So Those People That Knock On Your Door

Ok step back and look at this WHOLE retarded back and forth bull shit for one second because this obviously isn't going anywhere. I did NOT come in here to troll, debate, argue, insult or piss people off. YOU are the only one that has taken offense to me offering the other side to the story/door. Sorry if you didn't like it but welcome to public forums man. I was offering the chance to talk about things and answer questions and what not because as a whole, people tend to misunderstand most door to door people. I know, I've been one So I come in here saying such things, you get yer panties in a bunch and start in with the personal attacks as such:

KlosetKing said:

Hahaha you'd punch me in the face would you? Whatever, go crawl under a rock with the rest of your JW friends. Btw, they WERE mormons, this is a fact. So now that you've jumped in, told me what it 'truly was' ,and then told me you'd punch me, you can crawl back under that rock with style.

I think you joined the wrong thread here man, no one is going to side with you except for Weed4Cash, and that's like saying you have the entire Special Olympics backing you up.

P.S. I whole heartedly invite you and your wife to come knock on my fuckin' door. Ill eye fuck her for a solid ten minutes, then shove a hot poker in your goddamn eye. Doesn't keep me out of anywhere, but explain that 'punch in the face' when you get to god for me.

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Did I whine and cry about how yer a asshole bigot against door knockers? Did I classify you and your "kind"? Nope, I have no clue what you and yours is like. All I know about you is that you have an issue with homophobic people and you like to eye fuck peoples wife. You also have an odd sense of knowing everything about everyone due to the fact that they are part of, or were part of, an organization. Awesome! You come up with these off the wall comebacks by piecing together things out of context to make your argument valid, which in turn makes it look like you have issues comprehending the things you read. But that could be just to get a reaction out of me, which would mean you sir are the original troll.

Which brings me to my next point of what a troll really means. A troll is someone that will come in here, post things with the intent to provoke people into whatever emotion they desire. Also, they post with intent to side track people into off topic subjects. For example, the title of this thread is "So those people that knock on your door ...." and the OP went on to say how he would like to drug them. And people went along to relate their experiences with them. To go along with that, I offered what the door to door people see as to the opposite side of that. Still on topic, different side of the SAME story. Me being homophobic has NOTHING to do with that topic whatsoever. But whatever, my point is, that is the offtopic issue here, you are and have been, posting from the beginning as a troll.

I came in here knowing I was prolly going to get some flack about it, but it comes with the territory of speaking your mind I guess, but to have you as the person that is trying to give me flack is just insulting. You constantly make mention of me being a part of this religion still and that I'm here to teach you may ways. That was never once said, nor does it hold any weigh because I will not ever "preach" again. I do like discussing things about the bible though, which is why I did say "I'll dust off my bible arguing skills" which I know you were going to bring up after the previous comment and still might due to your taking things out of context. I also love this comment right here to go along with my thoughts:

KlosetKing said:

Until then, i will troll you and your kind with the utmost diligence and persistence, and laugh at all of your feeble attempts to further your own religious agenda. And remember, that's exactly what it is, with every religion, an agenda.

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I didn't know that I came in here trying to push an agenda! Is that what people do that offer to answer any questions? Ohhh, my bad! I guess my feeble attempts of offering the other side was just wasted on your close minded and ignorant self.

I also love this comment:

KlosetKing said:

You and your kind hold this entire planet back. Your homophobic views keeps me, and plenty of other straight men at a distance. Times have changed dude, and i don't give a shit how your daddy treated you as a child or how hot your wife is, being intolerant in todays day and age is just pathetic, and your only being looked at worse and worse for it. Your a minority. Someday people will evolve passed their own fear of death and the unknown, they will wash their hands of all these children's stories we tell to keep people in fear, and we will actually make headway as a human species.

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Isn't that EXACTLY what you are doing now? Being intolerant of me for one. Door knockers for the second? Never once did I say I was still part of this organization, but yet you PERSIST on keeping to it. I do not belong or cling to any of these beliefs. I do know how they operate and how they are taught and what goes on at the doors they knock on though. But yer skull is too thick to understand this apparently.

Also, since when is being disgusted by something intolerant? I've said it before, yet AGAIN you missed it or chose to ignore it. You can be as gay as you want, just keep it away from me. That does NOT mean they have to be clairvoyant or intuitive or what have you. Again making shit up to make your own arguments. It does mean however, when you realize I'm not a fan of it, keep it to yourself. THAT is what this world is today. People have the freedom to do what they want and the flip side of that, people have the freedom to not like it and keep it away from them. I'm the backwards one eh?

All in all, you've turned what started out as an offering to further your understanding and knowledge about a group of people, into a side show of questioning beliefs and personal attacks of the sort. You've constantly misinterpreted comments to fit it around what you want to say. There is no REAL argument or discussion here. Yet you persist to the point of saying I'm the intolerant one and I'm a religious nut and came in here to push my agenda when you couldn't be further from the truth. It would seem, and I'm speculating here, that you are afraid of what's out there and are afraid to listen to people because you are afraid you could be wrong. That may frighten you or piss you off, but you constantly will remain this closed off, defensive asshole of a person for whatever the reason. And THAT is why this continues. Again this is speculation, wouldn't want you to freak out and call my a racist some how out of that though.

KlosetKing said:

Oh come on, dont pansy out now and try to be polite you homophobic nutbag. Klosethomo was soooooooo original!

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Me apologizing for a misunderstanding is being a pansy? again!!!!! I'M NOT HERE TO ARGUE NEVER WAS! The only reason I'm still posting here is to practice my typing, which is horrible, and to let you keep making a complete fool of yourself.

Wasn't calling you a pansy for apologizing, i was calling you a pansy for once again backtracking. Your homophobia keeps leaking out, (Klosethomo) and now your trying to save face (Mr. Kloset). Stop trying to twist my fucking words, you politicians and relig nutbags are all alike.Don't forget, YOU started the personal attacks. I was talking about making a woman uncomfortable, you told me you'd break my nose. YOU started it, HOW MANY TIMES do i have to point that out? Endless im sure, because none of this actually sinks in. Your too dense, just like the rest of your kind (ex-JW my ass). You cant just be in an 'ignorant phase'. Your just plain ignorant.

You did whine and cry about them, but just in a more subtle way. Instead, you came in and said 'they did it wrong, i would have been this much better about it" like it was your duty to save face for them. Still harboring some old feelings much?

"Isn't that EXACTLY what you are doing now? Being intolerant of me for one. Door knockers for the second?"

Fucking classic dude. Just like a true politician/spinster. "Your being intolerant of my intolerance!". Your right, my bad, I should learn to be more 'tolerant' of bigots and ignorant assholes. BTW, being 'disgusted' by homosexuals, is intolerant. You can try to mask this as one of those 'its just my opinion' games, but being disgusted my a homosexual for no reason other than them being a homosexual, is intolerant. FUCKING PERIOD.

You still deny that they need to be clairvoyant, yet you said in your FIRST ADMISSION:

"I am homophobic due to the fact that gay guys seem to think I'm gay as well, I guess it's my boyish features lol, but whatever. I've been hit on quite aggressively and it sends me into a panic attack of sorts, no clue why, but it just makes my skin crawl. I don't care if you are gay, that's your own business, just keep it away from me."

So how else will they know if your interested or not? It wasn't until later that you said 'oh well they can ask but they better leave if i say no'. Oh, but you wouldn't remember that would you. Of course not, you've been trained by the best! All you nutbags are the same, just keep spinning fucking words until people either get too tired to continue arguing or forget what the fucking argument was to begin with. Same reason why so many of you are running our government now. Fucking spinsters.It was NEVER an offering by you of understanding or knowledge.

You have NOTHING to teach me. You are so many generations behind the rest of us its absolutely insane. Its displayed by your bigotry, your word spinning and your ignorance. YOU are the one that is afraid of whats out there. Its the very reason behind your existence in this thread, its your very reason to unquestionably put your faith into something that you have absolutely no proof of. Keep replying i don't mind, because im not dumb, and i AM aware that many people will agree with both of us. In fact first thing you've said that i DON'T want to dispel is that this is a public forum, and your right to be here is very much real, i wont deny that. But i will shout you down with every opportunity i have, because your loopholes (or just plain holes) in logic just keep showing more and more. In the end i may just compile a fatty list of the things you've said, could be pretty good points for other religious people to take notes on. The Nation is wising up, and these religious antics wont last much longer.

Faith is dying, and science will rule the Earth.

Klosetking and slojo this shit has been going on for 6 pages. stfu.

On topic:

I have a friend(now mind you, this is a story you are reading ON THE INTERNET from someone saying his "friend" did it, so take it as you will. I will relay the events exactly as my friend told me, but I can't verify the authenticity at all.) who grew up in a town with lots of mormons, and was mormon when he was a kid but wasn't from the time he was about a teenager and always was kinda jaded against mormons because of it. They knocked on his door once, and he said "can you come back another time, I'm in the middle of sacrificing a goat". They left in a bit of a hurry. about two weeks later, he was at his friends' house who were from Turkey. They were having a huge feast due to one of their religiou holidays, that culminated in the sacrifice of a goat that is then cooked and eaten. The same two mormons showed up at the door when he answered, so he said "can you come back another time, we're sacrificing a goat right now". They didn't believe him as they had heard this one from him before, and they told him this. He then politely stepped aside to let them see through the house and out the sliding rear glass door, that, at that moment, there was indeed a goat getting its throat sliced wide open. This time they took off and RAN until they were out of sight. The police showed up 15 minutes later saying they heard something about a goat sacrifice. They had all the paperwork to show it was a legit religious ceremony, and the cops laughed at my buddy telling him they couldn't believe he pulled that shit on them.

This one, I can verify. We have what I will say is some sort of "confused church" in our neighborhood. They proselytize, saying we are from the baptist church, and hand out Watchtower pamphlets. There is no Kingdom Hall in our area. I'm not really sure if they know what kind of church they are. They came to the door when my wife was home, and saw that we have a little sign next to our door that says "neighborhood witch", but it's got the same design as those "neighborhood watch" signs. Once in the kitchen you can see that we have a few different pentacle decorations, and also that my wife was wearing a pentagram necklace. The guy took a look at her, looked at the signs, and said "Is that sign.. uhh... accurate?" She said yes, and he left and hasn't come back.

Honestly I wouldn't purposely be rude or give them any trouble, especially if it was Mormons who wanted me to help move furniture and shit. I like talking about religion. If it got to be too much and they were there for too long I would ask them to leave, and would become less friendly about it if they refused.

KlosetKing said:

Wasn't calling you a pansy for apologizing, i was calling you a pansy for once again backtracking. Your homophobia keeps leaking out, (Klosethomo) and now your trying to save face (Mr. Kloset). Stop trying to twist my fucking words, you politicians and relig nutbags are all alike.Don't forget, YOU started the personal attacks. I was talking about making a woman uncomfortable, you told me you'd break my nose. YOU started it, HOW MANY TIMES do i have to point that out? Endless im sure, because none of this actually sinks in. Your too dense, just like the rest of your kind (ex-JW my ass). You cant just be in an 'ignorant phase'. Your just plain ignorant.

You did whine and cry about them, but just in a more subtle way. Instead, you came in and said 'they did it wrong, i would have been this much better about it" like it was your duty to save face for them. Still harboring some old feelings much?

"Isn't that EXACTLY what you are doing now? Being intolerant of me for one. Door knockers for the second?"

Fucking classic dude. Just like a true politician/spinster. "Your being intolerant of my intolerance!". Your right, my bad, I should learn to be more 'tolerant' of bigots and ignorant assholes. BTW, being 'disgusted' by homosexuals, is intolerant. You can try to mask this as one of those 'its just my opinion' games, but being disgusted my a homosexual for no reason other than them being a homosexual, is intolerant. FUCKING PERIOD.

You still deny that they need to be clairvoyant, yet you said in your FIRST ADMISSION:

"I am homophobic due to the fact that gay guys seem to think I'm gay as well, I guess it's my boyish features lol, but whatever. I've been hit on quite aggressively and it sends me into a panic attack of sorts, no clue why, but it just makes my skin crawl. I don't care if you are gay, that's your own business, just keep it away from me."

So how else will they know if your interested or not? It wasn't until later that you said 'oh well they can ask but they better leave if i say no'. Oh, but you wouldn't remember that would you. Of course not, you've been trained by the best! All you nutbags are the same, just keep spinning fucking words until people either get too tired to continue arguing or forget what the fucking argument was to begin with. Same reason why so many of you are running our government now. Fucking spinsters.It was NEVER an offering by you of understanding or knowledge.

You have NOTHING to teach me. You are so many generations behind the rest of us its absolutely insane. Its displayed by your bigotry, your word spinning and your ignorance. YOU are the one that is afraid of whats out there. Its the very reason behind your existence in this thread, its your very reason to unquestionably put your faith into something that you have absolutely no proof of. Keep replying i don't mind, because im not dumb, and i AM aware that many people will agree with both of us. In fact first thing you've said that i DON'T want to dispel is that this is a public forum, and your right to be here is very much real, i wont deny that. But i will shout you down with every opportunity i have, because your loopholes (or just plain holes) in logic just keep showing more and more. In the end i may just compile a fatty list of the things you've said, could be pretty good points for other religious people to take notes on. The Nation is wising up, and these religious antics wont last much longer.

Faith is dying, and science will rule the Earth.

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Whatever man, keep saying the same shit over and over and over and over. Just read my previous comments as a rebuttal to EVERYTHING you just said ... again. If you have any questions for me, or would like to have a normal convo about the threads topic, I'm all ears.


EDIT: However I do love how you tried to spin what you are doing to the EXACT tee, onto me saying it is what I'm doing.

karri0n said:

Klosetking and slojo this shit has been going on for 6 pages. stfu.

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lol

Slojo69 said:

Whatever man, keep saying the same shit over and over and over and over. Just read my previous comments as a rebuttal to EVERYTHING you just said ... again. If you have any questions for me, or would like to have a normal convo about the threads topic, I'm all ears.

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LOL. Of course it repsonds to all of that, it was a reply to that dumbass. Your are the one going in circles, im repeating trying to get it through your skull. Your a damn fool son.

KlosetKing said:

LOL. Of course it repsonds to all of that, it was a reply to that dumbass. Your are the one going in circles, im repeating trying to get it through your skull. Your a damn fool son.

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I'm just tired of reading the same shit over and over. Then replying with the same shit over and over. You are accusing me of tons of assuming and theoretic ideas that you have against a group of people. And also, that I no longer am a part of.. And you are trying to get your ignorant and insulting blabber through my skull? And then proceed to call me a fool? Awesome! Show me where I was forcing my views onto people. Also show me where it's considered to be intolerant if the thought of 2 guy's getting it on make's me literally sick? The thought or Rosanne getting it on with Tom Arnold makes me sick too, but I guess that's just intolerant!

This is utterly ridiculous. Yet another thread gone to shit by a-hole comments and internet posturing. Nobody cares which of you "wins". If you want to go back and forth then take it to PM's but there's no extra points for making the rest of us watch it.

The goal of debate should be to find common ground. If both sides are starting at the same place, using valid logic, then they should reach similar conclusions. By debating, we can find where the opinions diverge and why. At no point should the goal be to win.

HuffPuppy said:

This is utterly ridiculous. Yet another thread gone to shit by a-hole comments and internet posturing. Nobody cares which of you "wins". If you want to go back and forth then take it to PM's but there's no extra points for making the rest of us watch it.

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We're not making you do anything

Heisenberg said:

The goal of debate should be to find common ground. If both sides are starting at the same place, using valid logic, then they should reach similar conclusions. By debating, we can find where the opinions diverge and why. At no point should the goal be to win.

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I honestly don't think there was any type of debate here at all. I would have liked it to go in that direction however ....

I was kinda entertained, but I also had nothing to do today. Either way...

I like to invite them in. Then I make some nice lemonade. Then we talk for a spell....and lo, they all fall asleep as if by a magic spell
(Ingredients for magic spell ; 3mgs Xanax for each glass of lemonade) Then when they all wake up they're dressed as mormons.
I don't get many solicitors at my house. You should see what I do to the Mormons.

Heisenberg said:

The goal of debate should be to find common ground. If both sides are starting at the same place, using valid logic, then they should reach similar conclusions. By debating, we can find where the opinions diverge and why. At no point should the goal be to win.

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Amen........

i always had the idea of inviting them in and start talking to dem about another religion and convert them to said religion how confused would they be

All I can say is wow..... I am a witness myself but if you answer the door I simply ask if you would like a 10 page handout and if you would like to know any information I would be happy to come sit with you another day if you like (that way I don't bother you on your wonderful Saturday) then if they don't look too thrilled to be talking to me I tell them to have a nice day and walk off. Not all witnesses are crazy and cram stuff down your throat. To openly say that you are completely rude to people or that you would like to drug someone or make sexual gestures to people that are just doing what they think is right is no way to carry yourself. This is honestly just a way to show that you are immature. But that's just my .02

P.S.- A lot more witnesses toke up then you think

TshirtNinja said:

All I can say is wow..... I am a witness myself but if you answer the door I simply ask if you would like a 10 page handout and if you would like to know any information I would be happy to come sit with you another day if you like (that way I don't bother you on your wonderful Saturday) then if they don't look too thrilled to be talking to me I tell them to have a nice day and walk off. Not all witnesses are crazy and cram stuff down your throat. To openly say that you are completely rude to people or that you would like to drug someone or make sexual gestures to people that are just doing what they think is right is no way to carry yourself. This is honestly just a way to show that you are immature. But that's just my .02

P.S.- A lot more witnesses toke up then you think

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witnesses tokin up ??? thanx - you just made my day so far .... I have no ill's with witnesses or any other religion but I dont agree with the whole door to door thing . If I ever made a " huge" change and decided to become religious ... it would be from my personal feelings , studies , and belief's guiding me to the religion that was right for me . If I changed my whole life and belief's because you knocked on my door ... I would surely be an easily lead sheep .... each to thier own but in reality - if they changed thier whole life because you handed them a pamplet , is that the type people you want in your life anyway ??

40 minutes or so later, after leaving your house, they'd probably think they were having "visions" of god's presence. Making them even more enthusiastic to tell you about god.

Jeffdt1966 said:

witnesses tokin up ??? thanx - you just made my day so far .... I have no ill's with witnesses or any other religion but I dont agree with the whole door to door thing . If I ever made a " huge" change and decided to become religious ... it would be from my personal feelings , studies , and belief's guiding me to the religion that was right for me . If I changed my whole life and belief's because you knocked on my door ... I would surely be an easily lead sheep .... each to thier own but in reality - if they changed thier whole life because you handed them a pamplet , is that the type people you want in your life anyway ??

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All of these religions are bs! Think about it, religions have been practiced for thousands of years, yet science can prove that "humans" have been here for millions of years. I might be ignorant to most but Evolution (science) can actually show you proof of how we have evolved. All I ask those people when they come to my door is, "show me proof." All religion is a belief...beliefs aren't accurate since everyone believes something different. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'd love to see what you religious people have to say...

TshirtNinja said:

All I can say is wow..... I am a witness myself but if you answer the door I simply ask if you would like a 10 page handout and if you would like to know any information I would be happy to come sit with you another day if you like (that way I don't bother you on your wonderful Saturday) then if they don't look too thrilled to be talking to me I tell them to have a nice day and walk off. Not all witnesses are crazy and cram stuff down your throat. To openly say that you are completely rude to people or that you would like to drug someone or make sexual gestures to people that are just doing what they think is right is no way to carry yourself. This is honestly just a way to show that you are immature. But that's just my .02

P.S.- A lot more witnesses toke up then you think

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I always wanted to ask why you guys don't celebrate Christmas or birthdays. Don't you like presents?

DelSlow said:

I always wanted to ask why you guys don't celebrate Christmas or birthdays. Don't you like presents?

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ha ha yes please answer that. And don't answer like the people at our doors that say, "you should celebrate each and every day as your birthday." lol