Smoke N Grow nutes versus Jack's Professional

kingofqueen

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Well if the site was up we could look at the ingrediants and compare:confused: . I just harvested my biggest healthiest plant to date and it got Jacks . Seems to me the most important thing is knowing how to grow and read your plants versus what nutes your using . I haven't used SNG so I can't comment there but I like how easy Jacks is ,just scoop out your dose and it has a good PH. Only def I've had was calcium and Lumi helped me out with that .

KQ
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riddleme

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Well if the site was up we could look at the ingrediants and compare:confused: . I just harvested my biggest healthiest plant to date and it got Jacks . Seems to me the most important thing is knowing how to grow and read your plants versus what nutes your using . I haven't used SNG so I can't comment there but I like how easy Jacks is ,just scoop out your dose and it has a good PH. Only def I've had was calcium and Lumi helped me out with that .

KQ
:peace:
Site is back up :)
 

riddleme

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Ok so the winner of "this stage" of the growoff was Jack's and I knew it would be, though I honestly had hoped the SNG would have won, I knew it prolly wouldn't because I kinda put the jinx in and by that I mean I deviated from my original intent.

The Dude actually designed a nute for me but it's veg counterpart was distorted, I have always said I prefer a 3-1-2 for veg and 2-1-3 for flower what fred sent me was a 2-1-3 and a 1-2-3 (speaking ratios here not values) so way back in veg I started using the 2-1-3 vs the jack's 2-1-2 seemed a bit more fair but I noticed that the Jack's plant was greener so I switched to his veg by week nutes, the Jack's plant remained a bit greener but not as much so. I then decided to try his by the week nutes instead of switching back to the 2-1-3 While these nutes work in soil they were designed for hydro (how Dude rolls) and had the high P thing goin on which you all know I disagree with,(this test did not change my mind) So by doing this I jinxed the potential for better results IMO. It is also very fair to state that yes I do know Jack's way better but I gotta tell ya that I have done some serious unreported experiments with the SNG nutes and I am truely impressed with the outcome and as I have said before will most definately add SNG to my arsenal of tools.

As to why I asked why,,,,,,it will always be true that chem nutes will beat organic nutes why because they (chem) are instantly available to the plant, so in reality that was a loaded question :) It is also the reason that one of my experiments was to combine the Jack's & SNG which I am currently doing with the hedgerow and as you will see in tomorrows update this is a nute match made in heaven, the combo is just simply incredible and I will share the best way once I see it (trying several different combos) In talking with Lumi about this we are both on the same page as to combining bringing the best results.

There will be a round 2 in this growoff as once I roll the next round into flower I will use the ratios Dude designed for me which of course IMO will do better, I will have 4 GDP's and 4 MB's so I will do one with SNG only, one with Jack's only and the rest combo (this with both strains) so something to look forward to as we move this thread along LOL

THE RESULTS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Jack's - 137 grams

SNG - 95 grams

THE PICS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Jack's on the left

SNG on the right

the jars are the baby popcorns and yes they included in the wieght


Stay tuned
 

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donni101

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Hey Rm3. I have been using cfls 2 42w and 2 27w in a corner
w foam board with mylar. I'm thinking there may be a nute lock or difficiency.
Some leaves losing green and have brown spots. My area estimately 18×36×12
with no fans I think the heat is a factor. I have no fans . They are kept pretty short
the lights are close alternating 42/27w within 3 to 6 inches above the canopy in the
4/5 in pots they were transplanted in about 2 weeks ago.

I'm using for nutes flora micro 1 tsp cns grow and ripe 1 tsp each I do often add a tsp
Mollases to .7 l water bottle when I subtracted it for a week no difference. My last
water I added a pinch of mg soluble to this since it worked good in veg in previous grows
to see if this will restore some of the green.
 

riddleme

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Hey Rm3. I have been using cfls 2 42w and 2 27w in a corner
w foam board with mylar. I'm thinking there may be a nute lock or difficiency.
Some leaves losing green and have brown spots. My area estimately 18×36×12
with no fans I think the heat is a factor. I have no fans . They are kept pretty short
the lights are close alternating 42/27w within 3 to 6 inches above the canopy in the
4/5 in pots they were transplanted in about 2 weeks ago.

I'm using for nutes flora micro 1 tsp cns grow and ripe 1 tsp each I do often add a tsp
Mollases to .7 l water bottle when I subtracted it for a week no difference. My last
water I added a pinch of mg soluble to this since it worked good in veg in previous grows
to see if this will restore some of the green.
Please post pics if you can or link to grow thread if you have one???

and you need a fan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

kingofqueen

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:leaf:Good to hear the results Riddle ! I understand the ratios wasn't coorect but thats a decent difference.
I just harvested my Medibud . It got Jacks in flower , 250w light yielded 62 grams .
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riddleme

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The very first STP ever grown is about to be chopped, can't wait to taste her as you can see she is a great yielder and the buds have that GDP smell which I am very happy about, I have a strong feeling she is gonna kick my ass into the next county LOL

I simply can't describe the proud papa feelins with my first strain showin off like this :)

The hedge row is all STP as well, popped 4 seeds got 4 females, that is kinda cool as well

But what you are also seeing in these pics is the results of the combo thing I was tellin ya about, using both Jack's & SNG I started doing this on the first STP and have continued it with the hedgerow, not often you see bic lighter sized buds after only 4 weeks of flower. This is why I was tellin you that this combo of nutes is a very cool match made in heaven (gives Dude a few things to think about)

also a pic of the next round hangin in the veg room, that big bush in the corner is my Tilders mom, the little girls under the lights are the monster cropping experiment and yes they are branching nicely and are ready to be upcanned, I pushed them on purpose to see how long they could go in the 4 inch peat pots :)

Enjoy!
 

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Bonzi Lighthouse

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Since nobody ever post in my thread I'll put my little bud porn here for you to enjoy.

I'm staggering my grow so I will have something to chop every week or so.

This one is #4 in line

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From one of her older siblings.
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Bonzi Lighthouse

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very nice! what strain is it?
It is a Next Generation New York Purple Diesel. No purple ever seen so it is def a Sour Diesel, smells like baby puke when first ground and has a strong Diesel taste when smoked. Very smooth and clean burning. Grown in FFOF with GO BT Grow and Bloom with GO Cal Mag+.

Here is her older sister:

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donni101

Member
Originally Posted by donni101
Hey Rm3. I have been using cfls 2 42w and 2 27w in a corner
w foam board with mylar. I'm thinking there may be a nute lock or difficiency.
Some leaves losing green and have brown spots. My area estimately 18×36×12
with no fans I think the heat is a factor. I have no fans . They are kept pretty short
the lights are close alternating 42/27w within 3 to 6 inches above the canopy in the
4/5 in pots they were transplanted in about 2 weeks ago.

I'm using for nutes flora micro 1 tsp cns grow and ripe 1 tsp each I do often add a tsp
Mollases to .7 l water bottle when I subtracted it for a week no difference. My last
water I added a pinch of mg soluble to this since it worked good in veg in previous grows
to see if this will restore some of the green.



Please post pics if you can or link to grow thread if you have one???

and you need a fan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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grndy49a.jpggrndy49c.jpgHere it is
 
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