should they be this small?

So I managed to germinate 18 out of 20 seeds I bought. I planted them in a seedling tray with dome and they were cool for a day or two, but then they started stretching towards the shitty light I bought from Home Depot like a moron, and got like 3 inches long. And then I had to store them at a friends house who didn't water them, and then 11 of them died. So now I have seven of them that survived the big drought of 2012. I wanted to get them out of the tray, so I planted them in pots that are too big, and now a few days later they seem to be doing okay. their color has come back, and they are pointing straight up, not to the side all droopy. here is a casual log of what went down.

Tuesday May 1 3:30pm

-seeds in shot glass

Wednesday may 2nd 11:30am-7:30pm


-put seeds in coco tray as they cracked. 9/10 Blueberry and 8/10 Oh God cracked.
-all buried in tray

Sat May 5

-1-2 inch sprouts

Sunday May 6

-assholes are stretching like mad, towards the 35w bulb i hung in the closet like an idiot.
-added 4x25w T8 hopefully this will help with stretching

Friday may 11
-transplanted from seedling tray and gave minor watering

Sunday may 13
-watered pots until runoff

Tuesday may 15
-not a hell of a lot bigger. been feeding water only and i think is time to start nutes
-still damp but feeling a bit dry buckets starting to feel halfway between just watered and light

I was thinking to start the nutes now, as it's been two weeks and some of the cotyledon leaves are turning yellow and look done. My main issue though, is why you reckon they are so small? I did have them in a room that went from mildy warm to pretty warm, and has low humidity. I just moved them to a smaller room today, and the temp is 75 with rh at 41. they just moved in there, so im hoping the rh will creep up. I have them under 4x25w bulbs in a two t8 fixtures side by side. I am going to hook up my 600W hps in there too, once I get the intake/exhaust done. They have been getting 24/0 for light.

These next two guys have yellow leaf tips, might that be cause they're hungry?


I'm not sure how much droop is drooping, how does this guy look?



And, I think this guy is okay.

Lookin good so far. they are fine, dont feed then that yellowing at the tip is nutrient burn, somewhere it go nutrients it shouldn't, She doesn't need nutes for atleast two weeks usually and you'll see fan leaves yellowing, not the tips or edges, Thats nute burn. Good luck, happy growing, stay high

you seem to have a good sense of humor...

so...

ya know... i kinda get mixed up when i see a thread that's titled "should they be this small"???

and i say to myself... hoping their breasts and not balls... LOL jk

but anyways on the serious side, it just looks like they are a little overwatered... and if they are... then that will stunt them... as you are "technically" flushing out their nutes that they would "normally" be getting had you used soil...

now if there was already nutes in the coco and you kept the seedlings too wet, you then... would be releasing those nutes too fast for the plants to metabolize...

so let it dry better... so the roots can have some more O2... the roots can then, start to grow and spread much faster, and allowing the amount of nutrient uptake ability increase, which in turn makes the plant grow faster...

Yep your golden if ya sit back and watch them do there thang for a week or 2. Lite watering and very lite or
no nuits for a couple weeks and they will rock.
If you can keep the light as close as ya can and get a fan blowing through the ladys a little your stretching
will work to your advantage later. The air flow will give them a thick and healthy stem to grow on.

Are ya planning on training or scrog or anything ?

Not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but hold off on the nutes.

Who the hell turned the like buttons back on?

Hilltop112 said:

Lookin good so far. they are fine, dont feed then that yellowing at the tip is nutrient burn, somewhere it go nutrients it shouldn't, She doesn't need nutes for atleast two weeks usually and you'll see fan leaves yellowing, not the tips or edges, Thats nute burn. Good luck, happy growing, stay high

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hmm, I used canna coco, and was spraying with rhizotonic for the first week or so from seed. That is the only place I could imagine it getting nutes from.

cannofbliss said:

you seem to have a good sense of humor...
so...
ya know... i kinda get mixed up when i see a thread that's titled "should they be this small"???
and i say to myself... hoping their breasts and not balls... LOL jk
but anyways on the serious side, it just looks like they are a little overwatered... and if they are... then that will stunt them... as you are "technically" flushing out their nutes that they would "normally" be getting had you used soil...
now if there was already nutes in the coco and you kept the seedlings too wet, you then... would be releasing those nutes too fast for the plants to metabolize...
so let it dry better... so the roots can have some more O2... the roots can then, start to grow and spread much faster, and allowing the amount of nutrient uptake ability increase, which in turn makes the plant grow faster...

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yeps420 said:

Yep your golden if ya sit back and watch them do there thang for a week or 2. Lite watering and very lite or
no nuits for a couple weeks and they will rock.
If you can keep the light as close as ya can and get a fan blowing through the ladys a little your stretching
will work to your advantage later. The air flow will give them a thick and healthy stem to grow on.

Are ya planning on training or scrog or anything ?

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over watered could be a possibility, although I am using 100% coco and I thought it was inert. so it should have no nutes, and the only only watering I have given them is the rhizotonic spray, then they dried out for a while, I mean dried out as in 11 dried and got crispy. once I brought them back up here, I replanted them, after i filled the pots with coco, and watered until runoff. i planted them 60 min after watering the pots.

no scrog or anything for these guys, it's my first grow so I am waiting for my landlord to come to the yearly lease renewal and then I'm was going to flower these 7 guys, and 20 cheese clones I have coming. I wasn't going to use clones, I didn't want to introduce any pests on my first, but now that I lost 11 , I kind of have no choice. I'll going to put the 20 clones under my 600w and turn 12/12 with 20 clones + 11 seedlings under one light.

last watering was sunday, the buckets feel just under halfway full......I was thinking to water today, maybe not until runoff though. what do y'all think? as for starting nutes 2 weeks in, 2 weeks into what? the seeds cracked pretty much two weeks ago. Thx for all of your help/replies! I didn't get any to my last thread, and it made me sad lol, as every question I used to google brpught me here, so I decided just to stay and use the forum search!

yeh hold of on nutes,,and dont water for about 4-6 days, only nutesid add at a young age is canna start but ther to young for that

Well right now they are overwatered...a plant will look all droopy and yellowed when it is overwatered even like from day to day...so just don't water at all til the pot feels light...even in coco...I have recently started using it...I would also recommend that when you rinse out another batch of coco to get it ready to use just add in some perlite...it helps to aerate the coco and helps it to dry faster, and really makes it hard to overwater...not impossible, but hard.

I add a few drops of coco A+B and just add more drops as the plants get larger...I thought my soil plants looked good, but I did a test clone in the coco first, and it is flowering and just looks awesome...I think I might just flower tiny plants from now on...so much easier...

ya know...I might even try to do a coco 12/12 from seed and just shut down the veg tent...I have turned the one strain I want to keep back to seeds...so I think I will...Maybe...We'll see...

IC3M4L3 said:

yeh hold of on nutes,,and dont water for about 4-6 days, only nutesid add at a young age is canna start but ther to young for that

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so by that estimation, I'm looking at Sun or Monday ballpark. hmm, will that be okay with such a low rh in there? or do they look big enough to get their own water from the soil?

missnu said:

Well right now they are overwatered...a plant will look all droopy and yellowed when it is overwatered even like from day to day...so just don't water at all til the pot feels light...even in coco...I have recently started using it...I would also recommend that when you rinse out another batch of coco to get it ready to use just add in some perlite...it helps to aerate the coco and helps it to dry faster, and really makes it hard to overwater...not impossible, but hard.

I add a few drops of coco A+B and just add more drops as the plants get larger...I thought my soil plants looked good, but I did a test clone in the coco first, and it is flowering and just looks awesome...I think I might just flower tiny plants from now on...so much easier...

ya know...I might even try to do a coco 12/12 from seed and just shut down the veg tent...I have turned the one strain I want to keep back to seeds...so I think I will...Maybe...We'll see...

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pot feels about half full, I'll hold off for a bit as per both suggestions. I think for the clones i will add some perlite to my coco, maybe 25% or so. umm, by rinse out, did you mean what i did with filling the pots, then watering them to runoff, or something more thorough? and what is this coco A+B you speak of? I bought some miracle grow all purpose "12-8-4 so 50% strength is 6-4-2 , which is about the same as full strength Fox Farm's Grow Big (6-4-4) so it should work for vegging." I was going to start feeding with that at 1/4 strength to start.

12/12 from seed in coco is my plan for the foreseeable future, once my light is up and running. I'll keep updating this thread as sort of a log on how it goes. ^^

temp is 81 rh is 39. i guess that's okay from some stuff I have read. although grow books etc recommend a bit higher.