Should the US support Israel forever ?

Should the US support Israel, no matter what?


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Harrekin

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your misunderstanding is on a basic level.

Oil is NOT energy.

oil is the building blocks of industry, the "energy" component is a byproduct which currently doesnt even cover the refinery's operating expenses.
gasoline, fuel oil, propane, etc. merely defray the costs, the rest of the expenses and all the profits come from the OTHER shit in the oil which is much more valuable and desirable.

cars run on gasoline for several interdependent reasons:

1: when cars were being developed, gasoline was super fucking cheap. oil refineries dumped that shit into a pit and burnt it off. it was JUNK, thus super cheap.
2: the oil industry is now heavily dependent on automobiles as their mobile waste disposal system, and a minor source of cash flow.
3: the alternative fuels are still more expensive than buying the oil industry's refuse (and they intend to keep it that way)
4: the oil industry has manipulated regulations to ensure that cars will continue to be a ready consumer of their waste by-products, so they dont have to pay to haul it away.
5: if oil refining technology makes a great leap forward, and fuel products becomes a much smaller fraction, or is eliminated as a waste by-product it will no longer be produced and sold as fuel, unless the price becomes astronomical. if they could produce all good stuff and zero "fuel" from a barrel of oil they damned sure would.
6: when fuel prices rise to a level where sacrificing some of the middle weight fractions to produce gasoline or fuel oil becomes profitable, the mutton heads bleat and cry about "gouging"
7: when fuel prices drop and gasoline production is scaled back in favour of more profitable fractions, the muttonheads bleat and cry about "price fixing"
8: the oil industry handles all the money in the world, every dollar, rupee, ruble, drachma, lira, frank, euro, pfennig, pound, and dong in existence, every 7 years or so, and they get to keep about 6-12% of it. thats not too shabby.
9:they dont give a fuck if you think they are assholes, you need them, and they are making a good return on their investments. without the oil industry, civilization would collapse.
10: all they want from you is a steady profit, and for you to keep using their waste products as fuel. since they are the only game in town, if you dont like it, you can pound sand.
your misunderstanding is on a basic level.

Oil is NOT energy.

oil is the building blocks of industry, the "energy" component is a byproduct which currently doesnt even cover the refinery's operating expenses.
gasoline, fuel oil, propane, etc. merely defray the costs, the rest of the expenses and all the profits come from the OTHER shit in the oil which is much more valuable and desirable.

cars run on gasoline for several interdependent reasons:

1: when cars were being developed, gasoline was super fucking cheap. oil refineries dumped that shit into a pit and burnt it off. it was JUNK, thus super cheap.
2: the oil industry is now heavily dependent on automobiles as their mobile waste disposal system, and a minor source of cash flow.
3: the alternative fuels are still more expensive than buying the oil industry's refuse (and they intend to keep it that way)
4: the oil industry has manipulated regulations to ensure that cars will continue to be a ready consumer of their waste by-products, so they dont have to pay to haul it away.
5: if oil refining technology makes a great leap forward, and fuel products becomes a much smaller fraction, or is eliminated as a waste by-product it will no longer be produced and sold as fuel, unless the price becomes astronomical. if they could produce all good stuff and zero "fuel" from a barrel of oil they damned sure would.
6: when fuel prices rise to a level where sacrificing some of the middle weight fractions to produce gasoline or fuel oil becomes profitable, the mutton heads bleat and cry about "gouging"
7: when fuel prices drop and gasoline production is scaled back in favour of more profitable fractions, the muttonheads bleat and cry about "price fixing"
8: the oil industry handles all the money in the world, every dollar, rupee, ruble, drachma, lira, frank, euro, pfennig, pound, and dong in existence, every 7 years or so, and they get to keep about 6-12% of it. thats not too shabby.
9:they dont give a fuck if you think they are assholes, you need them, and they are making a good return on their investments. without the oil industry, civilization would collapse.
10: all they want from you is a steady profit, and for you to keep using their waste products as fuel. since they are the only game in town, if you dont like it, you can pound sand.
So fucking dumb.

Keep repeating that, someone might believe you.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
So fucking dumb.

Keep repeating that, someone might believe you.
your statement takes no substantive position, but the only possible conclusion that can be drawn is that you feel i am 100% wrong , therefore:

oil is extracted and refined for specifically for Gasoline, everything else is a by-product.

if refineries could figure out a way to do it, they would eliminate the industrial and pharmaceutical feedstocks, as well as plastics so they could concentrate on the super profitable "fuel and energy" components

when the US refines oil we do it because Big Oil hates america, and money. their real goal is to undermine america, to support the ancient and noble chinese culture, which is sweeping across the world like a tsunami of righteous virtue!
China Strong! You Cannot Succeed! Make Your Time!

cars actually run on gasoline because it is the best fuel source ever devised, and all the "alternative fuels" are dangerous, explosive, inefficient, and controlled by evil multi-national corporations

Big Oil is secretly run by 7 foot tall lizard aliens, and they dont produce fuel from oil, it is made by concentrating and refining children's screams! (the lizard aliens are also jews...)
 

Harrekin

Well-Known Member
your statement takes no substantive position, but the only possible conclusion that can be drawn is that you feel i am 100% wrong , therefore:

oil is extracted and refined for specifically for Gasoline, everything else is a by-product.

if refineries could figure out a way to do it, they would eliminate the industrial and pharmaceutical feedstocks, as well as plastics so they could concentrate on the super profitable "fuel and energy" components

when the US refines oil we do it because Big Oil hates america, and money. their real goal is to undermine america, to support the ancient and noble chinese culture, which is sweeping across the world like a tsunami of righteous virtue!
China Strong! You Cannot Succeed! Make Your Time!

cars actually run on gasoline because it is the best fuel source ever devised, and all the "alternative fuels" are dangerous, explosive, inefficient, and controlled by evil multi-national corporations

Big Oil is secretly run by 7 foot tall lizard aliens, and they dont produce fuel from oil, it is made by concentrating and refining children's screams! (the lizard aliens are also jews...)
Gasoline, diesel and kerosine pretty much are the highest density transportable fuel.

Without them the world falls apart.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Gasoline, diesel and kerosine pretty much are the highest density transportable fuel.

Without them the world falls apart.
and each one can be readily replaced with a non-petroleum substitute, which in some cases is superior.

for example, Methyl alcohol is a better fuel than gasoline, and could be produced more cheaply than gasoline, if the regulations and laws permitted it.

diesel can be replaced with Rape Oil (Pada incoming in 5... 4... 3... 2... ) hemp oil, and other vegetable oil products, many of which are not food at all.
 

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
and each one can be readily replaced with a non-petroleum substitute, which in some cases is superior.

for example, Methyl alcohol is a better fuel than gasoline, and could be produced more cheaply than gasoline, if the regulations and laws permitted it.

diesel can be replaced with Rape Oil (Pada incoming in 5... 4... 3... 2... ) hemp oil, and other vegetable oil products, many of which are not food at all.
You call me a rapist because of false claims made by Clayton, you essentially jumped on the bandwagon or unsubstantiated retardation. I then proved Clayton himself was a rapist, and expunged his actuations, as well as embarrassed the fuck out of him so bad he hasn't mentioned rape in the same post as me since, nor has he returned or said a single thing about me. The proof speaks for itself.

Feel free to group yourself in that category with him all you want, I'll embarrass your retarded ass just as much, not like it's needed, you embarrass yourself with each post!

You think you're some complete expert on everything, it's hilarious, especially considering your credentials, or lack thereof.

You think you're some intellectual powerhouse, nobody on RIU or in the real world takes you seriously except the demonstrably racist, egocentric, white senior citizens who surprisingly know how to type on a keyboard. Your target audience is just like FOX news, 68 and older! They'll be dead and/or irrelevant in 2 years. Then where will your grasping ass be?

It's a young mans game Kynesey, you simply can't hang. I'll be here for 40-60 years, you'll be gone in a couple decades. You had your chance to change things, you failed. Deal with it. Deal with my generations reign. Deal with the reign of the progressive. I love how much you hate it!

You'll be gone, I'll be here. How does that make you feel? You'll be deep in the ground, I'll still be making decisions! You'll be long forgotten, I'll have an active voice. HAHAHA!

Fuckin' deal with it, bitch. Your legacy will last as long as you're alive and your bullshit will die with your old, sad, decrepit, alone ass. Does that feel good? Do you like knowing that? I bet you don't! Your legacy means exactly shit. Your entire life means shit. YOU are SHIT.

DEAL WITH IT, BITCH.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
You call me a rapist because of false claims made by Clayton, you essentially jumped on the bandwagon or unsubstantiated retardation. I then proved Clayton himself was a rapist, and expunged his actuations, as well as embarrassed the fuck out of him so bad he hasn't mentioned rape in the same post as me since, nor has he returned or said a single thing about me. The proof speaks for itself.

Feel free to group yourself in that category with him all you want, I'll embarrass your retarded ass just as much, not like it's needed, you embarrass yourself with each post!

You think you're some complete expert on everything, it's hilarious, especially considering your credentials, or lack thereof.

You think you're some intellectual powerhouse, nobody on RIU or in the real world takes you seriously except the demonstrably racist, egocentric, white senior citizens who surprisingly know how to type on a keyboard. Your target audience is just like FOX news, 68 and older! They'll be dead and/or irrelevant in 2 years. Then where will your grasping ass be?

It's a young mans game Kynesey, you simply can't hang. I'll be here for 40-60 years, you'll be gone in a couple decades. You had your chance to change things, you failed. Deal with it. Deal with my generations reign. Deal with the reign of the progressive. I love how much you hate it!

You'll be gone, I'll be here. How does that make you feel? You'll be deep in the ground, I'll still be making decisions! You'll be long forgotten, I'll have an active voice. HAHAHA!

Fuckin' deal with it, bitch. Your legacy will last as long as you're alive and your bullshit will die with your old, sad, decrepit, alone ass. Does that feel good? Do you like knowing that? I bet you don't! Your legacy means exactly shit. Your entire life means shit. YOU are SHIT.

DEAL WITH IT, BITCH.


yeah, he mad as fuck bro.

if you wanted this butthurt to remain a secret, you would have ignored my summons, but the call was too powerful.



your soul is now mine to command, sadly, you are basically useless.

i wouldnt even count on you to scrub my chamberpot, so i cast you back into the depths.

i may allow my apprentices to summon you as a part of their training, as you are a harmless imp. all mouth with no fang.

your wrath is impotent, and quite amusing.

 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Exactly as predicted, a stone cold baby back bitch with nothing more to say.

Welcome to my age, bitch. Get used to it!
yep, you done lost your mind.

im betting you got too much Rape in your diet.

you didnt argue the facts, you disnt dispute my assertions, you flew into a tantrum, because i made a Rape Joke, and youre too stupid to google it.

your lengthy screed extolling the "wisdom" of the Twatter Generation was laughable.

you should do that more often, it's comedy gold.

nobody will EVER turn to the Twatter generation for wisdom, sage advice, or sound judgement. your entire generation, just like that of the hippies, is a lost cause.

your generation may eventually sieze the reigns of power, but only after every previous generation has died off, and only until your children wrest it from your feeble grasp because you are INCOMPETENT.

you have no deep thoughts, no philosophy, no literature, and no education.

you are weak minded parasites feasting on the corpses of your grandparents, and drooling at the prospect of your parent's demise when you will finally get that meager inheritance which will allow you to start up your Blog, or acquire the latest new iGadget.
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
kkkynes' generation is defendinding the REAL America from the multicultural wasteland of bullshit...
somebody has to take a stand against turdburglars like you who think serfdom and slavery were "Voluntary", since that's the only way to make your crypto-marxist narrative work.
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
The Wall Street Journal reported today that the White House is finally reviewing the status of the unlimited resupply of weapons and ammunition to Israel during it's conflict in Gaza. Apparently, the last shipment was not approved by either the State Department, or the White House. Of course, this has not gone over well in Israel, with a supposedly terse conversation between Netanyahu and Obama on Wednesday. This review was a result of the White Houses stated disgust over the amount of civilian causalities in Gaza. It's about time that someone woke the fuck up in Washington, although the puppets, including Hillary who has come out with her full support as to the Gaza invasion (she need's the cash), unfortunately will be calling for Obama's head over this one. At least someone has a moral compass in DC, it seems. Nice
 

Dr Kynes

Well-Known Member
Yeah, who wants to be taken seriously anyway, right kynes?
it is obvious you have no desire to be taken seriously, as you repeatedly try to redefine slavery as "volunteerism", insist that well understood and often used words are imaginary, despite their presence in every dictionary, and your inability to read anything from Orwell printed after his breif infatuation with marxism and bolshevism.


you cast ad hominems and derision at anyone who states a concrete position, while cloaking your own stance in chompskyite word salad and evasions.

in all the world, nobody is taken less seriously than you, except possibly Barry Seotoro

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Harrekin

Well-Known Member
it is obvious you have no desire to be taken seriously, as you repeatedly try to redefine slavery as "volunteerism", insist that well understood and often used words are imaginary, despite their presence in every dictionary, and your inability to read anything from Orwell printed after his breif infatuation with marxism and bolshevism.


you cast ad hominems and derision at anyone who states a concrete position, while cloaking your own stance in chompskyite word salad and evasions.

in all the world, nobody is taken less seriously than you, except possibly Barry Seotoro

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That pic is GOLD.

I've added it to my arsenal now...expect it to be used more often.
 
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