Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

Lysemith, Lowkey

Well-Known Member
water curing... I've heard it works, but with the other options, and the quality of those options, there is no reason to water cure. Ether and Acetone are both very dangerous to use. Acetone is not to be used because it won't evap easily. And ether affects people way too easily, it should not be used unless you have a real hood
I was under the impression that acetone evaporates quite quickly and easily, and access to a quality fume hood is not a problem. Acetone I know strips chlorphyl in prolonged exposure so thats why I might use a water wash. since you seem to have more experience with this alternative solvent thing: could you teach me a few things? Have you ever used a vacuum extraction through porous glass filter tubes? If so, with what solvents? Do you do any subsequent washes? Like an acid base wash almost.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
I was under the impression that acetone evaporates quite quickly and easily, and access to a quality fume hood is not a problem. Acetone I know strips chlorphyl in prolonged exposure so thats why I might use a water wash. since you seem to have more experience with this alternative solvent thing: could you teach me a few things? Have you ever used a vacuum extraction through porous glass filter tubes? If so, with what solvents? Do you do any subsequent washes? Like an acid base wash almost.
Whoa, you are already over my head lol. The very best extracts I've seen are bho that is then iso washed. Filtering through activated carbon will clean up the extract. BUT as I've said already, butane is about the most perfect solvent for cannabis. There really is not need to use anything else, or to do a second wash. Any second washing is to remove the waxes, but the terpenoids go with the waxes so "dewaxing" is actually counter productive medically.
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
Here's one that is just too funny to not post... :)

"Alberta: A 32-year-old man, dubbed “Wile E. Coyote” by a judge, admitted to negligent arson after causing $70,000 in damage in a home explosion. He was trying to make hash oil by dumping butane onto marijuana in a pipe; the highly flammable material exploded while he was nearby playing video games."

LOL @ wile e coyote and nearby playing video games.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Using PVC is a very bad idea. Why? Because phalates can be picked up with the gases.

"What are phthalates? How are they used?
Phthalates are a class of widely used industrial compounds known technically as dialkyl or alkyl aryl esters of 1,2-benzenedicarboxylic acid. There are many phthalates with many uses, and just as many toxicological properties.

Phthalates crept into widespread use over the last several decades because of their many beneficial chemical properties. Now they are ubiquitous, not just in the products in which they are intentionally used, but also as contaminants in just about anything. About a billion pounds per year are produced worldwide.

Intentional uses of phthalates include softeners of plastics, oily substances in perfumes, additives to hairsprays, lubricants and wood finishers. That new car smell, which becomes especially pungent after the car has been sitting in the sun for a few hours, is partly the pungent odor of phthalates volatilizing from a hot plastic dashboard. In the evening's cool they then condense out of the inside air of the car to form an oily coating on the inside of the windshield.

What are the health concerns?
Much of the existing literature on phthalates' toxicological properties focuses on the old approach to toxicology: high level exposure for cancer endpoints, and occupational exposure leading to adult infertility. In the past several years, however, particularly led by Earl Gray's laboratory at the US Environmental Protection Agency, attention has turned to low-dose toxicity of phthalates during crucial windows of fetal development. As these studies have advanced, they have fundamentally changed our perception of potential health risks of phthalates.
http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/newscience/oncompounds/phthalates/phthalates.htm
White pvc tubing has no plasticizers. That is why i specified threaded. I agree that I would not want to smoke phthalates, but these are really only an issue with plasticized, "soft" PVC. cn
 

Matt Rize

Hashmaster
could just roll a joint. lol

crazy how this has all evolved.

i do still smoke joints.

:eyesmoke:
I have to say I don't really smoke flowers anymore, unless its some special haze or whatever. I smoke extracts, drop tinctures, and eat an occasional edible these days. Getting uber high on ganj no longer requires brutalizing your lungs with bong rips and joints of flowers. I think thats a good thing for humanity in general. Less time coughing and more time enjoying the way the high comes on. The "gotta cough to get off" ethos has been proven false, but we all knew that long time now. The changes, they are just starting with cannabis, because we are just figuring the science out.

The whole of society changes, what and how we smoke is just a small part of our evolution. Geek is cool now, and medical marijuana is big $, so I expect our culture to get significantly more advanced in the next few years. You can go with the flow... or fight the current. I do a little of both I suppose.
 

Don Gin and Ton

Well-Known Member
i reckon it's just conditioning. i smoke pure j's at the pub on Fridays which in england is rare. everyone mixes with baccy. i don't cough but everyone else is hacking up a lung. same hitting the bongo.

i'm set to hake a batch of honey but am waiting on getting the tube back from the lad that blew himself up. :rolleyes:
 

TheLastWood

Well-Known Member
Whats funny is that bho makes me cough like I'm dying and ice wax barely makes me cough at all. No explanation for that one.
Bho, the first 2 hits don't make me cough, 3 and I'm done, and then coughing and the only thing that can stop me from coughing after every throat tickling inhale is to smoke a whole cigarette. Idk if I would ever stop coughing without a cig. The wheezing never stops lol.
 

Don Gin and Ton

Well-Known Member
my boss is the same hits it till he hocks up a lung then lights a cig. idk how he does it but i guess it's regulating your breathing maybe. after 2 weeks of smoking dope pure be it pipe or spliff you just don't cough.takes a while to learn how to baby toke a blunt though ;)
 

researchkitty

Well-Known Member
my boss is the same hits it till he hocks up a lung then lights a cig. idk how he does it but i guess it's regulating your breathing maybe. after 2 weeks of smoking dope pure be it pipe or spliff you just don't cough.takes a while to learn how to baby toke a blunt though ;)
I'm the same way.................... Cigs dont make me cough, any pot does. Pipe, joint, blunt, vaporizer, bong, oil rips, anything..........
 

Joedank

Well-Known Member
Erll makes me cough like hell too...I drink a beer or kombuca depending on time of day ;) gotta love being self employed...bubble makes me smile not cough !
 

Don Gin and Ton

Well-Known Member
think the piece you smoke from makes a big difference, like adding stuff like a diffuser & ice pinch to a bong improves the hit immensely.
 
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