SOG growers wanted !!!

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10mm fan boy

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Yo bugs, did you ever find out what the problem was with your clones?

I have not been having the best of luck myself.:dunce:

I was doing a whole list of things wrong in my first op and had great luck getting roots @ 10 days.

I can't figure it out. At the 3 week mark I look like this...:wall:
Is AK47 just that much harder to clone that NL or what?
 
grandpabear3

grandpabear3

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Wohjew said:
i didt understand bugs ,moms are imo....? so i should just stay with 3 floods during 18hr lights on
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sorry....imo means "in my opinion" or you'll see imho, "in my honest opinion and about a hundred other variaties. and if 3 gives you the needed growth in 2 weeks then yes leave it alone. if not then bump it up 1 at a time. the problem with sog is that when you fuck up it dont hit till weeks later and by then you forget what you did......short answer, do a log or journal. on paper not here. this is fun, logs are not

GypsyBush said:
Oh you can point and laugh...

I had it coming...

I love Karma too, but it's not calling you names that worries me...

Gypsies have skeletons in their closets too... :o
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i gest only.....we all have skeletons but most of ours dont force us into hiding in one of the most remote places on earth.

GypsyBush said:
You know what I am really good at... (See above post on karma)

Those little dolls that make you go ouch, when I stick a pin in it....

I could... surprise you... but I think I'll keep my othe HPS bulb... at least for now...lol...:bigjoint:
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oh wait a second now, there no need to get mean.


10mm fan boy said:
Yo bugs, did you ever find out what the problem was with your clones?

I have not been having the best of luck myself.:dunce:

I was doing a whole list of things wrong in my first op and had great luck getting roots @ 10 days.

I can't figure it out. At the 3 week mark I look like this...:wall:
Is AK47 just that much harder to clone that NL or what?
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i dont know about other strains but my problem in my cloner was i didnt have the timer set to 1 min on 4 min off. and i never had a problem in rapid rooters, which is why i went back to them exclusively for a while. now i do both.
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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Bugs I almost had a fire. Listen to this shit...
When my res would get lower due to flooding the table, the powerhead that mix's the nutes had it's nozzle pointed up and was shooting water out of the slit between the lid and the tub of the res and onto my el'cheapo power strip and digital timer. The water got inside of the digital timer and hit the perfect spot to complete the on circuit to make the pump run constantly and flood the table for 24 hours straight. By the time I found it, I could hear the power strip arching inside and it was super hot. Another 15 minutes w/o finding it and I'm in jail right now.
On another good note, I went to 90% perlite and 10% floc for all my current mothers and upcoming SOG plants. Hopefully I see huge improvements. RW floc was staying way too wet!! If I waited for that shit to dry enough for healthy roots I would only have to flood weekly. I don't know how Al did it flooding that shit daily. I cant get shit for a harvest with that stuff... For my first harvest I'm guessing I will get between an 1/8 and 1/4 for each plant. My second harvest will be about the same. After that I will be mainly growing Blueberry with some Snowdog on the outer edges for my personal, and I'll be using perlite so maybe I can make a half o per plant then. Its hard going from a small soil grow to this... Cant wait till I get better at controling everything...
 
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deezbud

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CustomHydro said:
Bugs I almost had a fire. Listen to this shit...
When my res would get lower due to flooding the table, the powerhead that mix's the nutes had it's nozzle pointed up and was shooting water out of the slit between the lid and the tub of the res and onto my el'cheapo power strip and digital timer. The water got inside of the digital timer and hit the perfect spot to complete the on circuit to make the pump run constantly and flood the table for 24 hours straight. By the time I found it, I could hear the power strip arching inside and it was super hot. Another 15 minutes w/o finding it and I'm in jail right now.
On another good note, I went to 90% perlite and 10% floc for all my current mothers and upcoming SOG plants. Hopefully I see huge improvements. RW floc was staying way too wet!! If I waited for that shit to dry enough for healthy roots I would only have to flood weekly. I don't know how Al did it flooding that shit daily. I cant get shit for a harvest with that stuff... For my first harvest I'm guessing I will get between an 1/8 and 1/4 for each plant. My second harvest will be about the same. After that I will be mainly growing Blueberry with some Snowdog on the outer edges for my personal, and I'll be using perlite so maybe I can make a half o per plant then. Its hard going from a small soil grow to this... Cant wait till I get better at controling everything...
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i use the grodan mini cubes in an ebb and flow sog, i water my big ones once a day and the smaller ones every other usually. i am looking to try fytocell asap. my first harvest pictures are coming up but im running 3 strains so i think my bubblegum is gonna take longer than heavy duty fruity and hog.
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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deezbud said:
i use the grodan mini cubes in an ebb and flow sog, i water my big ones once a day and the smaller ones every other usually. i am looking to try fytocell asap. my first harvest pictures are coming up but im running 3 strains so i think my bubblegum is gonna take longer than heavy duty fruity and hog.
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Ur running three strains that all finish at different times in the same tray? Doesn't that really fuck shit up? like timing out clones. If I used grodan mini cubes I would be broke. Plus I really do hate RW and I will never use it again alone as a medium no matter what form it is in. I hate chasing PH, and pre soaking a big brick of the shit in my bathtub is no fun either.
After plenty of research on Fytocell I realized it was very similar to perlite. The water to air ratios are very similar, the only real difference is Fytocell is environmentally friendly because it decomposes. Sorry enviro nuts, I believe that the big coorporations make money off of our landfills by dumping unneccessary garbage, and if they can dump millions of tons of garbage, I should be able to dump a square meter of perlite every month without being protested by a bunch of liberals:blsmoke:..
If u really want Fytocell tho go for it. it would probably be cheaper than the mini cubes...
I found a few places that carry Fytocell in the USA. Dont know where u are at but from Cali to the midwest it goes for about $1 a liter shipped.. If u want to order Fyto, go to.... http://www.newagegardening.com/contactus.html and they have a list of USA dealers. Most of them don't carry Fyto anymore but three or four of the places listed have it or can get it. Sometimes u have to remind them that their distributor for Fytocell is newagegardening... alot of fucking morons work at hydro shops...
 
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deezbud

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CustomHydro said:
Ur running three strains that all finish at different times in the same tray? Doesn't that really fuck shit up? like timing out clones. If I used grodan mini cubes I would be broke. Plus I really do hate RW and I will never use it again alone as a medium no matter what form it is in. I hate chasing PH, and pre soaking a big brick of the shit in my bathtub is no fun either.
After plenty of research on Fytocell I realized it was very similar to perlite. The water to air ratios are very similar, the only real difference is Fytocell is environmentally friendly because it decomposes. Sorry enviro nuts, I believe that the big coorporations make money off of our landfills by dumping unneccessary garbage, and if they can dump millions of tons of garbage, I should be able to dump a square meter of perlite every month without being protested by a bunch of liberals:blsmoke:..
If u really want Fytocell tho go for it. it would probably be cheaper than the mini cubes...
I found a few places that carry Fytocell in the USA. Dont know where u are at but from Cali to the midwest it goes for about $1 a liter shipped.. If u want to order Fyto, go to.... http://www.newagegardening.com/contactus.html and they have a list of USA dealers. Most of them don't carry Fyto anymore but three or four of the places listed have it or can get it. Sometimes u have to remind them that their distributor for Fytocell is newagegardening... alot of fucking morons work at hydro shops...
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when i put my room together it was piece meal and the schedule on it isnt perfect. i have like 3 tables that are close to finish and a 4x4 full of new clones and more clones on the way. i may try the perlite these next ones cheap and readily available will be nice. although the last time i used perlite in my clone trays it had dirt in it so i suggest rinsing that too. heres a pic of it a week or two ago.
 

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grandpabear3

grandpabear3

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rw has a place in the room if it suits your needs, and they should be as follows:
only need 1 watering per day....2 absolute max and even then it can bite you in the ass.

or you need to slow the growth rate (it can help with stretching)

or you need to keep mothers. i will and always have used floc with my mums. but only 1/2 " across the bottom......oh no wait....lol that is for in flower if i use it, but i dont ....but if i did, thats how i would do it. lmfao im sooo high. lol


but the moms get about and inch and a half to two inches packed tightly across the bottom of their 6'' round pots then fill the rest of the way with hydroton and water once a day. in 2 weeks they need cutting by three.....look out for that tree!!!!!!!


lmao lololollollolollololololololololololol

i dont even remember what im posting about now. gonna go rub one out and go to bed.....nighty night bitches
 
grandpabear3

grandpabear3

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CustomHydro said:
Bugs I almost had a fire. Listen to this shit...
When my res would get lower due to flooding the table, the powerhead that mix's the nutes had it's nozzle pointed up and was shooting water out of the slit between the lid and the tub of the res and onto my el'cheapo power strip and digital timer. The water got inside of the digital timer and hit the perfect spot to complete the on circuit to make the pump run constantly and flood the table for 24 hours straight. By the time I found it, I could hear the power strip arching inside and it was super hot. Another 15 minutes w/o finding it and I'm in jail right now.
On another good note, I went to 90% perlite and 10% floc for all my current mothers and upcoming SOG plants. Hopefully I see huge improvements. RW floc was staying way too wet!! If I waited for that shit to dry enough for healthy roots I would only have to flood weekly. I don't know how Al did it flooding that shit daily. I cant get shit for a harvest with that stuff... For my first harvest I'm guessing I will get between an 1/8 and 1/4 for each plant. My second harvest will be about the same. After that I will be mainly growing Blueberry with some Snowdog on the outer edges for my personal, and I'll be using perlite so maybe I can make a half o per plant then. Its hard going from a small soil grow to this... Cant wait till I get better at controling everything...
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i switched from using perlite back to hydroton and am wondering ....why did i ever switch....fuckin al that is why.....god damned devil.....:cuss:

and i think im authorized to say it man.......wtf ru thinking with f'n power strips on the god damned floor....jesus man in a flood and drain room....you put electricity ......on the floor:wall::wall::wall:


ok, that's it........no more bong hits before going into the op for a week mister.:dunce:
 
grandpabear3

grandpabear3

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oh, and i never ever soak my rw floc in ph'd water....blablabla....my last mother i retired was 13.5 months old, never lost one. what a pain it would be to pre soak it all the time. i just stab at it with a clever until it's soft and fluffy like cotton candy then i throw a big handfull in tht pot and filler in. but , again....i only do this for the moms these days. tried em with no floc.....did not like the results at all so i went back and evwerything is perfect on the new ones
 
livesoul

livesoul

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Alright fellas, i royally fucked up! I missed a male in my flower room and that fucker pollinated my fems. I've got to start all over. Has this ever happened to you guys? I'm thinking i could use the seeds for the next grows right? Any thoughts on whether or not i should just finish flowering them?
 
GypsyBush

GypsyBush

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I wonder how much pollen will be in and around your room and how many crops it will pollinate...

Fuck... sorry dude...:o
 
Return of the Spork

Return of the Spork

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On those small guys I got bout .5oz per plant. 4.5oz total with 2oz of trim. I wont know what I yield off the larger plants until I harvest them. I am using 400W though, no 1k lights until I can move out of the cabinet and into a real room. So jealous of you guys and your full rooms, I can't wait to breed.

2oz of trim into 1lb of butter made some strong brownies. brownies themselves only use 3/4 cup which was just over half of what was left of the butter. 1/8th a pan sent me to freaking space, 1/16 is a perfect long bodybuzz that *might* just make you pass out for the best 3 hour nap ever. 1/16 completely FUCKED UP a girl with lower tolerance though. So I guess the normal dose would be 1/32 if a pan which means lots of happy people and that I just smoke too much lol.
 
grandpabear3

grandpabear3

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livesoul said:
Alright fellas, i royally fucked up! I missed a male in my flower room and that fucker pollinated my fems. I've got to start all over. Has this ever happened to you guys? I'm thinking i could use the seeds for the next grows right? Any thoughts on whether or not i should just finish flowering them?
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well dammit man. that is a problem indeed due to the nature of sog. remove the male kill it. let the girls finish flowering if you like the strain, cause now you will never have to order seed again. so if you like the strain keep em. harvest the seed and store it. when you harvest CLEAN EVERYTHING ....i mean sterilize the shit out of it. pollen is fuckin resilient. a shop vac with a bleach solution inside it will help out a lot. you will still get bud man so let em go......better than starting over completely.

this is kinda an unforgivable offense to the weed baron in me. i mean dammit man it's not like the plant wasnt screaming at you saying "HEY LOOKIT MA BAWLZ". you should have been less stoned and lazy and more dilligent.



sog is easy as al has stated and born for pure bread slackers but it is hydro and it requires attention to the plants .........shame on you, you owe your girls an apology for letting a cock in the henhouse.....now you've got a house full of pregnant tennagers. god help us all:eyesmoke:
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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10mm fan boy said:
Anyone else run a Power head in their res?

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Yep I do, it keeps the nutes mixed well. I guess u don't need to if u change ur res all the time, but I only change after 8 weeks (unless I fuck up) so I like mine mixed up well. How about air pumps? I don't use one of those but I am going to hook up an air hose on my powerhead venturi port as soon as my clones bulk up.

livesoul said:
Alright fellas, i royally fucked up! I missed a male in my flower room and that fucker pollinated my fems. I've got to start all over. Has this ever happened to you guys? I'm thinking i could use the seeds for the next grows right? Any thoughts on whether or not i should just finish flowering them?
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Those seeds are shot. Do not use them in ur SOG. They have hermie genetics and always will.

Return of the Spork said:
On those small guys I got bout .5oz per plant. 4.5oz total with 2oz of trim. I wont know what I yield off the larger plants until I harvest them. I am using 400W though, no 1k lights until I can move out of the cabinet and into a real room. So jealous of you guys and your full rooms, I can't wait to breed.

2oz of trim into 1lb of butter made some strong brownies. brownies themselves only use 3/4 cup which was just over half of what was left of the butter. 1/8th a pan sent me to freaking space, 1/16 is a perfect long bodybuzz that *might* just make you pass out for the best 3 hour nap ever. 1/16 completely FUCKED UP a girl with lower tolerance though. So I guess the normal dose would be 1/32 if a pan which means lots of happy people and that I just smoke too much lol.
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Its probably better to start small and get the grip on shit first. I am seriously overwhelmed, not as much as I first was but it is still a shit load of work for a rookie.
Anyways, about the butter. I have a couple tips 4 u. The best one I can give is Peanut butter cookies. Chocolate enhances the earthy taste, peanut butter hides it. I actually enjoy eating the peanut butter cookies, I have to choke down chocolate. Next one is to cook the cookies at 225F. They will come out alot stronger. THC dies at 220.
I agree with u on that bodybuzz/nap. It is the best feeling in the world. I ate over a dozen cookies (a 1/2 stick of butter) at the same strength urs were (4oz per 2lbs of butter) last weekend and slept for 35 out of 48 hours. Everytime I awoke I would eat a couple cookies and pass back out in an hour.
 
CustomHydro

CustomHydro

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Would anyone here join a SOG competition? Judged by grams per watt/per week. That way no matter what strain u grow u can win this. Let me know if u want in. I would ask that u update with pics and specs once or twice a week. Winner gets bragging rights and is crowned Bigest Fuct Head.
U all know I'm in, and I didnt even get 1/4oz per plant yet, so if these guys claimning an ounce arent in, we know what they are really harvesting, ahhemmm Bugs.
 
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