech and has a lot of disadvantages.

yes but at the end of the day cost and efficiency are pretty much everyones #1 criteria

with most people running their crees at 1/4-1/2 of nominal current, heat dissipation is not an issue

BOBBY_G said:

yes but at the end of the day cost and efficiency are pretty much everyones #1 criteria

with most people running their crees at 1/4-1/2 of nominal current, heat dissipation is not an issue

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I second this.

ttystikk said:

I second this.

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I third that, efficiency equals $$ for growers.

as a point of reference, a CD bin 3590 on a cpu cooler @ 100W is about 125 lm/w with a 90% efficient driver, and costs about $100. granted thats a DIY and yours is assembled, but from a performance perspective, that should be your target

If the Optilux fixtures were half of the "half price" (lol) you have them marked, then you'd probably sell a lot of them regardless of the efficiency comparisons. I want this technology, too...but it has to undercut the current bevy of expensive fixtures out there -by a significant amount. Otherwise, there's no motivation to change from the current Cree stuff that can already make the claim of higher efficiency.

Why are you boasting high center ppfd when at the edge of a 1mx1m you'd have near zero light? That's in reference to page 20, for the optilux 640w 660/450nm grow light. On the chart for 2 feet it still doesn't look like it would cover a 1mx1m. Maybe it's a bad chart, it also says 5000k.






Advertising the 11000 lumen 100w would cover a 3'x3'. When I asked about lumen output of your 100w light you hit me with "When we talk about grow lights, we don't use the term lumens." And then post a brochure with everything in lumens.


Bunch of crazy claims and big ppfd numbers advertised everywhere. The only thing I found on flip chip over wire bonded was better heat dissipation, which is needed since you're producing 30%+ more heat per watt than we typically see with Cree cobs. 100 led lumens/watt can be bought at my local home depot for under $1 a watt.

well under $1 a watt

A19s over 100 lm/watt are $5-$9 for 15 watters

and correct me if i am wrong (happens alot) all led company's have there own versions of flip chip tech. Meaning these will all be coming down in price as the others get there's out there ( Cree is called direct-attach ) So just wait till next summer when helios are the sale price

(when i first seen the 600 watt thought i would be replacing all vero 29 with one led emitter)

BOBBY_G said:

brochure makes no sense. 100W is brighter than 185 and 240W fixtures on the graphs

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I assure you, the 100W graph is actually a minor mistake. The actual reading is lower than 185.

I present to you... pictures of Helios 320W B/R: #krunchbubble

drumroll.... I present Krunchbubble's grow in corporate HD;


That color distortion you see that you think are color blobs or camera defect, is actually the intensity of our COBs reaching all the way to the floor penetrating the canopy.

Non-COBs won't have this intensity.

and here we have.... a picture that shows the incredible rapid BURST and DENSE spurts of growth we see on every plant.