SoG Grow Room Discussion

sparat1k said:

do you think the copper tubing would oxidize in the site reservoirs?

im thinking of a way to rig up a daisy-chain chiller for multiple reservoirs. any ideas?

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yes the copper will Oxidize in water,
don't use it in the res that waters the plants
and don't daisy chain your chillers, this will cause you lots of problems
and will be much less efficient then if you run each chiller by it self
in you case its better to have few loops then one if it brakes

sparat1k said:

how's the humidity in the room?

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I'm still dialing things up with the room temps etc...
stay tunes it should be coming up shortly

LoudBlunts said:

im itching to put my window shaker in storage bro..... and order one of these king kongs!!!

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yes two 1/2 will do the job, and still use less power then an AC
my AC is on all the time with the 14k BTU heat pumping ,
figure about 3413 BTU of heat per 1000w
i have a 1/2hp commercial unit it will remove 6k BTU and will be perfect for 2 x 1000w
I'm under 50% of what i need to remove
if I'd know in advance what i know now
i who'd have gotten the 1.5hp or 2hp from the same line i use now
but i already have the 1/2 in place, it only uses around 600w

whats a moat?

robotninja said:

My last harvest with SSH went 75 Days in flower and she didn't like high levels of nutrients. So watch out for nutrient burn with this strain. I was running 1,000-1,300 ppm's (without Co2 so you should be able to raise it more).

SSH also likes to collect powder mildew, so the more fans the better

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Thanks robot, that's gold
i already found few black dots under two clones leaves
and what looks like a nuts burn on one leave in the group
I'm not sure if it came like that or i caused it, i mixed the nuts @2000 ppm no Co2 injection yet

how do you feel about liquid lumens compared to the system you are creating. pros & cons.

sparat1k said:

how do you feel about liquid lumens compared to the system you are creating. pros & cons.

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the reason i created my CoolBox system;
is to overcome what i think is flawed with the existing water cooled designs out there today

the first issue with all Water/Air Cooled systems out there ; is safety!
IE: water right next to power source and lighting etc...
then add potheads handling it

next issue is water inside the room
running lines to the room made no sense to me
it just to risky to work the system inside the grow room
beside for the safety reasons there's time and hard work invested
if a line brakes and shoots all over the plants, beside the flood in the room
you now ave burned plants

all the systems out there use one loop
if that one loop fails it will cause all other to fail with it

maintenance with some existing system is very delicate,
keeping algee and calcium build-up in control

implementation of any of today's Water/Air Cooled systems
is not an easy task, especially if you already have a venting setup going

if you look closely, you will find i have answered all of these issues and more with my G2G CoolBox Design

adding my CoolBox into an existing ongoing tube setup should be a breeze
everything is controlled in one location; out side with no water in the grow room!

SOG said:

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yes two 1/2 will do the job, and still use less power then an AC
my AC is on all the time with the 14k BTU heat pumping ,
figure about 3413 BTU of heat per 1000w
i have a 1/2hp commercial unit it will remove 6k BTU and will be perfect for 2 x 1000w
I'm under 50% of what i need to remove
if I'd know in advance what i know now
i who'd have gotten the 1.5hp or 2hp from the same line i use now
but i already have the 1/2 in place, it only uses around 600w

whats a moat?



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moat

and yea i feel you on the heat per 1000w

everything being in the lab, i've realized that my ballast alone puts of 3500 btu...FUCKING WOW

not to mention it sits right beside my window shaker.... soooo my 6500 btu window shaker is being offset from the 3500btu off the digi...not to mention the chiller in the lab too. However with all that said, i still maintain around 78-83F. BUT i want to and must tackle this next project

my next project after the icebox trials are getting a ballast enclosure box or something man. they have these tube/cyclinder little small table top oven looking enclosures that are watercooled (and you put the ballast in). I can barely find any info on them so i know they are new. scroll down last page to see

http://www.icehousedistribution.com/downloads/Stephen_Keen.pdf

Obviously you know your stuff, but doesnt 2000 ppm seem a bit high for young plants? Actually seems high even 4 mature flowering plants imo.

What line of nutes are you using for this top notch operation?

LoudBlunts said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moat

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you cracked me up with that Moat

i wouldn't bother with the enclosure, looks like a hard drive enclosure
leave a small fan blowing on them, or get them out the room

jberry said:

What line of nutes are you using for this top notch operation?

but doesnt 2000 ppm seem a bit high for young plants?

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thats the ppm mesurment called for my type of grow (Aero/NFT)

i'm useing Botanicare Nutrients

Sweet
Liquid Karma
Cal-Mag Plus
Pure Bend Pro Bloom
Pure Bend Pro Vegetative

how much did this cost you?

This is really too cool. It seems uneconomical to run an AC unit to cool the room when one could be using a 1-2HP water chiller at half the watts, with a large resorvoir. How many gallons is your chiller resovoir?

hwy420 said:

How many gallons is your chiller resovoir?

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I'm running a 1/2hp commercial with 100 gallon res,
my portable AC cannot handle this much heat
my AC rated @14k BTU cooling (12.5amp 1375watts 110v)
i don't care how good it is, still not enough with 4 x 1000w
i should be getting another 1/2hp shortly
ill run it with only 50 gallon, should be another story then

Holy crap, it took nine months to do that set up. Dude massive respect. Sorry to ask a question which has prob been repeated many many times (Dont have time to read all 143 pages >.<), but how much money (if ya dont mind saying) did that cost you?

dpjones said:

Holy crap, it took nine months to do that set up. Dude massive respect. Sorry to ask a question which has prob been repeated many many times (Dont have time to read all 143 pages >.<), but how much money (if ya dont mind saying) did that cost you?

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I think after a certain point... we dont keep track of what we spend.

If we need it, and can afford it.... we get it!

I think you can find his parts list and price it out for a total. One thing is for sure, and it's that it is a DREAM setup!

YaK said:

One thing is for sure, and it's that it is a DREAM setup!

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You can say that again. I'm so moving to Cali and doing my own. Better start saving =D

I guess people can make a living selling for medicinal purposes out there?

Sog,
for a 4'9"x4'9" growtent, is one 6" suntube w/ 1000w enough light? Or should I run two?
-Mitus

dpjones said:

you can say that again. I'm so moving to cali and doing my own. Better start saving =d

i guess people can make a living selling for medicinal purposes out there?

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yea better start saving cuz its really expensive to live here. Where i live the average old funky house cost well over $2000.00 a month to rent.
My water and power bill cost just as much.

But i'm just trying to talk people out of moving here lol

but it is true tho... Very expensive!!

Better be pretty confident with ur growin skills.

dpjones said:

You can say that again. I'm so moving to Cali and doing my own. Better start saving =D

I guess people can make a living selling for medicinal purposes out there?

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I'm on the east coast, and I just got some Hash that was green colored from Cali; It had the "Compassionate Use Act of 1996" packaging/label. It was so cool, and the first time I have ever gotten any hash. I think during the Bush Administration, there were like 200 federal raids per year on dispensaries, but when Obama got in office he told the attorney general to stop all raids on dispensaries.

So I believe the rest of the country will begin to see some legitimate products, and ganja from Cali will be more prominent. And if I had the money; I would've already moved to Cali myself. Sorry to hijack the thread for a sec, but i'm really relieved to hear Obama's position on the issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvUziSfMwAw

Oh, and even supports decriminalization as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQr9ezr8UeA&feature=channel

He even snickers away at the question and looks stoned at one point.

jberry said:

yea better start saving cuz its really expensive to live here. Where i live the average old funky house cost well over $2000.00 a month to rent.
My water and power bill cost just as much.

But i'm just trying to talk people out of moving here lol

but it is true tho... Very expensive!!

Better be pretty confident with ur growin skills.

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Ye I've read as much about costs. It would be many years from now, still doing a degree atm.

Cali or BC I think would be the dream.

How hard can it be right? Get a seed stick it in the soil and pow!! WEED BARON =D

(Sorry for the mini hijack)

Mitus said:

Sog,
for a 4'9"x4'9" growtent, is one 6" suntube w/ 1000w enough light? Or should I run two?
-Mitus

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that's more then sufficient for this size,
its a relatively a small tent for the 1000 watter's heat
i think you will be better with 2 x 600w with this size tent

I see... well i'm going to hit up the hydro store tomorrow and see if he'll let me exchange... wish me luck haha...

thanks a lot for the help bro

-Mitus

SOG said:

that's more then sufficient for this size,
its a relatively a small tent for the 1000 watter's heat
i think you will be better with 2 x 600w with this size tent

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SOG; You really are so good at what you do, do you have a son? Reason I ask is that i'm availible for adoptionwell actually i'm 23yrs old haha, but I could be a good apprentice; i'm dedicated, hard working. I've always wanted a father like you. Ehhh, maybe one day when I have a son, he will have better luck . You're awesome SOG, keep up the good work. TTYS