some help please

i started some plants but need a little help with them, they are about 2-3 weeks old and are still so small and week.

yeah they are, wow u should have dont some reading, Those are SUPER STRETCHED! replant them up to the top set of leaves. What kind of lights are u using?? Whatever kind ur using u need them ALOT closer to the plant

if there incandescent im going to ROTFLMAO

Bigol'Bong said:

yeah they are, wow u should have dont some reading, Those are SUPER STRETCHED! replant them up to the top set of leaves. What kind of lights are u using?? Whatever kind ur using u need them ALOT closer to the plant

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im using a light for lizards what kind of lights should i be using, and should i leave the light on 24/7? its kind of hard learning on the internet because every site i go to tells me different info.

hey google mylar its a reflective plastic material if you cover the inside of you Rubbermaid with it it will reflect light back at the plant making more use of the small amount of light you are currently providing it

etnte said:

im using a light for lizards what kind of lights should i be using, and should i leave the light on 24/7? its kind of hard learning on the internet because every site i go to tells me different info.

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sounds like you are using a UVB buld is it the compact florescent type? there good for supplementation but not as a primary light source and really should only be run for 6-8 hours a day, if your are going the CFL route pick up some 26w 6500k bulbs as well and a few 26w 2700k's

Yea you deff need to move the lights closer.
Im a new grower too and i have found tons of info on RIU check out my grow it a pretty basic small setup hope it helps!

hey here is the light ive been using, i keep it like 1 1/2 feet away from the plants. so should i be using flouresent lights would that be better?

I'd say get some CLFs there cheep and work pretty well from what i've seen and prolly move the light like 3 in form your plant

that looks like a halogen light.. that's way too hot and inefficient. You need fluorescent light if you wanna keep the temp down and place them ca 1-2 inches away from the plants. If that's just crap bag seed I would start over.

thats not a grow light. Go get urself some compact Floresent Bulbs (CFLS)

They dont cost much, and they do grow pot. U can keep them as close to the plants as u want. and they dont burn them. usually 1-2 inches is good.

so is a clf the same as the energy saver bulbs? cause i have some of those laying around. the ones i have look the same as the ones you are using.

etnte said:

hey here is the light ive been using, i keep it like 1 1/2 feet away from the plants. so should i be using flouresent lights would that be better?

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You want it close as possible without burning, move away if start showing bulb. Metal halide for veg ups for flower. Search rooms setups

read in to color temp. you will need different temps for veg and flower

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Tutorial to Growing with Cfl's

Tutorial to Growing with CFL’s by Doctor Chronic

What is a CFL?



A Compact Fluorescent Light is a type of fluorescent that was originally designed to replace the standard E26 Edison Incandescent Lamp. The reason being, CFL’s will put out the same amount of visible light using much less power and a significantly longer rated life span. Even though the price of the CFL’s is higher than Incandescent bulb’s, they are generally rated to run anywhere from 8,000 to 15,000 hours. There many advantages of using CFL’s. Maybe you are growing personal smoke, or you can’t afford an HID system, or an HID system just isn’t practical. For some, HID lights aren’t available in their area. However, CFL’s are sold almost anywhere (Home Depot, Lowes, Walmart, etc&#8230. CFL’s are in general a much cheaper growing solution, and their just plain simple to use –self-ballastedand it screw’s into a regular light socket. I’m NOT saying CFL’s are better for growing than HID‘s, but in some cases it’s the only thing that will work.


CFL Wattage

Now sometimes there can be a lot of confusion when it comes to power of the light due to poor labeling but we will do our best toclear all of that up. Normally light manufacturers that make CFL’s generally will put two numbers on the box your CFL comes in. One is Actual Wattage and one is the Incandescent Equal. As you can see here on this CFL the Actual Wattage is 23 Watts, and it’s Incandescent Equal is 100 Watt’s. You need to totally ignore the Incandescent Equal and pay attention only to the Actual Wattage of the Bulb.



Color Temperature

You might see a lot of different labels when shopping at the store for CFL’s. Label’s including Soft White, Warm White, Cool White, Bright White, Halogen White, Daylight White, Full Spectrum. And also label’s like 2700K, 3000K, 3500K, 4000K, 5000K, 6400K, and 6500K. These are all the color temperature of the light you are using. This is a measure of how warm or cool the light given off by a lamp appears, with warmer colors having a yellowish tinge and cooler colors being tinged with blue. What confuses some people is that the warmer a color is, the colder its color temperature is. (ex. Warm White = 2700K). Bulbs ranging in the 2700K-3000K spectrum are usually labeled Warm White or Soft White, bulbs ranging in the 3500K – 4000K spectrum are bright white or cool white, 5000K is labeled Full Spectrum, and finally 6400K – 6500K is labeled Daylight. You can grow an entire crop with CFL’s if you chose the right spectrum of bulb’s. For Vegetation you will want to use 6500K or 5000K, and when you flower you will want to switch to 2700K or 3000K . The reason being, throughout the year the plant’s outside receive more 6500K light because the day’s in summer are long and hot and as Autumn/Winter get’s closer the day get’s shorter, and gradually receives less 6500K light and more 2700K light as the plant flower’s. Do what you can to avoid bulbs within that 3500K – 4000K because they emit very little light that Is useful to your plant. Notice here the difference between the CT of these lamp’s



How to use CFL’s?

In order to efficiently use CFL’s to grow your MJ you will need to position the lights around 2 – 4 inches from the foliage of the plant. If you place the light too close, then your plant will have nothing to vertically stretch to and it will remain short and stocky. (Ex. My First Grow and FarmingToronto’s) Some people combat this by addingCFL’s to the side of foliage instead of on top of it. On the other hand if the light is too far away from the plant, the stem will suffer elongation (stretching), which will result in loose and fluffy bud’s.It is very important to note that when using CFL’s it’s a daily “battle” to have lights in the right spot. Many of us are in our grow areas at least once a day anyway, so to move your bulbs a bit really isn’t that big a deal. Also many people wonder is it better to have many low watt CFL’s or just a few high watt CFL’s. Both way’s are capable of provided you a good harvest but I suggest you chose the configuration that is easiest for you and your grow area.

Where can I get these CFL’s?

Many low wattage (23-42) CFL’s can be bought at locate retail giants , such as Wal-mart, Lowes, Home Depot, and just about any hardware store you can find. If you are looking to purchase higher wattage (42 – 200) CFL’s I would recommend ordering them online. http://www.1000bulbs.com/2-to-200-Watt-Compact-Fluorescent-Screw-In-Light-Bulbs/ has very good prices on CFL’s ranging from 2 – 200 Watt’s. http://www.buylighting.com/Non-Dimmable-Compact-Fluorescent-s/75.htm has a good selection ranging from 5 – 200 Watt’s in a wide range of spectrum’s. I have used both of these sites several times and I would recommend them to anyone that plan’s to grow with CFL’s.

In the end there are many different GOOD setup’s so don’t set your mind on the ONE perfect CFL setup. Just apply these basic tip’s when starting a CFL grow and you WILL see success. If you have any questions or comment’s I would greatly appreciate it. I want to thank the one and only, FarmingToronto for editing this Tutorial. Sincerely

ok buddy. so if that is bagseed i would definitely start over. first get yourself some of those cfls. MAKE SURE THE LIGHT THAT SHINES IS A BLUEISH WHITE TINT! if they are the yellowish tint ones, you will need them, but just not yet. so your best bet is to not be cheap and just go to walmart and buy about 6 26watt 6500l cfls. they dont cost much so just do it lol. and when you do get these, also pick up a surge protector and some of these adaptor things that walmart has to offer that convert a regular plug into a light socket. these will allow you to plug the lights into the surge protector(power strip). after doing this, put it in ur setup about an inch or two away from your plants. this has been my veg/clone light setup for about 2 yrs now, so it works pretty good. sorry but that "lizard light" you are using is about as good as sitting next to your plant using a bic lighter for light.

a mix of light is ok. as long as when your vegging you have more of the bluish bulbs. and when your flowering you want more of the yellowish bulbs

i would say leave the lizard light up it does provide UV B which is a catalyst for THC production but leave it up high because it is a halogen and is putting out some considerable heat i'd say keep it about 18'' from the tops of your plant. BUT YOU WILL NEED to buy those cfls also and keep them near 1-2'' away and the emit more light from the sides then they do the tip so figure out a way to hold it sidways

since that lizard light is only gonna help during flowering, id wait til then to put it up, no use of having it now it seems based off what svc said(i have never used a lizard light or had a lizard lol). as far as mixing lights, yes you can but if you can fill it with all blue then do it. during flowering however, you do want to add a blue to all the yellows as that spectrum promotes growth. imo and experiences, i havent seen any benefits of having the yellow in during veg, they have just taken up space that could have been utilized by the highly sought after 6500k's lol

thanks guys for all the help, these are the first plants ive grown so ill take al the help i can get. and im looking to do it the cheapest way possible, if you cant already tell lol..